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**Rajat Bhanti** · 08-03-2013, 09:27 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

After looking closely on latest spy pics in which the girl is riding, i can assure that it's New Karizma R as engine block and meter console looks same as current model,just few modifications in styling.. even exhaust is same as current bike...Also lack of rear disc in a model further confirms that its a same 223cc Unit!

I should remind you that when the Pulsar 200 NS spy pics showed up on net, there also the NS wasn't with the rear disc brake. So, you never know what the company is upto. And if you don't believe me then you can google it.

**unicornwalla** · 08-03-2013, 11:56 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Reality Check:

The Passion Pro has the original CD100 derived Horizontal 97 cc engine
The Passion xPro has got the Honda Twister/Dream Yuga donated 110 cc Vertical engine

Ha yaar u have a point yaar

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**ravi@17bhp** · 08-04-2013, 02:55 AM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

I think you got it wrong again..

I never wanted them to upgrade the engine of Karizma.. let them sell it along side.. thats what I would love to see.. am just saying.. instead of replacing the new bike with karizma in the name of karizma.. they can name it something else and sell Karizma/ZMR along side.. so that people who love touring.. would go for Karizma.. and people who want a sporty version of Karizma can go for the facelifted bike with a bit more power to it.. hope you got what I am trying to say here..

I didn't get anything wrong. Read your previous post again.

We don't know if these upgrades are going to be placed in the market as new bikes or they would replace the existing models. But, both ZMR/ZMA needed proper facelift to keep them up to competition. I feel Hero is doing the right thing. The end to ZMA is nearing, after all its been there in the market without changes since 10 years, thats a lot. Sooner or later, its gonna happen.

**rreneav1987** · 08-04-2013, 10:13 AM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

I didn't get anything wrong. Read your previous post again.

We don't know if these upgrades are going to be placed in the market as new bikes or they would replace the existing models. But, both ZMR/ZMA needed proper facelift to keep them up to competition. I feel Hero is doing the right thing. The end to ZMA is nearing, after all its been there in the market without changes since 10 years, thats a lot. Sooner or later, its gonna happen.

Which means our current karizmas and zmrs arw gonna make a history like the yamaha rd350 and the rx series ;-) i aint selling my zmr ever.. :-)

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**ashwinprakas** · 08-04-2013, 10:31 AM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Which means our current karizmas and zmrs arw gonna make a history like the yamaha rd350 and the rx series ;-) i aint selling my zmr ever.. :-)

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History has been already made.

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**veryhiphop** · 08-04-2013, 11:36 AM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Reading a Interview of Mr. Pawan Munjal, MD - CEO of HM in Bike India this month edition...he has clearly mentioned that new bikes shall be launched in 2014....some existing models will be refereshes in current year....

and Motor Show in Noida to be held in Feb. 2014 will be big show for HM...

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**Satyamzma** · 08-04-2013, 12:04 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

As i said these spy pics are just styling and feature upgrade for current karizmas...we will be able to watch Ebr 250cc bikes in Feb 2014..

**abhi7013** · 08-04-2013, 06:49 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

As i said these spy pics are just styling and feature upgrade for current karizmas...we will be able to watch Ebr 250cc bikes in Feb 2014..

Yup. That's the only conclusion now. Finally we know that these spy pics are just facelifts. Confused if its good or bad

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**Ishan Sagar** · 08-04-2013, 07:13 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

How every one is so sure about its more then 200 cc it can also be Face-lift hero hunk or hero CBZ xtream on the theme of hero iginitor?

**rreneav1987** · 08-04-2013, 09:55 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by Ishan Sagar View Post

How every one is so sure about its more then 200 cc it can also be Face-lift hero hunk or hero CBZ xtream on the theme of hero iginitor?

The pic of the bike in which the lady was caught testing seems like a sub 200cc.. meaning it could be a replacement of the Hunk.. Now.. I don't think they are going to replace Xtreme as they are going to launch it as Thriller in the International Market.. This is just my point of view

but again.. like suspected.. the other 2 full faired bikes caught testing could be the facelift of ZMR/Karizma.. well.. only time can tell.. so lets wait and not expect too much

**jammbuster** · 08-05-2013, 09:35 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by Ishan Sagar View Post

How every one is so sure about its more then 200 cc it can also be Face-lift hero hunk or hero CBZ xtream on the theme of hero iginitor?

MAY BE.... all two wheeler manufactures are too good in consmetic changes

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**Adoksh** · 08-06-2013, 05:58 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

Even i am worried about rear seat height...is it going to be R15 rear then it will be all show and poor comfort..

Thats not true. The r15 rear is extremely comfortable.

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**rreneav1987** · 08-06-2013, 06:15 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by Adoksh View Post

Thats not true. The r15 rear is extremely comfortable.

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I would say it looks very odd.. and it is dangerous during heavy braking..

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**abhi7013** · 08-06-2013, 09:42 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by Adoksh View Post

Thats not true. The r15 rear is extremely comfortable.

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R15 rear extremely comfortable? I rode as pillion for about 107kms exact while doing a trip. The rear of an r15 would be the last of the places that I would wish to be. Not just looking odd, sitting on the seat is like a circus and maintening balance on hard acceleration and breaking would be difficult. Thars how I felt.

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**siddharthsure** · 08-06-2013, 09:49 PM

re: Hero 250 caught testing: xBhp News

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

R15 rear extremely comfortable? I rode as pillion for about 107kms exact while doing a trip. The rear of an r15 would be the last of the places that I would wish to be. Not just looking odd, sitting on the seat is like a circus and maintening balance on hard acceleration and breaking would be difficult. Thars how I felt.

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I guess he is talking about V1

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