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**sayhi2sai** · 04-05-2011, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by MeTaL_MaNiaC View Post

Thanks a lot!! That is indeed helpful!!

No problem bro..

I was infact in the same confusion a few days ago. Confirmed this news after extensive research, hence I thought I will save that trouble for fellow Bhpians by sharing the info.. Hope it helps..

**myg124** · 04-05-2011, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by ansh@honda View Post

Hi Guys!!!

Short Intro: I am an Vehicle Stability & Brakes testing engineer at honda cars.

Just got in touch with a buddy of mine at HMSI who does Homologation testing for HMSI bikes.
He drove the CBR for about 2 months at VRDE pune.
He did a maximum speed of 148Km/h, without any difficulty. There is no vibration trouble from the couling, the brakes are more then sufficient for the bike.

The mileage was found out to be around 37Km/h during testing so he said it would be around 32~33 Km/l during street driving.

The bike with the C link ABS is totally worth it if u like to take the things to the edge. But for regular drivers ABS wouldn't affect that much.

Also I talked to a designer at Honda R&D, he mentioned the ABS was mainly meant for the heavier bikes. Since the CBR is not a heavy bike so it should be fine without the ABS.

The petrol to used with the CBR would be the High Octane one.

The lights are superb, good enough visibility in the darkest nights.

I hope you find something useful from comment.

I am booking my CBR on 8thr April. Cheeers!!!!

But I am still confused about The Devilish Red ...or ...The Haunted Black.

Welcome mate

Well, regarding the top speed, isnt it around the 170 mark as seen on videos on youtube? Or is it the speedo error?? And most importantly do the Honda people test bikes with the box attached which gives an exact speed output??

And really good info. I knew the counterbalancer will definitely give a vibe-free ride and overall composure.

My query: hows the handling and suspension?? any rides over bad roads?? this would be really sweet. Do reply! And go for the red hot red

Hiten: Haha! Well I said so because these showroom idiots wouldnt allow one to sit anyway and luckily during my time nobody was bothered about the ceeber. Rolled the leg over, sat for a good while, got the entire house down to attend me. Customer service..really!

**ganiprash** · 04-05-2011, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by ansh@honda View Post

Hi Guys!!!

Short Intro: I am an Vehicle Stability & Brakes testing engineer at honda cars.

Just got in touch with a buddy of mine at HMSI who does Homologation testing for HMSI bikes.
He drove the CBR for about 2 months at VRDE pune.
He did a maximum speed of 148Km/h, without any difficulty. There is no vibration trouble from the couling, the brakes are more then sufficient for the bike.

The mileage was found out to be around 37Km/h during testing so he said it would be around 32~33 Km/l during street driving.

The bike with the C link ABS is totally worth it if u like to take the things to the edge. But for regular drivers ABS wouldn't affect that much.

Also I talked to a designer at Honda R&D, he mentioned the ABS was mainly meant for the heavier bikes. Since the CBR is not a heavy bike so it should be fine without the ABS.

The petrol to used with the CBR would be the High Octane one.

The lights are superb, good enough visibility in the darkest nights.

I hope you find something useful from comment.

I am booking my CBR on 8thr April. Cheeers!!!!

But I am still confused about The Devilish Red ...or ...The Haunted Black.

Thanx a lot man

very nice to hear..

**MeTaL_MaNiaC** · 04-05-2011, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by myg124 View Post

Welcome mate

Well, regarding the top speed, isnt it around the 170 mark as seen on videos on youtube? Or is it the speedo error??

the 170 speed bike is modded.. Some CO box and custom fuel mapping done.. The same guy has a video of stock bike doing 154kmph..
And heard the speedo error being 2% in the cbr250r.

**ganiprash** · 04-05-2011, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by sayhi2sai View Post

First of all, Hi everyone... This is my first post, although I have been very closely following this particular thread for a very long time now.

