2009 Bajaj Pulsar 220 Discussion Thread - First Ride Impression at Post No. 514

[Puneet1]

is there any discount on the leftover 200's now that its discontinued ?

[Praful]

Vyde gets balder very quickly in the middle giving it a square profile .
In the overall grip , I did not find it more grippier in the wet .... in dry it is definitely better

It gets bald'er coz its soft compound, more so for the centre coz that what you primarily end up using most of the time. The same bald'ing will happen if the Zapper C is a soft compound too.

The tyre is way way better when it comes to cornering, ridden my bike with both the tyres on the track and the difference is hugely evident!

Anyways, each to his own!

Today checked the chennai PBK the p220 carb came in with red & silver colour & one or two black colour, the td will be available by tommaro

Fantastic piece of news, I shall have a TD tommaro...

[niks_devil666]

It gets bald'er coz its soft compound, more so for the centre coz that what you primarily end up using most of the time. The same bald'ing will happen if the Zapper C is a soft compound too.
The tyre is way way better when it comes to cornering, ridden my bike with both the tyres on the track and the difference is hugely evident!

Yes , I understand that but I guess I did not have enuf time to test the Vyde properly , never went to smooth tarmac cornering places (read Mutha/Lavasa) and all I was doing was straights or abraisive tarmacs while cornering.

[mayuresh_w]

DTS i or DTS Fi?

I am interested in low and mid range torque and a crisp throttle response. I was pretty impressed with the 220 Dts Fi. How big is the difference in low end torque between the old and new models? can anyone please advice me on whether I should go for the pulsar 220 Dts-Fi or the new Dtsi?

From Zigwheels -

P220 DTS-Fi
0-60 - 4.76s
0-100 - 12.92s
0-120 - 24.62s

P220 DTS-i
0-60 - 3.8s
0-100 - 11.3s
0-120 - 27.1s

The 5th gear is really tall for it to reach higher top speed.

[Joel]

Met Varad last evening. He confirmed that that so called 138kph was achieved at the bajaj test track on a 1.6km full throttle blast. Thats 4 times a Q'tr mile. So if Varad who is 53 kilos rides it flat out for over 1.5kms and clocks 138kph, the figures cant get any better on streets with an average rider. period.

I'm wondering who gave bajaj the rights to say, its the fastest Indian produced motorcycle. The RD350 can go rings around the p220.

[pads]

Met Varad last evening. He confirmed that that so called 138kph was achieved at the bajaj test track on a 1.6km full throttle blast. Thats 4 times a Q'tr mile. So if Varad who is 53 kilos rides it flat out for over 1.5kms and clocks 138kph, the figures cant get any better on streets with an average rider. period.

I'm wondering who gave bajaj the rights to say, its the fastest Indian produced motorcycle. The RD350 can go rings around the p220.

138 ...... so wat abt 144....... n that too a rider of 53kgs ......... but the hype is working........

[Technician]

I have not seen any post here or anywhere in the past two years about making the existing DTS-Fi lighter by sheding extra weight, which has been the case with all the other bikes sold in India. Some tinkering here or there.

If somehow one could shed 8-9 kgs. especially in cycle parts' weight and with some tinkering with that big carb of 32 mm venturi plus some filter, another top 5-7 kmph might be extracted from this beast.

Also remember that heavy exhaust can which is reported to have a bigger and thus more restrictive convertor.

But all these are for future line of action only.

Another thing, is this DTSi is Euro-II or Euro-III. If it is Euro-II only right now, it will be short-lived upto April 2010 in its present form. Go, grab it before that.

OT, a comparison between a 140 kmph 70k P220 and 155 kmph reported 2.5 lakh Ninji is quite interesting. Kudos to Bajaj for P220 and Shame to Bajaj for so-far false promise of Ninji.

[Samy]

Met Varad last evening. He confirmed that that so called 138kph was achieved at the bajaj test track on a 1.6km full throttle blast. Thats 4 times a Q'tr mile. So if Varad who is 53 kilos rides it flat out for over 1.5kms and clocks 138kph, the figures cant get any better on streets with an average rider. period.

