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^^Nice article, keeps the hopes alive. The best thing I like about him is that he still enjoys racing GP machines. When Stoner said he doesn't enjoy it, it made perfect sense to me for him to retire. No point in doing something you don't enjoy, even if your on top of your game. Just like Colin, even though he never knows when he can step on the top of the podium, still continues to push cos he likes it.
Even when people used to say Sachin should retire, I just felt it was stupid for people to say that. He would play and I'm sure he did till he enjoyed it.

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never said that mate.. all i said is to win any title one needs to have a few other things lined up in his favour apart from just riding it to win. for instance, not getting seriously injured despite pushing all the time..or some main rival a bit out of form/injured, or no consistently competitive and equivalent rival, bike more or less working well (certainly no serious issue except maybe very rarely) almost every race..things like that..i clearly said the main thing is always one's own riding no matter what and winning is winning after all, but nevertheless, other things that are usually not in your hand also some/many times need to be in your favour.

all those other things not really in your hand but that are still important i termed as luck. my post was clear i believe that by "luck" i didnt mean some magical aligning of all things or something that meant or implied he didnt really have what it takes to be a multiple champion but it all happened by sheer luck.. of course not.

this holds for everyone. including rossi. just like stoner had some things, not really in his control, working in his favour in 2007 and 2011, lorenzo in 2010, 2012, marquez in 2013..such things are just not primary but generally important factors that can at times be very important as well, in addition to the main and most important thing that makes them what they are - their own racing talents/skill/consistency/etc..if they dont have the latter, if they dont have what it takes, none of those other additional favouring factors would make them winners and champions.



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cheers, that is precisely what gets to me as well..happens mostly with rossi fanboys of course, coz they are everywhere all the time () but also even when some really really blind and diehard fanboys of my own favorite rider (99) do that...there are several diehard 27 and 99 fans who just can't appreciate anything rossi does and that annoys me as well..

but like i said, it's mostly with rossi fanboys (am just a fan), because they are everywhere and a lot of them (probably not the ones in this forum) always have to demean some other rider (obviously lorenzo and stoner) no matter what. guess thats why in defense there are a bunch of 27 and 99 diehards as well who just deny to ever appreciate rossi, lol..

now there's also marquez' blind diehards (to deal with in the internet once in a while :P)

whatever, thats always going to be the case..it's the nature of people..luckily such shit doesnt seem to happen here (or is in control) even though it's quite an active thread (as i have remarked before)..am relatively new here so that has taken me a bit by surprise..i expected unreasonably blind diehards (of any rider, but certainly of rossi) to be here too. ;-)

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meanwhile, some good articles -

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/ra...-wooden-spoon/ :P





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only the rear...all this year all the riders complained of the harder option rear tyre not working well at all. (except in one race, either indy or silverstone, cant remember which one. there they all preferred the harder rear as it gave them performance and credibility during the FPs). - http://www.motomatters.com/news/2013...p_2013_vs.html

actually, if i am not confusing things up, rossi never really complained of the front tyres..his front end issues seem to have more to do with how the chassis is (not) taking his preferred ultra late braking, things i believe more to do with suspension and fork settings..guess changing something in the front tyre construction should also help in principle, but dont really recall him complaining of that. in any case, hard fronts have been used by other riders in many races this season and they have worked up to performance so far for i guess most of them most of the times. so no one's really complaining of it.

as for using the 2014 bike, as far as i have read in all these articles, so far yamaha or the two riders have not said anything about using the 2014 bike for the remaining races this year (it's allowed to do that in general of course, if they want. last year since brno repsol riders were riding the 2013 rcv)..for the present 2013 bike, the main things that they tested were the new harder rear and larger brembo discs only for the purpose of using them at motegi as FIM has allowed usage of much stronger brakes/larger discs for the extreme braking demanding motegi.

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+1..total truth, couldn't agree more.

