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Do I need to defend my self in this case , cos I'm one of those desperately praying for another title. But is it wrong to hope for so much? Rossi is old, not fast enough, past his prime, against more talented riders..so what, does it stop us for cheering him even if he finishes last. No it doesn't. Rossi is more than just 9 world titles to his fan boys. he's not the best but he's still the biggest reason for me to follow GP racing. Lorenzo wins, congratulations. Rossi 4th..yeah we love you Rossi, c'mon we need the title back..
I don't know why anyone would have problems with that.

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guys, don't you think that the discussion about rossi is going round and round in circles ...around the same point.

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yeah it is, and it keeps hitting the same place without any reason. OK so I won't defend anyone(unless it hurts too much) and lets get on with what this thread is about - MotoGP.

I've got a set of news, courtesy Motorcyclenews.com

Rossi impressed with 2014 M1 - “I am very happy about the test. We did a lot of interesting things and I like the new bike. It has some difference in the engine to make it a bit faster and some difference in the chassis with the weight distribution and I like it a lot. At the beginning the feeling was a little bit strange but I make my best lap with the new bike and this is positive. It has better traction in acceleration and a better feeling in the front. The front is more stable and you can push more and in general it gives a better feeling.”
He added: “We needed to improve the problem in braking and this is the most positive point of the test because we can use this from next week. We improve quite a lot in the braking by improving the setting to stop the bike which has been the problem that I have had from the beginning of the season. But I think we make a step.”
Valentino Rossi impressed with 2014 YZR-M1 - | Motorcycle Sport | MotoGP News | MotoGP Results | MCN

Dani focuses on present rather than future:We mainly worked on the shock and the rear part of the bike to try and get some grip with different settings from the race. Not everything was super clear but we had some positive things and some ideas for the next race. I tried the new bike but only for four laps and I wasn’t really focused on that because I need much more time on my current bike. Not everything was completely clear but we have some things to try now for the next race, also with the mapping.We need to try with different asphalt and tyres because in Misano I struggled with this asphalt and all tyres and in the test I tried many things with used tyres and I felt always faster on used tyres than new tyres. That is quite strange because normally you go at least 0.4s quicker than your race time but it was not the case for me all weekend.”
Dani Pedrosa concentrates on present rather than future - | Motorcycle Sport | MotoGP News | MotoGP Results | MCN

Bridgestone brings in new hard compounds:Rossi told MCN: “We push a lot to have a new hard tyre because already the number of tyres is not a lot and if you can never use the hard one then you can only use half the allocation. For me and my style the hard tyre is very good and I am happy if the hard tyre works because in all my career I have always used the hard tyres and I suffer more with the soft. So it is positive because finally Bridgestone bring an hard tyre that is a clear step and I hope we can use it as soon as possible.”
New Bridgestone hard rear tyre gets thumbs up - | Motorcycle Sport | MotoGP News | MotoGP Results | MCN

Cal boosts confidence after Misano test: “I got a little bit more confidence back but I am not getting over excited because it is only a test and it is no good being good on a Monday and being s**t on a Sunday. I feel happier than what I did over the weekend and at Silverstone. I still think if the race was today it would be difficult to beat the top four but I believe we’d have been a lot closer.
Yesterday (Sunday) was a race of survival and making sure I finished. I was surprised that I finished sixth but we have gained some confidence back. I did some good runs, I was happy and I felt comfortable and my lap times were consistent. We have still got some work to do with me and the bike but we are going in the right direction.”
Cal Crutchlow boosts confidence in Misano test - | Motorcycle Sport | MotoGP News | MotoGP Results | MCN

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Yes, we need some fresh air!

An old article....

Simon Crafar: Let's get back to great racing - Interviews - Visordown

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Marc would be the first to win a Motogp Title in the Rookie year, First I guess its KrJr Sr.
I guess that is what fans are ,aint it. Their fav rider wins or loses. They'd still be fans. That wouldnt change overnight.
Title hopes maybe beyond him, now this Marc rides like a demon possessed and Lorenzo is developed his riding style to suit the short come of his ride. I agree.
I dont understand why would the fans stop rooting for him.

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I meant MM will be the first one to win 2 classes in first respective tries (moto2 and motogp). Kenny Roberts didn't win the 250cc championship in the first try (or at all).

