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    ^^ he he.. Lorenzo will be cursing him a lot in his mind...but it was pretty evident..everybody saw that...

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    • Re: MotoGP 2014 Season - Updates

      Originally posted by The Monk View Post
      Surprising seeing no one mention Moto3 here, the best action this year has been in this class. Moto 2 is boring as all the fast guys have moved up to MotoGP.

      GP is going to get very boring with every race being won by Marquez!

      The talent in Moto 3 is amazing. Jack Miller, the two Alexes Rins and Marquez, Fenati, are all evenly matched in skill and talent, and it is awesome watching these four guys bringing the house down. Fantastic race, watch the last lap at Le Mans if you haven't.
      You forgot Vazquez. My heart goes out to him. Poor guy is always on full steam.

      I think MM should be thoroughly examined to make sure he is a human and not any robot or an alien. At this rate MotoGP will be boring. Dorna should change the rules. Rider finishing first should start the next race last, and so on. How he implements this is his problem.
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        Watched the moto3 highlights. The top 7 were covered in 1 second. Jesus
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          Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
          You forgot Vazquez. My heart goes out to him. Poor guy is always on full steam.

          I think MM should be thoroughly examined to make sure he is a human and not any robot or an alien. At this rate MotoGP will be boring. Dorna should change the rules. Rider finishing first should start the next race last, and so on. How he implements this is his problem.
          Vazquez is nowhere in the same league as the others. He is 26, been at this level for donkey's years. Never has won a race, and in a couple of seasons won't be allowed to race in Moto3 due to age restrictions.

          This was almost his first win, yet Miller on a much slower bike shut him out.

          He is never in the race, always has made a nuisance of himself by allowing the leader to make a break, and making the catching group brake!!!! So no, i didn't forget him, i ignored him
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            A very well written article about motogp racer psyche by Mat Oxley and how this has pumped up Rossi for Mugello -

            Mugello: Holy of Holies - MotoGP - Motor Sport Magazine
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            • Re: MotoGP 2014 Season - Updates

              Originally posted by The Monk View Post
              A very well written article about motogp racer psyche by Mat Oxley and how this has pumped up Rossi for Mugello -

              Mugello: Holy of Holies - MotoGP - Motor Sport Magazine
              After reading the above article I found one thing- Maybe the real champion is the one who can overtake & come up the ranks, like Rossi & Marquez do; & not the one who can go fast only if out in front, like Lorenzo.

              & very emotional lines from Rossi,"I wish I could be 22 yrs old to fight with Marquez like this day-in & day-out."

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                The thing is: when Rossi was with Ducati, he tried to win races rather than enjoy racing. And with a bike that wasn't best suited for him, he couldn't do as well as he would have liked to. Things started to fall apart, and he went low on confidence.

                Being an experienced racer, a bit of self-realisation would have helped him to understand that winning matters lesser than enjoying his races. And right now, you can see how relaxed he is. He is enjoying himself on the M1, and more importantly, he seems to think about how he himself can get better rather blaming things on bike or track or whatsoever. Given a bike which is as good as a Honda now, you can see him beat the hell out of MM. Rest assured that he will only get better enough to end the outright dominance of Marq. But for Jorge, he is exactly in the opposite side of Rossi where many things have started to play in his mind.

                That said, I'm not discrediting the fantastic show that Marq is putting up. As I said earlier, this man rides at another level.
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                  Originally posted by kilometerkiller View Post
                  The thing is: when Rossi was with Ducati, he tried to win races rather than enjoy racing. And with a bike that wasn't best suited for him, he couldn't do as well as he would have liked to. Things started to fall apart, and he went low on confidence.

                  Being an experienced racer, a bit of self-realisation would have helped him to understand that winning matters lesser than enjoying his races. And right now, you can see how relaxed he is. He is enjoying himself on the M1, and more importantly, he seems to think about how he himself can get better rather blaming things on bike or track or whatsoever. Given a bike which is as good as a Honda now, you can see him beat the hell out of MM. Rest assured that he will only get better enough to end the outright dominance of Marq. But for Jorge, he is exactly in the opposite side of Rossi where many things have started to play in his mind.

                  That said, I'm not discrediting the fantastic show that Marq is putting up. As I said earlier, this man rides at another level.

                  You are looking it upside-down. Rossi has raced and still races because he enjoys racing and that includes his 2 Ducati years. The preferences and ballparks of a result changes from racer to racer. Some racers race just to finish the race while some race to win or close to achieving the best result. Rossi being a nine time world champion would always want to finish at the highest level whether or not he can do it.

                  At Ducati, saying Rossi fell on confidence just because he couldn't win is inaccurate. The problem was he couldn't ride the Desmo the way he wanted to and as a result he couldn't enjoy riding it. And that eventually cost him good results. I am still not sure that confidence was his problem! It was escalating in nature giving rise to new problems. The point is, even at Ducati, first and foremost, Rossi always wanted to enjoy riding till the last day in the Italian paddock and that has always been his driving force. And he did try to change his riding style to suit the Ducati as well almost as much he wanted the bike to be changed. The problems with Ducati are genuine and Doviozo and Crutchlow confirm that every now and then.