What I have observed is that, although the question has been answered many a times, there is still ambiguity regarding the Octane rating of the fuel to be used in the CBR250R. In this regard, I felt it was necessary that I intervene and clear the air once and for all (hopefully).

Thing is this, after the BS3 norms have been implemented in the country,(April1st 2010) all the petrol bunks are mandated to adhere to these norms. And it clearly states within that , they will have to serve 91 OCTANE PETROL . Infact the BS2 fuels ,87 octane are no longer available in the country. You can check the authenticity of the information on any of the manufacturers websites, i.e IOCL or BPCL or HP or BP.

Although I knew this, I wanted to be absolutely sure before posting it here, so I called up a couple of my friends, one of whom works for IOCL and one who works for BPCL,(both very high up the food chain) confirmed me that all the petrol in the so called, normal bunks for us (i.e those excluding Shell and Reliance) is indeed 91 Octane Petrol.

Bottomline, Have no inhibitions to get your bike refueled at any station.

P.S:- I booked my bike on Feb 2nd from Kun Honda Adyar..

tanx man! very useful infos

**airbase** · 04-05-2011, 07:46 PM

After a long thought process, I have decided to let this baby go out of my mind. The thought process was very tough to decide upon, but would be conducive for the bigger goal, which I have for years.

COngrats once again, to all prospective owners. I for once again, live among frustrations. Something.. must be done, must be..

Abhi

**HH_HUNK** · 04-05-2011, 07:53 PM

Good to read about the updates

Lets see how it turns out!!!

**jerk** · 04-05-2011, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by ansh@honda View Post

Hi Guys!!!

Short Intro: I am an Vehicle Stability & Brakes testing engineer at honda cars.

Just got in touch with a buddy of mine at HMSI who does Homologation testing for HMSI bikes.
He drove the CBR for about 2 months at VRDE pune.
He did a maximum speed of 148Km/h, without any difficulty. There is no vibration trouble from the couling, the brakes are more then sufficient for the bike.

The mileage was found out to be around 37Km/h during testing so he said it would be around 32~33 Km/l during street driving.

The bike with the C link ABS is totally worth it if u like to take the things to the edge. But for regular drivers ABS wouldn't affect that much.

Also I talked to a designer at Honda R&D, he mentioned the ABS was mainly meant for the heavier bikes. Since the CBR is not a heavy bike so it should be fine without the ABS.

The petrol to used with the CBR would be the High Octane one.

The lights are superb, good enough visibility in the darkest nights.

I hope you find something useful from comment.

I am booking my CBR on 8thr April. Cheeers!!!!

But I am still confused about The Devilish Red ...or ...The Haunted Black.

Well regarding ABS, I would like to make a comment. I think it is harder to lock up wheels on a heavier bike using the same type of disc brakes compared to a lighter bike (Reason being more friction due to weight). They come with double discs because single disc can't provide enough braking force. I personally have felt that speed of the vehicle has very little to do with wheel locking. I guess the whole point of Honda having ABS is to help MOSTLY in unfavourable riding conditions.

**Sarvajit** · 04-05-2011, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by sayhi2sai View Post

First of all, Hi everyone... This is my first post, although I have been very closely following this particular thread for a very long time now.

What I have observed is that, although the question has been answered many a times, there is still ambiguity regarding the Octane rating of the fuel to be used in the CBR250R. In this regard, I felt it was necessary that I intervene and clear the air once and for all (hopefully).

Thing is this, after the BS3 norms have been implemented in the country,(April1st 2010) all the petrol bunks are mandated to adhere to these norms. And it clearly states within that , they will have to serve 91 OCTANE PETROL . Infact the BS2 fuels ,87 octane are no longer available in the country. You can check the authenticity of the information on any of the manufacturers websites, i.e IOCL or BPCL or HP or BP.

Although I knew this, I wanted to be absolutely sure before posting it here, so I called up a couple of my friends, one of whom works for IOCL and one who works for BPCL,(both very high up the food chain) confirmed me that all the petrol in the so called, normal bunks for us (i.e those excluding Shell and Reliance) is indeed 91 Octane Petrol.

