its a good news that GT250R is finally coming to india.

we all know that it looks much bigger than other two 250 CC's available ..and much similar to GT650R. but is it exactly similar in dimensions to 650 or slightly smaller, and do they share the same chasis, or different.

some of the online reviews gave it a thumbs down, waiting for a lunch so that someone from xbhp may review it.

btw, 2-2.5 lacs is too much, pricing should be done considering the brand value too. i think it does not have an ABS. according to me if it is priced at something like 1.5 lacs on road, combined with some attractive finance options, it will sell like hot cakes. but that seems impossible as of now.

its almost same size as its brother, chasis is different.
regarding price .. even cbr u can't get @ that price .. so its useless to expect imported bike at that price point.. if its 2-2.5 OTR it will be big steal .. there is not much -ve review for 2010 onward bikes .. its almost as same as other two.
only thing matters is service and in B'lore i heard its good .. so even if they price 2.5 i might go for it.. as it matches my requirements

I was under the impression (and hoping) that Hyosung would have more torque and power than CBR250R.

Hyosung GT250R:
Max Power: 26.27 bhp (19.6kW) / @10,000RPM
Max Torque: 21.04Nm / @6,750RPM

Honda CBR 250R:
Maximum power: 26. 2 bhp (18.7 kilowatts) @8500 rpm (95/1/EC)
Maximum Torque: 22.9 Nm @7,000 rpm (95/1/EC)

So, it looks like CBR250R has same power at 1500 lesser RPMs and about 2NM extra torque at almost same RPM.

Will the extra cylinder in Hyosung make any difference to compensate for this?

my wild guess is that .. they [garware] took consideration of fuel efficiency in to account. OR worst case it could be carb version and not the FI

Corrections:
Ninja 250R :
Max Power: 32.5 Bhp (24 kW) @11000 RPM
Max Torque: 22 Nm / @8200 RPM
Source: Kawasaki India : Ninja 250R

Hyosung GT250R:
Max Power: 28.8 Bhp (21.5 kW) @10000 RPM
Max Torque: 22.68 Nm @6750 RPM

Source: Hyosung UK : GT250R

Honda CBR 250R:
Maximum power: 25 Bhp (18.7 kW) @8500 rpm
Maximum Torque: 22.9 Nm @7000 rpm

Source : Honda India : CBR250R

In effect, it is not bad if they bring the UK spec machine. Because that one definitely slots neatly between the other two 250s. If however, they detune it the way they shamelessly detuned the GT650R reducing peak power by 12% as compared to UK specs, the GT250R stops making any sense.

Now those figures do look better and put Hyosung neatly between Honda and Ninja.

If they detune the specs given above, then I hope they detune the price also accordingly.

It is still too early to discuss torque figures. Its not going to be a long wait before the official India specs show up. I doubt if the de-tuning with the 250 will be as harsh as they did with the 650's

Although its a 8-valve v-twin config producing decent torque at low revs, all that weight is going to play spoil sport....

Imagine a small sized elephant trying to run a 100m sprint wearing limited edition Jordans?
If only Hyo had invested some R&D time in shedding some weight off the 2012 250's, it would've been a delicious recipe.

Wise comparo there

Believe it or not, me not being a big fan of Hyosung, this 250R is really grabbing my attention. For the most part, V-twins always have a slightly better edge when it comes to torque, than a same spec single cylinder one. Although my guess is that, this 250R is tuned, for the most part for city use, and it being a twin, can produce some good low end torque.

As always, any bike imported for India, you have to take a lot into consideration when you're planning to make a bike available for masses, so that's when all the "stripping effect" comes into place.

Let's wait, obviously there is gonna be a review! And then people can decide.

Cheers!
VJ

De-tune engine can be Re-Tune that's not the concern however Carb or EFI is something that I am worried about

ROFL... ..Superlike

why they waste money on R&D when bike is selling in good

same here mate.. actually the specs given closely matches with Carb version.. so that's what worries me

Have you noticed that it is 19.6KW@ 10,000 rpms against the Australian spec 21KW@10,500 rpms ???

The last thing I wud like to hear about this bike that it gets this foolish detune from the CDI just to foster the fuel-efficiency...........that wud be unnecessary.

Honda CBR250 Vs Ninja250 Vs hyosung GT250R

regarding the price, what matters is whether it is manufactured in india or imported either as CBU or CKD, based on that price will be fixed, however i was talking from the point of brand value which is definitely lower than Honda or kawasaki.

there is no way that an un-detuned version be sold here. it will definitely be a detuned version. how much they detune is a question mark?

your wish is also my wish and so as lot of others, but in all possibility it won't be fullfilled.

exactly even though it has more power than CBR, it also has more weight.

How exactly can you re-tune a de-tuned engine?? its not as simple as tuning a carbeurator. can u re-tune the de-tuned CBR available in india as compared to thi version. its possible but very difficult and involves cost.


ok, so guys to see the online reviews and comparisons, check the following three links ---

Honda CBR250R vs. Hyosung GT250R vs. Kawasaki Ninja 250R | MC Comparison - Motorcyclist Magazine

Kawasaki Ninja 250R, Honda CBR250R & Hyosung GT250R | 250cc Comparison Test - Sport Rider Magazine

2011 250cc Beginner Bike Shootout - Motorcycle.com

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while all the comparisons between hyosung, honda & kawacker have different opinions, it can be sumed up as--


Looks:- While Honda CBR250 and Ninja250 are similr sized, Hyosung GT250R is much bigger and therefore looks like a bigger CC bike. CBR250's design looks more futuristic and in line with current trend, while Ninja looks dated and old design. so looks wise it is -

1. Hyosung GT250R
2. Honda CBR250R
3. Kawasaki Ninja250

Fit & Finish:- The fit & finish of Hyosung is defintely not at par with CBR or Ninja. Gaps in fairing panels and exposed electronics among others make it lowest in fit and finish. In my opinion the rest two are almost equal. so that makes-

1. CBR250 & Ninja250
2. Hyosung 250

Features and gadgetry:- Lack of any optional features makes Ninja the last among three and coupled with a analog instrument cluster makes it look like something from last decade. Hyosung on the other hand has a comprehensive list of features apart from digital speedo, like- three-position adjustable rearsets, a reach-adjustable front brake lever, a brightness-adjustable digital dash, an inverted fork, dual front disc brakes. this makes it top the list. CBR stands in-between with digital dash and optional ABS.

