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ktm bikes look so different compared to most indian bikes....is it a street fighter or hypermotard ..riding position resembles those of dirt bikes...what is it?...ktm 690 saddle looks so high i wonder if short or even people of average height can put their feet on ground...hope they make ktm 125 little shorter
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Originally posted by Aravind View Postktm bikes look so different compared to most indian bikes....is it a street fighter or hypermotard ..riding position resembles those of dirt bikes...what is it?...ktm 690 saddle looks so high i wonder if short or even people of average height can put their feet on ground...hope they make ktm 125 little shorter
The bike does carry forward the strong off road genes of KTM in its design.
Tall suspension, high ground clearance (185 mm). Tall seating position. Slick wide Street tyres. In that aspect the bike can be called as a Supermoto.
But then its not pure Supermoto in design either since the tank is like the ones on Street Fighter motorcycle (Off roaders and Supermotos have flat tanks).
I'll say that the KTM 125 Duke is a Street bike with an off road/supermoto character or more Specifically a Street bike with the KTM character.
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define stellar performer? if it makes 15bhp (am guessing.) we have the entire 150cc line up for that. the reason why P135 sells is because it priced as a 135cc bike but makes almost a 150cc bike's power. if your gonna price a 125cc bike with a 150cc's power @ almost half the price of a ninja it just doesnt make sense does it? either all the power will be way below or way above. and it would get unsatisfying to ride it after some time. let the bike be as tech laden as god may wish but in india bikes are for commuting unless he is a cash rich crazy bike fan. i see it basically as premium brand. i suppose bajaj's plan is to make the pulsar the mass market brand the ktm the mid market and the kawasaki as the higher end market.Originally posted by xionite View Postso it wouldn't be worth 1.2 lac (ish) if it were a stellar performer... ???
p.s. hope i dint come off as offensive.
Regardless, Life shall go on.
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agreed.Originally posted by yellowspunk View Postdefine stellar performer? if it makes 15bhp (am guessing.) we have the entire 150cc line up for that. the reason why P135 sells is because it priced as a 135cc bike but makes almost a 150cc bike's power. if your gonna price a 125cc bike with a 150cc's power @ almost half the price of a ninja it just doesnt make sense does it? either all the power will be way below or way above. and it would get unsatisfying to ride it after some time. let the bike be as tech laden as god may wish but in india bikes are for commuting unless he is a cash rich crazy bike fan. i see it basically as premium brand. i suppose bajaj's plan is to make the pulsar the mass market brand the ktm the mid market and the kawasaki as the higher end market.
p.s. hope i dint come off as offensive.
If is targeted to only the stunters,then they might be ready not to sell many of them.may be their target is 100-200 units per year.thats all.HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3
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i'm going to use the P150 purely as an example...Originally posted by yellowspunk View Postdefine stellar performer? if it makes 15bhp (am guessing.) we have the entire 150cc line up for that.
Pulsar 150 | Yamaha R15
Only one of these is a stellar performer.
both are 150s... huge difference in performance.
cubic capacity isn't the only thing that'll decide the "value" of this KTM.
the tech on this bike will be far superior.
just go through the spec list.
oh.. and this bikes weighs 128 kilos.
commuter... KTM... not!Originally posted by yellowspunk View Postlet the bike be as tech laden as god may wish but in india bikes are for commuting
prolly. maybe. yea.Originally posted by yellowspunk View Posti see it basically as premium brand.
and for those who know/can appreciate what this bike is worth..
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How is this different from an R15 engine +gearbox in a FZ? Can yamaha not beat this bike singlehandedly within 2 month of launch? I fail to understand the novelty in this. If anything, the yamaha FZ-15 will cme at a cheaper price than the Duke 125 and still perform better. Seriously speaking, Add a 6th cog in a FZ and plonk the R15 engine in it.. hell it will be the best touro-stunter bike in India...Originally posted by xionite View Posti'm going to use the P150 purely as an example...
Pulsar 150 | Yamaha R15
Only one of these is a stellar performer.
both are 150s... huge difference in performance.
cubic capacity isn't the only thing that'll decide the "value" of this KTM.
the tech on this bike will be far superior.
just go through the spec list.
oh.. and this bikes weighs 128 kilos.
commuter... KTM... not!
prolly. maybe. yea.
and for those who know/can appreciate what this bike is worth.Advice is a form of nostalgia.
Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.
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no comment.Originally posted by antz.bin View PostHow is this different from an R15 engine +gearbox in a FZ?
i know what you mean but...Originally posted by antz.bin View PostSeriously speaking, Add a 6th cog in a FZ and plonk the R15 engine in it.. hell it will be the best touro-stunter bike in India...
how is that "seriously speaking"?
