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**kc_1602** · 09-22-2014, 07:44 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by .sushilkumar View Post

If they launch by Year end, that;s going to be a bummer for me. I am planning for this diwali .

i hope its launched for Diwali too! Both of them...but no official confirmation yet.

**Minisoda** · 09-24-2014, 12:57 AM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post

By paying Rs. 10,000 more you don't have to deal cold starts in winters. That's all FI is on a 200 cc bike.

Actually FI gives better throttle response than a carburetor and it also gives a better fuel to air mixture. It helps in reduced emissions as well as better efficiency among other things.

**Giftonsamuel** · 09-28-2014, 11:46 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by Minisoda View Post

Actually FI gives better throttle response than a carburetor and it also gives a better fuel to air mixture. It helps in reduced emissions as well as better efficiency among other things.

Fi has complex electronics and bajaj when mated with complex stuff will give more headache than all the above advantages

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Though with reliable Bosch Fi its not worth the risk with bajaj especially when you have a superb carb bike for lesser price .

**kusmaker** · 09-29-2014, 08:58 AM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Bajaj has already played once with FI and it prove to be nightmare for bajaj, but times are different now with ktm at there back and bosch supplying this gizmo one can hope that evrything will be in order this time, although carb ns is also quite rev friendly.

**avhad sitaram** · 09-30-2014, 12:10 AM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by kusmaker View Post

Bajaj has already played once with FI and it prove to be nightmare for bajaj, but times are different now with ktm at there back and bosch supplying this gizmo one can hope that evrything will be in order this time, although carb ns is also quite rev friendly.

@kusmakar buddy the problem with fi is not in the technology ,they are way superior than carb one in terms of top speed ,vibes , power delivery, better cold starting , reliability and mileage too.

sadly in india there are not too many competent mechs in ASC's also .

my apache fi done 50000 Kms without any trouble but once she had a problem regarding top speed she cant go above 100 ...i had to spend 5000 rupees to get the rid of that problem(problem was in fuel filter it was partialy blocked by sediments)
I had got no proper service in ahmednager ,aurangabad and even in pune,finaly a maruti suzuki mech and myself solve the issue ( 60 rupees fuel filter and showroom manager told us to change the complete fi system along with wiring harness 16000 INR.)

aftersale service to fi bike is more than nothing , thats the main problem of fi bikes.

**Cleaner** · 09-30-2014, 02:25 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Well, just for your info, Pulsar 200NS has the same ECU as some BMW cars, Bajaj is not making it, Bosch is, they are putting Motronic 0261 S09 series ECU, so reliability should not be a problem. Also, ECU can be repaired just like carbs, it just requires different set of skills (electrical skills), any mobile phone repair guy could fix it given the proper instructions. Also, chips are easily available online and so are tuning software. As FI bike becomes commonplace here in India, we will see a lot of ECU tuning software on the market, also, their official ECU diagnostic software may become "cracked" and available to public, just like what happened with Nokia and their service software. I do not support piracy and any other illegal activities, I'm merely pointing out how the future would be with FI bikes.

**avhad sitaram** · 09-30-2014, 11:49 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

That sounds good ..good enough

but my friend if someone have iphone and some problem occurs then where he go to rectify..???? Roadside shop..???

no way ..never hence ASC has the importance of its own..and thats the problem with fi bikes..read my post carefully and remember buddy grass is always greener on other side.
that day will come after fifty years when fi bikes can be repaired localy by roadside electricians.

**kusmaker** · 10-01-2014, 09:04 AM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by avhad sitaram View Post

@kusmakar buddy the problem with fi is not in the technology ,they are way superior than carb one in terms of top speed ,vibes , power delivery, better cold starting , reliability and mileage too.

sadly in india there are not too many competent mechs in ASC's also .

my apache fi done 50000 Kms without any trouble but once she had a problem regarding top speed she cant go above 100 ...i had to spend 5000 rupees to get the rid of that problem(problem was in fuel filter it was partialy blocked by sediments)
I had got no proper service in ahmednager ,aurangabad and even in pune,finaly a maruti suzuki mech and myself solve the issue ( 60 rupees fuel filter and showroom manager told us to change the complete fi system along with wiring harness 16000 INR.)

aftersale service to fi bike is more than nothing , thats the main problem of fi bikes.

Yor are absolutely right bro, that's what my point is, fi is not a problem, the problem only arises when some kind of problem arises within the fi, and we haven't got technicians to deal with it, as you have pointed out.

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That's one information [MENTION=61791]Cleaner[/MENTION], i think Bosch should open there own service centres all over India with all the Tuning softwares and reapirs to deal with the problems, no one will go to an roadside idiots for Fi reparing.

**lockhrt999** · 10-01-2014, 11:02 AM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by kusmaker View Post

That's one information @Cleaner, i think Bosch should open there own service centres all over India with all the Tuning softwares and reapirs to deal with the problems, no one will go to an roadside idiots for Fi reparing.

