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**ArnabC** · 05-30-2014, 01:22 AM

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Originally posted by Doga View Post

Now where has the sense of humour gone? How did you survive the 4 years of BE(you told me you were an IT guy?) without humour/sarcasm?

I survived well those 4 years but all gone bro in the another 4 yrs at IT.

But still trying to keep the sense of humour up.

Originally posted by Doga View Post

Btw I am looking at R25 as a possible upgrade so I'll keep on visiting this thread and post the odd non kosher comment, so Yammie fans please bear with me.

Don't worry...we've seen worse

Originally posted by Doga View Post

Oh and if I am made the head of yamaha then I'd do this :

1)Launch an inline 4 R400 or something which would be an absolutely uncompromised track oriented offering(May be to break the back and shoulders of all yammie fans out here who ride it each day on hour crater filled roads)
2) Launch the FZ-09 in India without delay.
3) Kneel down at the feet of Arun Jaitely to ease the draconian custom structure for imported bikes(which doesn't make sense at all, since unlike cars we don't have local players making higer cc bikes). So an R1 at 8-9 lacs. An R6 at around 6-7 lacs
4) Setup plants to manufacture the bigger bikes here, even if it doesn't make business sense.
5) Give xbhp members 50% discount on all purchases

None seems to be a good business move...except points 2 & 3...but still those points also are for dream eyeds...4th point is the best one here helping somehow the economy...but anyways dis is nt a business forum but a biker's...and as a noob rider my vote will go to you for electing you the IYM head...only if the points in your agenda are really implemented...

**ArnabC** · 05-30-2014, 09:26 AM

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Originally posted by harsh_66328 View Post

As shown in the picture , 6th gear 11krpm, wouldn't the bike max out at say 12k or 13k rpm? rather than touching the red line or rev limiter in the 6th gear. Because generally in most bikes , we hit the rev limiter in every gear except the 6th one. I may be wrong hence asking it.

See the bike will have its peak power at 12K RPM, as per the official tech specs. So it will not max out at 13K RPM. It may max out at 13.5 or 14K, completely my guess.

**DukeDey** · 05-30-2014, 01:11 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Originally posted by incipient View Post

Ok, so if a small 50cc moped can zig-zag through a set of cones placed 2 feet apart and a 160+ kg MotoGP bike can't do that, is it because the moped has got better handling?

My R15v2 has got great handling but i can't say its very maneuvarable in traffic (not that it concerns me), certainly not as good as say an RTR.

First thing first, apologies for dragging in such an old post but I do want to share my views on this.

Handling is not something that can be explained in one word or how one bike acts. It has a lot of aspects like flickability, stability, line holding ability, traffic maneuverability etc. A 1000cc superbike would feel really heavy and difficult to maneuver in traffic or less flickable while going slow compared to say a 150cc bike like r15. So, can we say that it is a bad handler? No it has been designed in a way that as and when the speed builds(high speed is what it is meant for in the first place) it feels lighter and it gets far more easier to lean into corners while also being more stable than its younger sibling. Its all in the way the chassis, supsension, tire etc has been tuned for a specific purpose. Even a moped can be a good handler but it might not be very stable, same way a superbike is a good handler but not as flickable.

Another example would be a duke 200 and r15 v2, both are light bikes and both do similar speeds. The duke is more flickable and almost as stable when dealing with high speed corners, but, it does not have the ability to hold on to its line as well as the baby supersport. This can be because of a shorter swingarm or something else, I am no expert. So can we say one is a better handler? No, its all subjective and how one likes his bike. A lot of mottorcycles out there are able handlers but in their own unique way, and this includes some big burly cruisers.

So the whole point of this post is to let everyone know that handling as a term can not be explained as such. It can mean different things to different people. An uncle would find a superbike a really bad handler on the other hand he'll be really confident astride his 50cc moped, on the other hand a speed junkie would boast about his R15's handling prowess and how well it is able to deal with corners but would wet his pants while taking the same corner on a moped doing even half the speed.

Ride safe!
Gaurav

**Ron Syl** · 05-30-2014, 03:30 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Originally posted by harsh_66328 View Post

As shown in the picture , 6th gear 11krpm, wouldn't the bike max out at say 12k or 13k rpm? rather than touching the red line or rev limiter in the 6th gear. Because generally in most bikes , we hit the rev limiter in every gear except the 6th one. I may be wrong hence asking it.

yes. the 6th gear does not hit the limiter easily. its usually there for cruising. but we are talking abt hitting the rev limiter they way we do in r15 and all. till 12k rpm the bike is having the required power after that its the road conditions and wind and your body positioning thats gonna help you hit that limiter. maybe not everytime, but when it does you will see yourself grinning inside the helmet

there is a proper procedure of getting that proper top end, i guess you know, so its gonna vary in time taken (to hit top end) if you rip all gears like a racer and if you are going easy in all gears and throttle full in last gear. you can get that top speed in the "ripp" part but might not hit it in the "easy" part.

**aditya_YZF-R15** · 05-30-2014, 04:05 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Originally posted by DukeDey View Post

Handling is not something that can be explained in one word or how one bike acts. It has a lot of aspects like flickability, stability, line holding ability, traffic maneuverability etc.