Bottomline, Have no inhibitions to get your bike refueled at any station.

P.S:- I booked my bike on Feb 2nd from Kun Honda Adyar..

Sounds good.
However, please do confirm whether your friend is referring to RON (Research Octane Number) or MON (Minimum Octane Number)
In this case, the regular petrol we get has a RON of 91 octane&MON of 87-89 octane.
91 octane would have a RON of 93 or 94.

**sayhi2sai** · 04-05-2011, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

Sounds good.
However, please do confirm whether your friend is referring to RON (Research Octane Number) or MON (Minimum Octane Number)
In this case, the regular petrol we get has a RON of 91 octane&MON of 87-89 octane.
91 octane would have a RON of 93 or 94.

erm, first MON is Motor Octane Number and not Minimum. also, the MON of the petrol at the normal bunks is 81 and not 87 like you mentioned. Most bikes will have a minimum of both RON and MON required. I assumed here that the rating indicated on the bike is 91 (RON) , we can only get more information on this when we look a the bike manual. Or if anyone could get a much closer look at that number 91 on the sticker on the tank, i can give you a much concrete answer. I hope this answers your question.

**sayhi2sai** · 04-05-2011, 08:24 PM

^ also in continuation , in general unless ofcourse it is specifically mentioned, the octane rating of a fuel corresponds to its RON and not MON. And say if CBR needs fuel with minimum MON of 91, then even Shell will not be able to help us. I am not sure about the RON of the SHell petrol(speculation it to be somewhere around 94) but I am absolutely sure that the MON is not 91. So if, CBR requires a minimum MON of 91, god help us, in importing fuels

**HH_HUNK** · 04-05-2011, 08:24 PM

Man this RON & MON thing is freaking me out!!!!!

Guys fight all you want but please solve it before we get our babies!!!!!!

**sayhi2sai** · 04-05-2011, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by HH_HUNK View Post

Man this RON & MON thing is freaking me out!!!!!

Guys fight all you want but please solve it before we get our babies!!!!!!

I think its settled boss, as simple as this, 91 is in all probability RON, and if its that then, you can fill it at any petrol bunk in india, and if its in all improbability
the MON, then import your fuel from elsewhere, which is prop estrous and can safely be ignored ??? Actually, i did know all of this when i made the first post, but I ignored these details, taking practicality into consideration... I knew this would confuse some people, hence I suggested in generic terms. But technically, this is the whole deal... Any more queries left regarding this??

**aargee** · 04-05-2011, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by HH_HUNK View Post

Man this RON & MON thing is freaking me out!!!!!

Lol

Originally posted by sayhi2sai View Post

Any more queries left regarding this??

Yes there's one...

Originally posted by sayhi2sai View Post

the MON, then import your fuel from elsewhere

From where? Are you saying we've to import the fuel? Is that what you mean?

Guys, there's no confusion or nothing to freak out. When you do take the delivery of vehicle, just remain calm & the SA will certainly advice the right fuel to be used. Even if he does not, the owner's manual will certainly have the information. Even if it doesn't, we've xBhp to rescue

From my little knowledge, since the CR is only 10.7, I guess a good quality regular fuel from a reputed fuel station is sufficient.

And for those still wondering on RON/MON stuff here's something to enrich - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

**sayhi2sai** · 04-05-2011, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Lol

From where? Are you saying we've to import the fuel? Is that what you mean?

And for those still wondering on RON/MON stuff here's something to enrich - Octane rating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LOL, no that was my attempt at a sarcastic joke. See , I am absolutely sure when I tell people here, that petrol from every bunk is good, infact it is inline with the suggested petrol to be used. But , if i just came out and made that statement, who would believe/trust? considering it's only my 4th post? :P anyway, you will not be compromising on the performance/damage the bike's engine if you use petrol from the normal bunks. cheers

And what's that one query you said is left?

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