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New Yamaha R15 Version 2.0 - Launched on 6th Sep, 2011

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  • Originally posted by akhilmuraleedhar View Post
    you are talking like a child. if kawasaki can make a twin 250 with 33 bhp ,why not yamaha.because the r25 will be a complete track tool ,its design will be such that it will perform far better than a ninja with similar bhp figures. that is what is called tuning.besides i dont know of any 250 cc sports(track) bike. the ninja,cbr etc are all dual purpose bikes. the r25 will definitely be an international bike for the simple reason that 250 cc markets are available in many countries. the r15 will not make any cut in the (say) US market. but a 250 twin will.
    Dude, what you don't understand is, Yamaha is an international company. Their primary markets right now are in Europe and USA, where they sell larger capacity vehicles in larger quantities. India is a place where the customer (you and me) might ''want'' to see a 250cc in the showroom, but will never have enough dough to buy it. People like us are just hoping for the best eye-candy right now.

    In Europe and USA, they have proper liter class bikes for trackdays that have been made for that very specific purpose. If you make a track-specific bike in a country like India, where there are only a handful of tracks, and widespread track knowledge isn't there, then they product isn't going to sell. The R15 was inspired by its track oriented bigger brothers, but it was never released as a track only bike. They kept street use in mind.

    A 250cc bike in the R-series will be way to costly for Indian consumers. And it will be way too flimsy for European and US consumers. Its in the grey region of biking and companies don't wanna take a risk and lose on R&D and marketing. Ninja 250R is looked at as a great bike in India, but people don't give it a second look abroad, since there are much bigger capacity bikes easily available. The only reason the Ninja was made was to facilitate training for a learner's licence. The same is the case for the newly launched KTM Duke 125.

    We might see a 250cc by Yamaha, but it is highly unlikely to be released in the R-series track form. Probably a Fazer/Fz oriented bike is possible. The technology on the R-bikes would take the prices up straightaway.
    D'oh!

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    • why not. don't say people don't have the dough. if they don't have the money why do yamaha sell the r1 in india. what i am saying is that if at all an r25 comes it will be an international launch. just like cbr. the cbr is not made for india ,but it will be made available in india. why couldn't yamaha ,like honda,build the r25 in india and export it to other countries from here. the production costs in europe is too much for even a company like yamaha to afford. there is one company called cagiva in europe. they build their bikes in plants outside europe and then import it and sell,just to cut down the production costs. as long as cheap labour is avalable in asian countries don't rule out the possibility of r25 to be made be available in india if at all it is released.
      superbikes are the biggest blunders on indian roads.

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      • Originally posted by ZeNashB View Post
        A 250cc bike in the R-series... will be way too flimsy for European and US consumers.
        eh... no. R125. flimsy? not!
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        • every body is speculating wildly. why should i hold back. i am expecting the new r15 to be a twin 150 cc,with two 74.5 cc cylinders working in tandem, bike that redlines at 12500. can any one get more wilder than this? isn't it an interesting concept. joel are you listening?
          Last edited by akhilmuraleedhar; 01-08-2011, 10:06 AM.
          superbikes are the biggest blunders on indian roads.

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          • Originally posted by akhilmuraleedhar View Post
            every body is speculating wildly. why should i hold back. i am expecting the new r15 to be a twin 150 cc,with two 74.5 cc cylinders working in tandem, bike that redlines at 12500. can any one get more wilder than this? isn't it an interesting concept. joel are you listening?
            Wow, THAT is wild.

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            • This thread pleads to be locked. With the Yamaha launch just a few weeks ahead, I guess this should be rather unlocked only then, or when someone has something concrete to post.
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              • Originally posted by akhilmuraleedhar View Post
                you are talking like a child. if kawasaki can make a twin 250 with 33 bhp ,why not yamaha.because the r25 will be a complete track tool ,its design will be such that it will perform far better than a ninja with similar bhp figures. that is what is called tuning.besides i dont know of any 250 cc sports(track) bike. the ninja,cbr etc are all dual purpose bikes. the r25 will definitely be an international bike for the simple reason that 250 cc markets are available in many countries. the r15 will not make any cut in the (say) US market. but a 250 twin will.

                You've misunderstood me dude, I am not saying that Yamaha is incapable of doing it, but hoping that they'll do it and be so sure of it like the company sent you prototype is a little OTT.

                If it happens which it'll not then we'll see. Till then try and be passionate about good bikes rather than companies. Don't be a fanboy man
                respect ma authoritae!!

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                  • Woah!!!! That's one amazing looking bike!!!
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                    • I personally don't dig it so much. It's just OK!

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                      • Couldnt resist myself from logging in and saying it awesome
                        RIP vinu,
                        You will be remembered forever!!

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                        • Looks hot alright! I think, this would replace the R15... (Hope the parts are swappable :P) I need a new rim

                          @akhil: OT - google for someone called fieoroid who made a v2 fiero :P
                          Even VenuGopal for that matter wanted to build a W3 version of it (don't know if he did, as he disappeared from xBhp)

                          PPs: I know who fieoroid is though.. Just playing..
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                          #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
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                          • Pillion comfort is done at the cost of rider's back; I like the rear & the alloy wheels of the older R15. Except for these two, all others are looking good.
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                            • Lol! And RIP that mechanic posing on the bike, and the one clicking it... Yamaha goes to (used to go to atleast) great extent to protect their secrets!
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                              #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                              #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
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                              #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
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                              • Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                                Lol! And RIP that mechanic posing on the bike, and the one clicking it... Yamaha goes to (used to go to atleast) great extent to protect their secrets!
                                ROFL ,


                                so when are they going to introduce this??
                                RIP vinu,
                                You will be remembered forever!!

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