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Loved each word that you said R-series.

Fortunately, Giacomo Agostini raced a long time back for him to be as popular as Rossi in this generation. Otherwise, he would have been branded as the "lucky" rider as well!

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@aditya_YZF-R15,

Nobody win's 9 MotoGP world titles by luck. Its ridiculus to say that.
Rossi has dominated over a long period of time that includes the 2-strokes all the way to the current 4-strokes spanning different generation of riders, bikes, riding styles etc.

Anybody can say anything they want but ultimately what matters is who won. I believe no one can truly understand how big a deal winning is as much as his (past) competitors. IMO he is the greatest of all time, atleast of the time that our generation knows about.

But having said that, I feel that the sport of MotoGP is not about Rossi anymore. I care about the sport and the sport is not about one person. The current players are the Spaniards, I think people need to accept this fact.

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I completely agree. This lot of spaniards even Stoner is a different breed of racers. Just like Kenny changed the style by knee dragging these rider's use more of their weight and move around the bike so quick it's not easy to replicate. Not even Rossi.

But I still say, there is no reason in not hoping he would win another title and I can't back that up till he wins it.

Any one came across this news?

Hayden was denied the new version of the GP13, saying that there is not enough material. Now isn't that a silly excuse to give to the 20067 world champ. For god sake, grow up Ducati

Hayden-“It is a bit frustrating because all along I was supposed to test the new bike but now that is not happening. There is nothing to test for me with this bike. I don’t know what is left to try on this bike.

They say they don’t have the material but it is a little bit touchy because all the time I was led to believe I would be testing it and I found out on Thursday they don’t have the parts. Dovi has switched and it hasn’t made a big difference but I am won’t be trying it or at all this season. I’d ridden the first version of the new bike and I wasn’t completely happy with it but it seems like with the latest one they have made a step with it.

When Dovi tested it here a couple of months he felt it was better. As I am struggling at the moment I would love to try something but they don’t have the parts and it is not going to happen. We are not convinced it is a whole lot better but I would have liked to try it.”

Nicky Hayden frustrated at Ducati upgrade snub - | Motorcycle Sport | MotoGP News | MotoGP Results | MCN

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me too....in the same boat...just one last title...

the news is already posted in this thread...ducati will never grow up....employer/employee relationship...

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There was a time when I used to follow F1 and MotoGP like a truly dedicated, obsessed, crazed fan does - live, breathe and eat it. Those were the days of Prost, Mansell, Senna and before, even to Nikki Lauda. Came the bikes and Biaggi, Capirossi, Doohan, Criville, Okada etc were the demigods.

I have seen Rossi race in the 125s, 250s and 500s. The sight of that irreverent, curly haired clown, masquerading as a bike racer, self-styled "Doctor", on the track, was made sharper by his dangerously frequent podium finishes. Removing a metal ball from his ankles as a sign of being freed from lower scores was Rossi's own special way of reducing the fantastic stresses of such a high performance job.

Later, as I got married and started learning how to handle my own high-maintenance partner (wife!!!), motor racing receded to the background. I did hear bits and pieces of MotoGP talk - the march of the Spaniards, the horrific death of Simoncelli, the new CRT laws etc.

On Sunday last i.e. 14 Sep, I was watching some parts of the Misano GP and to my utter shock, I saw Rossi's "46". I was stunned to see this old man, veteran, grandpa (by MotoGP terms) giving the new kids on the block a taste of their own medicine. I had not at all expected Rossi to be anywhere near a bike in 2013, leave alone participating with great success in the blue riband top Moto GP class. So I went to the internet and found that this man had been in the hot seat for the past some 14 odd years.

Friends, a rider can be given a better bike, season after season. Better management, better paddock teams, a higher wage, conducive pit environment, helpful co-riders. But the one factor that can NEVER, EVER be given to him is AGE. Year by year, the rider ages and with him, age his reflexes, his vision, balance and most crucially, the almost savage desire to win at all costs, even to the point of losing one's life in the effort. MotoGP by its complete dependence on high performance humans, is a sport for the very young. And Rossi, at 34, is anything but that.