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Actually , u did say that he lacked earlier competition. . But I feel previous riders were more, ready for battle rather than taking the best lines.
I sometimes watched SBK races. To see Max vs Melandri. Some passes by melandri were just strong and aggressive.
It used to be a tough battle, before too. But things have changed, so cant really compare..(or maybe can, some PhDs might I wouldnt know, never Rode a bike )

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:P i said earlier his competition was not as strong as it became when stoner and lorenzo came..earlier no one, not even biaggi, was a consistent threat to rossi..at least i still believe pre-2006 rossi was the only "alien" on the grid...only he was so consistent in his performance, while biaggi and sete had their good days and bad days fluctuations all too often..since 2007, that wasnt the case..

i didnt say that he "lacked" competition in absolute terms in the pre-2006 era..it was just relative to post-2006.

hell, even rossi sometime this year when asked admitted to the fact that in his old days (biaggi-sete etc times) competition wasnt as much demanding as opposed to some of these later competitors whose consistency and speed was overwhelming...he also of course said that it was all quite different in the biaggi-sete days..racers were less disciplined about training (), less athletic perfectionism, people made many more mistakes and bikes were not as near perfect as today tech-wise and so the racing was more fun..all of which is of course true to a large extent.

what i love most about rossi is the fact that he is an old school dude who is all about bikes and racing and having fun..

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Yup u are spot-on about consistency. maybe I didnt understand too much, I was just focusing on the "luck content"

10 days to race day. Lots of more argument , conspiracies to come. Scary

--Peace--

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Can someone please define what fanboy is?

There are many who like/support Rossi but, I don't see "fanboys" (with biased opinions) here. So, let's stop shadow boxing.



Would have wet my leathers if, I were to be Dovi! Watch how he manages the wheelie and the tank slapper at Mugello -

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Woah how did we miss it during the race? That was scary and that too on a gp machine.

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So, Dovi is pushing hard!

Repsol Honda had 3 riders for 2011 - Stoner, Dovi and Ped. Dovi scored 228 against Pedrosa's 218, not much of difference but, he gets axed - can't run 3 machines and Repsol backs Pedrosa. He jumped on a satellite M1 and scored a superb 218 last year! None have got more points for Tech3 than him in a season.

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Urban Dictionary: fanboy

this definition to be taken a bit lightly and with varying degrees of a pinch of salt

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and that too on that crash-and-throw ducati desmo

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...and he again get's axed..or in this case gets himself axed to Ducati

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I bet I was more interested in Rossi-Bautista crash

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@Makky: thats good clip tho...
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Honda were in a pickle there aint it.. They wanted Stoner and they had to have a Spanish rider.
I think they did offer him a Sattelite ride(dunno for sure, but there was some article).
Even at Yamaha , he would have got a factory ride, if not for Rossi's move.
One of the example of wrong place wrong time...

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Dorna and its broadcasting arm is heavily biased. They just want to show the fast riders aboard faster machine. Too bad that we miss a lot of action in the background.

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No, Dovi wanted a factory ride. Rossi left Ducati allowing him to move there. In fact, even Cal had thought about it too. Cal mentioned he 'deserved' that seat more than Dovi a few months ago!

Tech3 signed Smith only after that.

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AB Cardion Racing is looking for a replacement - Karel Abraham needs an op and going to miss rest of the season.

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some entertaining videos from

MotoGP
the last one in the video is rossi's half brother.

A Sideways Glance at Misano - YouTube

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eugene laverty wants to ride in motogp, preferably with aprilia...that'd be nice, he's probably my favorite rider in wsbk at the moment..

on the other hand, albeit a bit old rumour, sam lowes seeing options for a competitive ride in moto2...that'd be very nice as well, he's my favorite wss rider and a rider that interests me in particular because finally someone is beating kenan sufouglu decisively while riding an inferior bike...however, he may not be able to switch from wss to moto2 so easily this year, as his contract with yakhnich motorsport yamaha exists also for 2014...his original contract that was signed upon last year had 2 year deal 2013-14 in wss with yakhnikh motorsport yamaha to take the wss titles and then advance to wsbk in 2015 with even more backing from yamaha EU and likely also factory yamaha support to mark the factory's return to wsbk.

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I think probably he wont be riding a Yamaha when he gets promoted to WSBK he tested MV Augusta bike and Yakhnich Motorsports considering MV Augusta factory supported machine over the Yamaha....

Dovi's riding style immediately suited Yamaha he is a late breaker and carries much corner speed so he got adopted to Yamaha easily. He was seriously considered for a Factory Yamaha ride but Rossi's move made it difficult for Dovi :/ rightly said [MENTION=11456]Braumabull[/MENTION] "One of the example of wrong place wrong time"