2009 Bajaj Pulsar 220 Discussion Thread - First Ride Impression at Post No. 514

[vipin_s]

'Fastest' ?

What is 'Fastest' according to Bajaj ?
0-60 kmph ? 0-100 kmph ? 0-top speed? top whack ? a quarter mile ?

PS : CNBC OD program says 132 as top whack for the new P220 (lower than initial claims -140+kmph).

[a.umesh]

FASTEST in all segments i guess..
0-60 in 3.8sec
0-100 in 11.3sec
and in 1/4 mile drag..
top end..

[Durvesh]

What is 'Fastest' according to Bajaj ?
0-60 kmph ? 0-100 kmph ? 0-top speed? top whack ? a quarter mile ?

PS : CNBC OD program says 132 as top whack for the new P220 (lower than initial claims -140+kmph).

hey dude.
if ur watching r15 top speed on the cnbc aawaj overdrive!!!!
than they say 150kmph

[threat2myself1]

cant believe any media reports...have to wait for it get out and then test it ourselves!!

[a.umesh]

150kmph may be, if we crouch on the tank..
don know how this p220 carb version will be..
anyone got test ride?

[a.umesh]

BUt accordin ta zig wheels, this is the quickest..
they never praised R-15 though..
check this pic once..

[vipin_s]

cant believe any media reports...have to wait for it get out and then test it ourselves!!

you are right brother...

One more important achievement by Bajaj engineers is that they have made P220 DTSi one of the most fuel efficient bike in India. ARAI itself certifies P220 DTSi fuel efficiency figure at 56 kmpl. I know ARAI figures are very close to reality, ARAI figure for ALTO is 18kmpl, I get 16 to 23 kmpl.

So Kudos to Bajaj RnD capablities.

[payeng]

What is 'Fastest' according to Bajaj ?
0-60 kmph ? 0-100 kmph ? 0-top speed? top whack ? a quarter mile ?

PS : CNBC OD program says 132 as top whack for the new P220 (lower than initial claims -140+kmph).

That 132 Topwhack was achieved in the Bajaj's Chakan Test Track and it's not mentioned that it is the top whack what the bike can achieve. 132 kmph top speed on a twisty test track means that it will do a bit more on straights.

Zigwheels had reported on their site that they got to test the bike on the Chakan test track and also on open Pune roads.. hence I believe the higher top speed figure of 138.5 kmph for them.

you are right brother...

One more important achievement by Bajaj engineers is that they have made P220 DTSi one of the most fuel efficient bike in India. ARAI itself certifies P220 DTSi fuel efficiency figure at 56 kmpl. I know ARAI figures are very close to reality, ARAI figure for ALTO is 18kmpl, I get 16 to 23 kmpl.

So Kudos to Bajaj RnD capablities.

I would be a bit skectical on the Fuel Efficiency figure.. 56 kmpl might be under ideal test conditions (like 100 plus kmpl quoted for some 100 cc bikes).. 35-40 kmpl under real life riding conditions (what I mostly get from my P220 Fi) is a more realistic fuel efficiency figure according to me. And the more one rips, the less will that figure would come down.

[Praful]

Not even 2 days and over 20,600 times this thread has been viewed!!!

The Pulsars sure do garner loads of attention!

Any news about the electricals? Is it still DC?

I wonder if there has been a reduction in the number of sensors for the Carb'ed version.

About the fuel efficiency I think its too bloated to believe, the real world figures will be a lot closer to what the current 200's give IMO!

[insanebiker]

I guess it would be DC only. Cos even the 150 and 180 's got DC electricals now.

[Aryan]

@Praful: Yes, the electricals are FULL DC. This has been mentioned in the press release too (a few pages back).

@a.umesh: Please do not discuss about lights in this thread. For that, there is a separate thread.

[Andante]

I actually managed to get a short test ride on the new 220DTSi yesterday from the AMD PBK. After testing the 220Fi a couple of times earlier, I have to say this new version is pretty good. (Yes, I've been looking at buying a new bike for a long time.)

From my short ride:
- Low RPM pull is quite good, though maybe not as good as an Fi
- Handling does seem a bit more composed, even with a pillion
- The engine generally sounds more relaxed (always thought that the FI sounded a little choked.)
- Engine refinement in the really low RPMs isn't as good as the Fi, but a little higher on the RPMs and it smooths out enough to be good.
- Once pushed into the higher RPMs it really comes to life, unfortunately no space to make a good high speed run.

Reliability should not be an issue, the older 220Fi has been through a long history of fixes and seems to have come to decent/good reliability. I have no doubt Bajaj has tried to keep this machine as reliable or better. (Carb would probably be a benefit here, since there's less electricals to bother with.) Ofcourse, ZMA originating from Honda will have great reliability, but again that can differ for everyone.

Fuel efficiency is indeed a doubt. But from what I have learned I think it should not be far behind the 220Fi or the ZMA. And ofcourse, everyone will tell you that FE depends a lot on the rider. And I don't think 220Fi or ZMA deliver extremely good FE anyway.

Just my little experience with this machine.

[niks_devil666]

I believe there is a change in the clutch ... so can this be fit in our bikes now?

[anvancy]

a local paper carried a sort of survey.many youngsters said that this bike is merely for show off and its speed is not suitable for indian roads.

many youngsters said that we do not need speed but fuel efficiency.(wth..200kmpl?)

this really makes a dent to a person who is into riding bikes.(what we call as biking.)
it also carried that the bike is carrying a "hefty tag".then what will these people say to the price of a ducati?? "chappar phadke??"

i have to say here not in terms of brand war but from a psychological part.
85% concept is since i go from A to B what i will always need is fuel efficiency.no speed.so i am happy if my bike goes 60kmph.or even less.i will then not hit cats cows hawkers pedistrians cars other bikes rickshaws trucks trailers tractors cycles other three wheelers and not least losing control and going into the field.
due to this main psychological behaviour HH is "ruling" the bike market in INDIA.kya karna itna speed ka??(is what is in their minds)economy is what we want.

the thrill is where i look.not how top this or that can go.i personally start looking when i step past 250-300cc.and thats where some indian bikes differ from the rest.its like each bike is unique.but some are not nice.even if they have a huge fan base following it.they are a disaster.

my hearty congrats to the Star Ahead Team.they are proper young just like we who need bikes to explore life.
the bullet is still in my wishlist.its an ultimate explorer.even the pulsar is.

but some things never change.

anvancy.

[augusta]

Has the functionality of the RVMs change, cause I guess they were a big problem in the Fi ?