I'm wondering who gave bajaj the rights to say, its the fastest Indian produced motorcycle. The RD350 can go rings around the p220.

Fastest Indian motorcycle in production as RD350 is no more in production

[bprags]

Met Varad last evening. He confirmed that that so called 138kph was achieved at the bajaj test track on a 1.6km full throttle blast. Thats 4 times a Q'tr mile. So if Varad who is 53 kilos rides it flat out for over 1.5kms and clocks 138kph, the figures cant get any better on streets with an average rider. period.

I'm wondering who gave bajaj the rights to say, its the fastest Indian produced motorcycle. The RD350 can go rings around the p220.

I guess they meant the above highlighted part. I guess they were comparing themselves with TVS

[bprags]

Another thing, is this DTSi is Euro-II or Euro-III. If it is Euro-II only right now, it will be short-lived upto April 2010 in its present form. Go, grab it before that.

I recall reading that the DTSI engines coz of the twin spark plugs does not need cat con to meet the emission norms, but this latest 220 has a cat con

[Technocrat]

Met Varad last evening. He confirmed that that so called 138kph was achieved at the bajaj test track on a 1.6km full throttle blast. Thats 4 times a Q'tr mile. So if Varad who is 53 kilos rides it flat out for over 1.5kms and clocks 138kph, the figures cant get any better on streets with an average rider. period.

Joel I dont know if you have seen the Bajaj test Track But I have ridden on that track.

At the end of the straight there is a curve for which you need to slow down considerably but yes that's still more than a km of stretch, besides what would be interesting to know is whether he started right from the beginning of the straight or did he came riding in at some speed & then accelerated.

Anyways need to see the results when some one does a real time on road test with other bikes

[Aparajith]

I'm wondering who gave bajaj the rights to say, its the fastest Indian produced motorcycle. The RD350 can go rings around the p220.

For that matter, the RD350 will go rings around any damn motorcycle in India(unless its a monster like ur Fieroid)!!!

@Raghs: Yes, ur partly true. The Pulsar V1's never had a cat-con. All the V2, V2.1, UG3, UG4 - the ones with the exhaustec had/have a cat-con. In fact the 220 Fi did not have a cat - con while the 200 did. So, with the carb this bike must be having one. I think u know that the RTR has a cat-con while the RTR-Fi does not have one!

[vipin_s]

is there any discount on the leftover 200's now that its discontinued ?

Normally, companies launch new models only after 'vulnerable' bikes are sold off. I think many P200 are still in showrooms and the only way to sell it is to offer some discount (this happens only when sales become completely static).

[Technician]

The cat-con, FI, lean settings or for that matter any other technical details are not issue here. The issue is whether it is Euro-II or Euro-III.

Even with cat-con, bikes sold here are Euro-II only.

So, if it is with cat-con but a Euro-II only then you surely should expect either departure of this model w.e.f. April 2010; or addition of some other technology like FI in addition to cat-con to this particular model to make it Euro-III compliant. It is only 9 months away.

Though right now it is a great VFM either in comparison of present performance bikes or of any future debated remoured bikes {like Ninji, 300R, ZMA-FI..... or whatever}.

[Joel]

At the end of the straight there is a curve for which you need to slow down considerably but yes that's still more than a km of stretch, besides what would be interesting to know is whether he started right from the beginning of the straight or did he came riding in at some speed & then accelerated.

yes, he was already carrying speeds into the straight. It was definetely not a standing start from the beginning of the straight. That was only for thr 0-60 and 0-100 figs.

Bajaj calls a bike which is some 5-6kph faster than the closest stock competitor the fastest Indian and stuff. Buggers have not even come close to 100mph to be called fast.
The under-bone 125 and 150cc bikes from indo and thai can screw the p220.
When will somebody make some really fast bikes. Bikes that can scare when you crack the throttle.