He is in his sunset years now and deserves our salutes and our thanks for entertaining us, wowing us and holding us in thrall for so many years. Give the man his due. He may last a year or two at max. Let him have his last days the way he wants them to end.

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[MENTION=33779]icemang[/MENTION] - well said, Sir!! For a moment it felt like the thread was loosing it & I thought I wasn't gonna get MotoGP related updates for long, since Makky's last appearance.

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Quite a pity when a former WSBK champion goes through a string of bad luck. However, think from a team's point of view - You build a prototype machine pouring millions of dollars only to be raced by your test rider through-out the season.

MotoGP interviews Ben Spies -

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If Marc Marquez doesn't end up killing himself, it's damn nearly inevitable that he'll break Rossi's records. I can't put a number on it but he is well on his way to his 3rd championship this year and he's just 20. Not to mention the one championship in Moto2 that he had to abandon (2011). If I was a betting man I would put my money on Marquez to have crossed 9 titles in 10 years time.

And the fact there is no one in the pipeline who seems to be a challenge to him. That is unless of course, someone like Stoner comes in, who did not do well in lower classes.

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Nice to know you believe in him so much. In fact if I ask the same question to myself I would bet my money on the kid right now. But you see Rossi has done it. Just like Rossi encountered likes of stoner and Jorge it's inevitable that Marc would also get challenges like them through the next 8-9 yrs. not only that technical issues and tyre issues are a part of the same game. like Jorge now and Rossi in the past, Marc would have to evolve as a racer as well, shear speed will never be able to take him to 7 more titles. How successfully he can do that is a question. Till now it's only 3-4 yrs we've known him, I just feel its a risky affair but none the less a rewarding one to bet your money on him. Hopefully if we are here together after 10 years from now we can touch base with this discussion again.
Even at that time I would say Marc was more talented and smarter than the other riders, rather than saying he was lucky.

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I highly doubt any one of us will remember this in 10 years :P

I have believed that he will lay his claim on the title of GOAT ever since I saw him starting the race from dead last slot on 2 occasions (in smaller classes). And watching how he ended up with a win and a podium finish in those races. Even Rossi didn't win 250cc championship in his first year and neither the motogp (500cc) class. MM93 is likely to be the first one to do it.

And as for the matter of Luck, I don't really subscribe to the opinion that Luck can win championships. I have nothing but respect for the 9 titles Rossi has accumulated but the army of fanboys is what pisses me off. There has to be a point when these people need to realize that he is well past his prime and another title is all but beyond him now.

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Before I begin, I wish to make it clear that I in no way trying to hijack this thread or ...................... But, I think, it 'd be good to share a chunk of my story here from the other thread -



The 'fanboys'/fanclub know that he is past his prime. No facial mask there. But, they want him to win! It's quite normal, IMO.

A bit of "oooo and aaaa" 'll be there everywhere. You can't take them as actuals.

Well, I have great admiration for Marquez. It started right at his 125cc days. That race at Estroil, Portugal in 2010 is still before my eyes. I 'll not be disappointed if, he surpasses Rossi's record. After all, to achieve so much, a rider must be immensely talented which also means, he thoroughly deserves all the accolades.

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@Makky : PLEASE, get it out of your head that i'm targeting you. My posts are NOT targeted towards you. Stop defending yourself, no one's attacking. :|

For the record, you are one of the reasonable fans of the sport and I don't even put you in the mad fanboy category.

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I know it very well. Just wanted to tell that members from the fan club aren't hooligans.

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JUST-IN:

Blimey....!
Esp found a way out - to race on a non-MSMA Yamaha for NGM next season.

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Came here to post just that. He's buying his way out for 400k Euros as opposed to 650k initially expected.

Edit : Let's see how he does against his brother on the factory Yamaha. He jokingly said recently that he'll beat Pol in every race next year. :P

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4th-place rider!

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