So the whole point of this post is to let everyone know that handling as a term can not be explained as such.

yep, precisely... :-)
said the same thing myself as well, earlier when the topic was being talked on.

**ArnabC** · 05-30-2014, 05:02 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post

yes. the 6th gear does not hit the limiter easily. its usually there for cruising. but we are talking abt hitting the rev limiter they way we do in r15 and all. till 12k rpm the bike is having the required power after that its the road conditions and wind and your body positioning thats gonna help you hit that limiter. maybe not everytime, but when it does you will see yourself grinning inside the helmet

there is a proper procedure of getting that proper top end, i guess you know, so its gonna vary in time taken (to hit top end) if you rip all gears like a racer and if you are going easy in all gears and throttle full in last gear. you can get that top speed in the "ripp" part but might not hit it in the "easy" part.

Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post

yep, precisely... :-)
said the same thing myself as well, earlier when the topic was being talked on.

Seems like full planning has been done in all our minds about how to redline the bike and can imagine the big grins inside our helmets.

**saquib3005** · 05-30-2014, 06:21 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Originally posted by ArnabC View Post

Seems like full planning has been done in all our minds about how to redline the bike and can imagine the big grins inside our helmets.

Half of the day first bugger(in your qoutes) keeps talking on whatsapp also of same thing.
Isiliye kehte hain us Dhondu ko JUST CHILL

**ArnabC** · 05-30-2014, 07:56 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Originally posted by saquib3005 View Post

Half of the day first bugger(in your qoutes) keeps talking on whatsapp also of same thing.
Isiliye kehte hain us Dhondu ko JUST CHILL

Ha ha ha!!! Now that's news... Dhondu...

**somen1984** · 05-31-2014, 08:44 AM

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Again a question and wait seems to be endless !!

When will Yamaha launch R25 I India????

**shv18** · 05-31-2014, 12:24 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Not sure if these videos have been already posted here, but just sharing close ups and sneaky preview of what we may expect out of R25's (rumoured) indian launch:

- YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ginhkEC1Hco

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

and

Yamaha YZF R25 revs engine sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGd-5Mi0Z_M

Yamaha YZF R25 able to revs till 14,000 RPM. This limiter higher than Ninja 250FI which's rev around 13,000RPM max. Iwanbanaran.com

Now please imagine the stock R25's muted sound getting pumped up by an Akrapovic or a Yoshi slip on, like in the case of a Ninja 250R:

Kawasaki Ninja 250r Yoshimura Exhaust Change Sound Check!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NQpv7AAAqc

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Cheers

**shv18** · 06-01-2014, 06:34 AM

Yamaha R25 Dyno run

Yamaha R25's first unofficial Dyno run indicating 32.26 HPs rear wheel:

Source: Movie - ULTRASPEED RACING

With official figures indicating a total output from the Yamaha P- Twin at 35 BHPs: if what this dyno run showing is true, then seems to me that the transmission losses on this vehicle is pretty less. May be for speed enthusiasts installing a Slip on like Akra, yoshi or Two brothers and a better flowed/ported head will release a further 2 - 3 HPs, taking it a notch closer to the total power output of a kawi 300R??

Then that will be something to look out for.

A generic Dyno run of a Kawi Ninja 300R done by a gentlemen with these figures at the rear wheel (No tune ups): Max HP: 34.45, Max Torque: 17.05

Cheers,

Kawasaki Ninja 300 - DYNO Run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dnoKOk6nYU

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**Legend Racer** · 06-01-2014, 01:15 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Dyno run

lets wait for price...

**Vignesh vnktrmn** · 06-01-2014, 07:48 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Dyno run

Just wish they hadn't bothered designing a subjective looking bike and stuck that gem of the engine into an r125 (With strengthened chassis and ride of course)!!!

**shv18** · 06-02-2014, 05:19 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Dyno run

Yamaha R25, Indonesia Official Yamaha R25 delivery to the first 100 customers.

Just sharing some pictures from the event which provides a lot of technical specifications of the bike, seating posture, engine dynamics, sensors, suspension travel, weight distribution etc.:

From the presentation it is pretty clear that Yamaha in a way has taken the Honda route for a street bike:

* Making an everyday sports bike with not too aggressive seating position.
* The R25 engine has a host of sensors and is a closed loop system unlike the R15 which was an open loop system. MAP, CKP, Lean Angle, coolant, oil pressure, O2 etc. are a few to name from the list.
* 50 - 50 weight distribution should provide one heck of a handling capabilities to the rider...
* Rear Mono Suspension
* The tire profile 110-70-17 and 140-70-17 means that Michelin/IRC/PSD pairs and others in that category should be easily swappable with the stock tires = under 10k cost for tire changes @13- 15k kms unlike the Metzelers for 390.
* 160-170 kmph (speedo indicated) should be easily doable on this vehicle.

Now all we have to do is eat, pray, love, beg and preach R25 to the Indian Yamaha counter part!!

Cheers,

**kuntalnag** · 06-02-2014, 07:07 PM

Re: Yamaha R25 Dyno run

The one thing it doesn't have which it should have is the Delta box chasis.
The M1 and R15: all cornering machines have Delta box chasis.

While referring it as Baby M1, Yamaha should have considered Delta Box atleast.

Nevermind, just waiting for a good ride impression.

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