Cheer all you want but please. I don't see how what I said got interpreted as anti-cheering. Supporting/rooting for your favorite rider can not be objectionable, objectively speaking. It's the pitiable defenses that the faboys use to defend him (e.g. lean fuel mix, his heavier built, lower power due to engine conservation, tyres not suited to his style) is what gets to me. When it comes to Rossi, it's NEVER his fault. Rossi himself has admitted he is currently not on the same level as the top 3, while the fanboys busy themselves fabricating new stories. Do you see any other rider ever being defended that way? There has to be some level of reason to it, don't you agree?

To draw parallels in F1, I cheered for Michael Schumacher 2010-12. I was a dedicated fan for nearly a decade (1998 to his retirement in 2006). But a few races into his comeback, I realized that the game had moved on and he wasn't going to do any significant damage in the championship. I still cheered for him every quali and race but I wasn't completely out of touch with reality.

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[MENTION=56299]dishayu[/MENTION] my bad, I completely misunderstood you. I'm a fan boy but not who doesn't accept the facts. I cheer for him all the time. But no excuses. Results matter to me more than reasons. He's fourth currently because for me that's his current level compared to the rest of the grid. Once in a while he might impress us but I agree that the best of Rossi is past.
But I still want one more title.

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I understand, it so happens.
Like some people think that Rossi's best quality was only to mock opponents on/off track and make the right career decision, whereas some think its sheer luck and lack of proper competition lead to him winning so many titles. Same way some would think that it might be the weight issue, it leaner fuel or something which if corrected their hero would be on top. Cant stop everyone, free will . Well, this post is nothing against you, I am just stating my opinion.
I started watching F1 cuz I was a Schumi fan(I respect Senna much more tho) , I dont watch F1 anymore.(But keep a tab, or log in to check, where Force India have finished, but dont watch like I used to).Even Cricket(ok, lets not go there )
Bradl won against him,remember, he skipped race, with an eye patch


Marc Marquez stats.
125 cc
2008 KTM: 13th
2009 KTM: 8th
2010 Derbi: 8th
Moto2:
2011 Suter : 2nd
2013 Suter : 1st
MotoGp:
2013 HRC : Leading ...

Courtesy Motogp
Marquez hasnt finished outside top3 since Indianapolis 2012, apart from 2 crashes,

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Just a small correction : 2010 Derbi, he won the 125 championship.

I just checked as well, my memory deceived me. For some reason I thought he had won 125 in 2009, 250 in 2010. :S

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So rossi liked the 2014 M1... Good, but how is he gonna use it in remaining races.. Didn't get it. .. Does it mean he will use 2014 bike with 2013 engines..???

Regarding new hard tyres..are they available for both front and rear coz the title says hard rear tyres... But rossi needs hard front tyres.

Thanks braumabull for that data..so it means marc became competitive only when he got a good bike..and he is not a born talent. ..

What makes him lethal is his willingness to take more risks and push beyond limits...not to mention the best bike on the grid.

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Yes, I copied it from the previous record and forgot to change it, (and that was important one too).
Thanks for correction..

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Not entirely true,cannot say that he doesnt have talent. cuz he's not scared to dish it out when it counts. Taking risk ,finding limit.
I think 2014 M1 is only for next year. But they have some improvement in setting up the current bike too, but not major.(anyways thats what is always said.)

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Actually that's not true. He took a KTM to 8th place in 2009, which is way beyond what the bike was capable of (IIRC, KTM was so uncompetitive, it was about to pull out). He got a podium, a poll position and a lot of top5 finishes in a grid of 30+ riders and about 25 of them on derbi/aprillia bikes (think ducati vs Honda/yamaha in motogp today). As soon as he got on top of a Derbi bike, he won 10 races in the season which is bettered only by Rossi (11 wins).

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The above statement is illogical. No one has ever won a championship with a bad bike. To win a championship one must have at least a competitive bike (and not a good one). Rossi, Stoner, Lorenzo have all won on competitive bikes. Not necessarily the best ones on the grid...but competitive (and with consistent results I might add).

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At San Marino, except the first lap (standing start) and the last lap (victory celebrations, pretty much). ALL of Lorenzo's laps were between 1.34.020 and 1.34.573. That is some scary consistency. o_O

Ref : Max Biaggi's tweet, retweeted by Lorenzo.

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Can't keep him out.... even from a discussion forum for long -

Rossi's wooden spoon - MotoGP - Motor Sport Magazine.