Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

The very concept that 6th gear being overdrive is wrong. For a 5 speed vehicle, the 5th one can be the overdrive gear as well. All that matters is how the gears are spaced. In layman terms, how much RPM drops every time you up-shift.

For a 6 speed, that drop in RPM would be less, because there are more number of gears, hence the spacing is smaller. In a 5 speed, its comparatively larger.

All the benefits of a 6 speed will show up on a race track where you are looking forward to keep the RPM in the powerband all the time. Being in the powerband ensures best possible acceleration all the time. Also the motorcycle picks speed rapidly as long as the rider is capable of shifting swiftly.

On streets however, its better to have a torquee engine and lesser gears.

R15 V3 & FZ25 has similar power figures but the torque figures are different.

And HP is a product of Torque and RPM (Torque*RPM / 5252).

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

This is very true, when the load is more we will have to open the throttle more for the same particular rmp compared to stock. But with rider alone & without any uphill or wind blast, this effect will become negligible.
Unless we run with additional load, and more of uphill/low rpm throttling, it will end up in increased mileage in real scenario, reason being the fuel saved with less engine speed will be more compared to fuel spent with more more opening of throttle under these conditions. This is based on my personal experience.

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The brochure ..!!

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Guys, let's get back to the topic... We're going OT.
Last reply from my side, on technical terms here. To continue this discussion, kindly visit the Technical Jargons thread in the General Biking Discussion section.... Thanks all.

I was mostly referring to balanced change in gearing, not extreme ones. You drop 2-4 teeth from rear sprocket OR add 1 teeth to front sprocket, and the overgearing will be slight only, which is a noticeable change, but small anyhow.

Why should you run low on torque, specially on most Indian bikes? Torque is made by the engine, not by gears.
Instead, what practically happens is that the intelligent rider chooses a lower gear if needed, and the effect is completely negated.
I've done overgearing on my Pulsar 180 UG3 so I know how it feels. Its not that much of a difference, when re-gearing within limits.


Top speed does increase mostly, if there's enough space, as the power surge appears later on the speedometer, in an overgeared setup. For example, on Pulsar 180 UG3's fifth gear, the maximum power kicks in at 100 kmph (on speedo). On an overgeared setup, this power surge would happen at around 110-115 kmph or so.
Although, I agree that you need to have a longer stretch in a overgeared setup, and yes, it has its practical limitations....

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Has it reached showrooms..Any information on test rides and deliveries?

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Spoke with a Bangalore dealer today, vehicles expected only next week. So, deliveries may start from Feb end I guess.

KK

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Thank you for that info. Just spoke with a dealer in Chennai. They're reporting the same, by next Friday FZ25 is arriving in all dealerships.

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136000 on road for this machine in maharashtra...119553 ex showroom

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No single road test report so far by any auto journal ...strange !

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 launched at RS 119500/-

Price is bit on the expensive side for this motorcycle

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Yea seems like customers have to book blindly without knowing anything else apart from the price.

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In Bangalore dealers are hinting at 1.5 lakh on road price, which seems very expensive. If this being the case, I will not even test ride the bike.

KK

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Here is the price logic for r15s
ex showroom price - Rs.1.15 lakh (New delhi)
ex showroom price - Rs.1.18 lakh (Chennai)
on road price Rs.1.32 lakh (Chennai)
where as FZ25 ex showroom price Rs.1.19 lakh (New Delhi). So I hope the ex showroom price will be around Rs.1.24 Lakh and on road price will be around Rs. 1.34 - 1.37 lakh.

In Maharashtra, there is an additional tax called octroi. so the price in MH will be little higher than the price in other states.

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On road price of this is 1.30lakhs in Delhi.
Yesterday i called the setco yamaha they quote me this price.

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They maybe true. As you know, KA and KL have the highest taxes in the country.
On road price (OTR) = ex showroom + road tax + insurance + miscellaneous charges.

Tentative OTR price = 1,20,000 + (18% of 1,20,000) + 2500 (let's say you opted for zero dep insurance) + some miscellaneous charges = 1,45,000 rupees (ballpark).

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I feel the price is just about right with a little premium over TVS Apache200 for the Yamaha brand.

We're currently feeling the pinch only because Dominar 400 exists at that VFM price tag.

If we forget for a moment about the enticing Dominar launch, i guess many(cross-shopping) will go ahead and buy the FZ25 without doubts for that Yamaha brand and quality, IIRC the next product in their lineup is the R3 which is more than double the price.

So many like me who are having doubts whether to go ahead with FZ25, please let us wait a little more to know the media reviews and different perspectives, and then finally decide if it's worth the money.

Meanwhile, we will also know other niggles coming from the long-term owners of Dominar and how Bajaj handles them.

Cheers!