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Guys, the Duke 125 is expected to sell at around 1500 units a month initially, with an expected increase of 35-50% demand by end of first year.. Bajaj isn't aiming for HIGH SALES FIGURES with this bike.. Its more to do with tech sharing and gauging market reraction.. Besides, imagine this bike being exported from India to Indonesia & other Bajaj markets.. It'll sell like HOT CAKES over there..
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Errr, guys, dont judge bikes on pure cubic capacity. If that was the case, then the two-stroke 100cc RX100s would be the slowest bikes in the country


Btw, one small technical term, Power to weight Ratio.
The Duke125 will weigh 128kgs (dry) and will generate around 15bHP, so it should have a power-weight ratio of .117HP/kg. That would probably bring it at par with the R15, which weighs at around 131kg (dry) and generates 16.8bHP, so its power-weight ratio is .128HP/kg..
My point here being, this bike will have plenty of power :P And since it made by a company that also makes other superbikes, you can expect it to be a well tuned machine.
And, Pulsar 135 DOES NOT have inverted forks, wide section tires, huge disk brakes and the lightweight chassis this bike does have. So, there's no point in comparing the two over price. You shouldn't compare at all.D'oh!
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Answer 1:Originally posted by Omega Man View PostWhich Duke is this?
Answer 2:Originally posted by payeng View PostIts the KTM 690 Duke.
Its the KaTooM I am waiting for
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The correct term is SuperMoto and not Hyper Motard... The later is another dream machine from an italian stable...Originally posted by Aravind View Postktm bikes look so different compared to most indian bikes....is it a street fighter or hypermotard ..riding position resembles those of dirt bikes...what is it?...ktm 690 saddle looks so high i wonder if short or even people of average height can put their feet on ground...hope they make ktm 125 little shorter
Food for thought:Originally posted by antz.bin View PostHow is this different from an R15 engine +gearbox in a FZ? Can yamaha not beat this bike singlehandedly within 2 month of launch? I fail to understand the novelty in this. If anything, the yamaha FZ-15 will cme at a cheaper price than the Duke 125 and still perform better. Seriously speaking, Add a 6th cog in a FZ and plonk the R15 engine in it.. hell it will be the best touro-stunter bike in India...
R15 generates 15NM @ 7500 RPM - Dry Weight of 120KG
The KTM generates 12NM @ 8000 RPM - Dry weight of 118KG
With a 6 speed transmission, I guess we wont really see the real KTM dna in this 'learners' bike!
The Duke says 118KG rtr.. Please dont get the p135 into this discussion!Originally posted by ZeNashB View PostErrr, guys, dont judge bikes on pure cubic capacity. If that was the case, then the two-stroke 100cc RX100s would be the slowest bikes in the country


Btw, one small technical term, Power to weight Ratio.
The Duke125 will weigh 128kgs (dry) and will generate around 15bHP, so it should have a power-weight ratio of .117HP/kg. That would probably bring it at par with the R15, which weighs at around 131kg (dry) and generates 16.8bHP, so its power-weight ratio is .128HP/kg..
My point here being, this bike will have plenty of power :P And since it made by a company that also makes other superbikes, you can expect it to be a well tuned machine.
And, Pulsar 135 DOES NOT have inverted forks, wide section tires, huge disk brakes and the lightweight chassis this bike does have. So, there's no point in comparing the two over price. You shouldn't compare at all.Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more
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Is it that easyOriginally posted by antz.bin View PostIf anything, the yamaha FZ-15 will cme at a cheaper price than the Duke 125 and still perform better. Seriously speaking, Add a 6th cog in a FZ and plonk the R15 engine in it.. hell it will be the best touro-stunter bike in India...
? Your post make me feel that Yamaha can do that at their own will in a day or two.
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Learner's bike R15 or Learner's bike Duke 125? But I still fail to understand how a Duke 125 will be superior to your R15 stripped out. I recollect you have ridden the 690 but I fail to understand how the 125 and 690 are even remotely similar apart from the KTM Logo. It will be like saying "A Twister is a fun machine and totally worth 1 lac because it looks like a CB1000R and makes less power and torque than a Unicorn", I mean are they even connected?Originally posted by satyenpoojary View PostFood for thought:
R15 generates 15NM @ 7500 RPM - Dry Weight of 120KG
The KTM generates 12NM @ 8000 RPM - Dry weight of 118KG
With a 6 speed transmission, I guess we wont really see the real KTM dna in this 'learners' bike!
And the reason FZ-15 needs a 6th as it has to compete with a 6 speed KTM 125.
Fine.. beat me with a stick for writing thatOriginally posted by MG_Biker1806 View PostIs it that easy
? Your post make me feel that Yamaha can do that at their own will in a day or two.
but I fail to understand the hype. Look deep inside your heart and tell me from the bottom of your heart, do we realllly need another 15PS generating bike in our country?
And I had written 2 months not 1-2 days.
Advice is a form of nostalgia.
Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.
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