                  This fact wasn't forgotten in Rossi's mind then. With new spec tyres especially this year, Rossi has adapted to M1 more than ever and the results are coming. But that is not the only reason. His gamble to change his crew chief from Burgess to Galbusera is paying dividends. And changing the crew chief was purely a gut move by Rossi more than anything else, as he wanted to find new motivation. Competency of his crew chief wasn't the reason at all. Rossi believed that with a new person he might/would be able to see things differently and probably that is what he needs to come back to his old ways.

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                    Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post
                    & very emotional lines from Rossi,"I wish I could be 22 yrs old to fight with Marquez like this day-in & day-out."

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                    These lines perhaps mean a lot as Rossi has perhaps never ridden so hard so consistently ever.

                    In fact in his earlier years, he enjoyed clear dominance over the rest of the field due to three or four major factors; Same age riders who either graduated to the premier class or shifted teams, HRC support, Mick Doohan as the mentor, No competition from the oldies of the class (Doohan and Criville had retired).

                    The only competition he had was from Alex Barros and Max Biaggi and both of them had some sort of disadvantage or the other. Alex Barros rode for a satellite team so he never had access to the latest parts for his NSR. Max used to ride for the Yamaha which never had anything going for it.

                    I think Rossi is hungry to prove that he is still worth it and that desperation is pushing him. Of course, age is not on his side and this constant chase with MM is proving to be a handful for him.
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                      Read this article. Marc Marquez is trying to gain new possibilities of riding with those Bridgestone Battlax tyres. He is very brave & rides like there's no tomorrow. Brakes inside the corners while others brake before the corner & then take a right/left. The thing is that MM is incredibly good at this. There is such a high probability of crashing that MM is said to be on the 0.00001% of the right side !! Whereas other riders are afraid to even go for it.

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                      • Re: MotoGP 2014 Season - Updates

                        Originally posted by kilometerkiller View Post
                        And with a bike that wasn't best suited for him, he couldn't do as well as he would have liked to.
                        Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
                        The problem was he couldn't ride the Desmo the way he wanted to and as a result he couldn't enjoy riding it. And that eventually cost him good results. I am still not sure that confidence was his problem!
                        Anna (if may I call you so!)...

                        Both of us are looking at the prism from the same side albeit at a different angle. I also observe that you have pointed out gaps in my thoughts. Very well, and thanks for that.

                        Just to add further to my points... Rossi in fact while explaining his move to Yamaha from Ducati accepted that he struggled, and he never really felt home with the Desmo, and also that he wanted to be more competitive. When such thoughts happen, it goes without saying that the rider (who probably be in twilight of his career) won't be able to concentrate on the race as much as he would want to/like to. That is what I tried to say.

                        Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
                        It isn't always related to the bike
                        I agree.

                        Whatever it is, it is good to see that the champion is still fighting his way back. I'm sure good days are ahead before he chooses to put his bike in paddock.
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                        • Re: MotoGP 2014 Season - Updates

                          is there anyone in this thread who is not so much all into rossi ? or even someone just a normal mild rossi's appreciator but not a "fan/fanboy" so to speak ? just wondering. :-)

                          meanwhile, something much more important than an apparent revival of rossi -

                          2016 is gonna be a new motogp - spec electronics all over and a new tyre supplier who obviously won't have as much data and recent GP experience in their tyres for at least the first several races...shit is going to be stirred and reshuffled..i am actually looking forward to 2016 already..
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                          • Re: MotoGP 2014 Season - Updates

                            ^^ MugelloGP and his 300th race is a lil' over a week away. On June 1st, I'm gonna don my yellow 46 tee and the Official Fans Club Valentino Rossi Tavullia flag 'll be fluttering high at my house!

                            Anyway, wondering if, Yamaha 'd sign some Moto2 rookie - Vinales/Salom under Tech3 umbrella to try and stop MM in the future. If that's the case, Bradley Smith might lose his ride. There are speculations that Vinales might jump on Bradl's LCR.

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                              Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
                              is there anyone in this thread who is not so much all into rossi ? or even someone just a normal mild rossi's appreciator but not a "fan/fanboy" so to speak ?
                              You will have a tough time finding one. Most of us are Rossi FANBOY just like you are Lorenzo's or even more
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                                Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
                                is there anyone in this thread who is not so much all into rossi ? or even someone just a normal mild rossi's appreciator but not a "fan/fanboy" so to speak ? just wondering. :-)
                                Me me me. Probably the only one active on this thread. No wait there was another. Nirvana or lalitp or somebody. Can't remember. But yes ME

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                                Oh saw Nirvana post above me saying he is a rossi fanboy. My Bad
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