They already have service centers all over India dealing with FI.

**avhad sitaram** · 10-01-2014, 12:15 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post

They already have service centers all over India dealing with FI.

We need proper trained mechs in asc instead of number of authorised service centers or mechanics.

**lockhrt999** · 10-01-2014, 01:30 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by avhad sitaram View Post

We need proper trained mechs in asc instead of number of training centers or mechs.

Your statement is not sensible for India. Servicing the bike at ASC for such critical things is the worst thing you can do to the bike. ASC is a training ground for newbie mechanics. Once they become expert they open their own garage. Tell me, if you were offered a nice job at Google, US, would you not leave your current data entry job at Infosys? Asking Infosys to build a kickass search engine is not sensible.

If you want to get the work done on FI, go to the specialist who deal with FI.
If you want to get the work done on tyres, go to specialist, MRF or such showrooms.
If you want to get the work done on headlights, got to the automobile electrician.
So on and so forth.
Not only these people will charge you less but they will do a hundred times better job than ASC.

**Itzli** · 10-01-2014, 02:39 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Do you know of any specialist who will help put a FI unit on the 200ns in India??

**avhad sitaram** · 10-01-2014, 03:25 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post

Your statement is not sensible for India. Servicing the bike at ASC for such critical things is the worst thing you can do to the bike. ASC is a training ground for newbie mechanics. Once they become expert they open their own garage. Tell me, if you were offered a nice job at Google, US, would you not leave your current data entry job at Infosys? Asking Infosys to build a kickass search engine is not sensible.

If you want to get the work done on FI, go to the specialist who deal with FI.
If you want to get the work done on tyres, go to specialist, MRF or such showrooms.
If you want to get the work done on headlights, got to the automobile electrician.
So on and so forth.
Not only these people will charge you less but they will do a hundred times better job than ASC.

Dont punch on mere words ie completely useless in practicaly
..!!!
if you stuck on highways then you have to go to your specialistic ones with your vehicle loaded in tempo or truck for even a minor problem.

if you have plenty of time and vitamin m to spare go for fi . my best wishes are with you.

i have the ownership experience of fi bike more than five years. I know what happens in practicaly.

**lockhrt999** · 10-01-2014, 04:58 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by avhad sitaram View Post

if you have plenty of time and vitamin m to spare go for fi . my best wishes are with you.

i have the ownership experience of fi bike more than five years. I know what happens in practicaly.

You're mixing the posts. You talked about ASC and I replied for the same.

If you read my previous posts, you would understand I'm not an FI's biggest fan.

I think FI on a 200cc bike is a mere waste of money. In the poll above, I have voted for ABS only option.

With all advantages FI offers, reliability isn't one of them. I have utterly no idea why everyone thinks FI is more reliable. I think people mistaken sophistication for reliability. When something goes wrong with carb, most of the times it'll still work but with less efficiency but it does get the rider home. When something goes wrong with FI, most of times bike won't run at all, which you know already. It the same reason for why aviation industry avoids FI like plague in their propeller based engines. And mind you, aviation industry is more sensitive to fuel average than you and I can ever be but they still give more importance to reliability (it's synonym for 'safety' in aviation industry).

You mistook me for being a fan of FI merely because I replied to your post.

**avhad sitaram** · 10-01-2014, 05:39 PM

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post

You're mixing the posts. You talked about ASC and I replied for the same.

If you read my previous posts, you would understand I'm not an FI's biggest fan.

I think FI on a 200cc bike is a mere waste of money. In the poll above, I have voted for ABS only option.

With all advantages FI offers, reliability isn't one of them. I have utterly no idea why everyone thinks FI is more reliable. I think people mistaken sophistication for reliability. When something goes wrong with carb, most of the times it'll still work but with less efficiency but it does get the rider home. When something goes wrong with FI, most of times bike won't run at all, which you know already. It the same reason for why aviation industry avoids FI like plague in their propeller based engines. And mind you, aviation industry is more sensitive to fuel average than you and I can ever be but they still give more importance to reliability (it's synonym for 'safety' in aviation industry).

You mistook me for being a fan of FI merely because I replied to your post.

take it easy buddy we are here not to fight but only to discuss and give our thought sometimes may be lil bit agressively , i dont mind that ever coz i respect everyones views .
probabaly i am the biggest fan of fi bike , my bike odo read 57000+ but trust me its realy reliable even not a single false start occured during my usage of five years and mileage delivery is way superior than carb one in high speeds.

sadly indian bike manufacturing companies didnt pay attention to perfect train atleast few mechs all over the service centers prior the launching of such a high tech bikes.

thats why what happend to glamour fi,stunner fi,pulser 220 Fi,rtr 160 Fi. They are robust products compared to others but the service drag them into vain.

even in modern aviation industry unmanned aerial vehicle also prefer carb one coz they are repairable and reliable.

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