1. Hyosung 250
2. CBR 250
3. Ninja 250

Ride and Comfort:- Hyosung 250 has an archetypal attack type riding stance with clip-on handle bars too far makes its stance more sportier then any other, couple with a bit cramped leg space and widest body makes it least comfortable of the three. however if you want that big bike feel with sporty and most forward inclined stance, go for it. CBR is the most comfortable of the lot with easy to reach handle bars and foot peg position coupled with a suspension set-up which is a bit on soft side, so even bad roads is not a problem. most comfy for long tours. Ninja 250 also has a similar stance as CBR250 but suspension set-up is inclined towards harder, making it a bit a bit back-breaking on broken roads. now the wind protection factor, because of a racing attack type of riding stance in hyosung, you are well protected from wind blast at high speeds by windsheild, this is not the case in CBR250 or Ninja250 wherein you have to tuck-in to benifit from windshield. however protection from wind blast is not enough to make Hyosung fare any better, it still is at the bottom of list due to riding stance.

1. CBR 250
2. Ninja 250
3. Hyosung 250

Handling:- Again, due to heavy weight, longest wheelbase and widest body (riders legs are spread too wide), Hyosung comes last in handling department.

Among the rest two i.e. CBR 250 and Ninja 250, different online reviews have different opinions, some feel both are equal some feel CBR is better, while most feel kwacker is better. so, i will go with what most people feel, coupled with the fact Ninja also have a hard suspension set-up compared to CBR, makes Ninja top the chart in handling department. however CBR comes a close second. One thing to note is due to its longest wheelbase, more weight coupled with riding stance, hyosung is most stable on highway in a straight line at high speeds and also in cross-winds. however a sudden pothole encoutered on stright line at high speeds unsettles the hyosung's line a little bit more than other two.

1. Ninja 250
2. CBR 250
3. Hyosung 250

Engine Refinement & Vibrations:- Ninja 250 tops the chart with its age old, robust, tried and tested and proven engine. CBR's single cylinder is obviously a bit more vibey than ninja's inline-twin. Hyosung with a notchy gearbox comes last. Hyosung also does not have water-cooled enigine, which also means less efficient dessipation of heat, which may, i repeat MAY affect engine life and reliability.

1. Ninja 250
2. CBR 250
3. Hyosung 250

Fuel Efficiency:-

1. CBR250
2. Hyosung 250
3. Ninja 250

Brakes:- Inspite of having a dual-disk brakes upfront, Hyosung lacks bite and feel, both, making it last in the rankings, Ninja brakes are sharp and efficient. CBR makes it quite interesting with ABS thrown in as optional. so ranking are -

1. CBR 250 ABS
2. Ninja 250
3. CBR 250 STD
4. Hyosung 250

Power & Performance:- All the bikes have different charecters here, with Ninja & Hyosung having somewhat similar manners, while CBR with its single cyliner layout is different than other two. Ninja makes most power in terms of BHP and least torque while CBR makes most torque and least power whereas Hyosung stands in between both in terms of power and torque. obviously due to its torque CBR is very strong in low and mid range, a slight twist of wrist sends it shooting ahead at traffic lights, it is strong in low and midrange but looses out in top -end. Ninja 250 with its more power and less torque is strong in top-end and the rider has to do some effort in low and midrange to make it sprint, obviously due to low torque figures and also the fact that both peak torque and peak power is available at higher RPM's, so it means it requires some effort on throttle and clutch to make it sprint in low and mid range, but if you take the effort it will obey you without any fuss, just keep the revs high. hyosung also has a similar character its V-twin engine is more happy at high RPM's than low RPM's and to meet the performance of other two bikes in low and midrange, it requires a lot of throttle movement, but if you do it, it will follow your commands. in top-end or highway crusing mode, the twin cylinder engines of Hyosung and Ninja easily outperforms the CBR with Ninja winning it and Hyosung coming second. at speeds more than say 115KMPH, CBR's power delivery starts to taper out and it feels like engine is overworked, whereas Hyosung 250 and Ninja250 is happy even at speeds of 130-140 KMPH. obviously Ninja250 tops in top speed chart with Hyosung 250 coming second and CBR last. the performance category ratings will be divided into two sub-categories-


Low and Mid range:- Although all the bikes post similar 0-60 KMPH figures with only a difference of 0.2 to 0.4 secs, and although Ninja is quickest of the lot with just a fraction of second, still it comes second because of the fact that it requires lot of revving and effort on clutch, throttle and gear levers, while CBR is so effortless that you won't feel it, whereas Hyosung with its heavy weight comes last-

1. CBR250
2. Ninja250
3. Hyosung 250

Top-end:- The ninja is clearly a winner here with its high rev-limit and highest top-speed coupled with in-line twin cylinder layout that churns max power and max torque at much higher RPM's. Hyosung with its V-twin engine comes second with its high revving engine thats happy at higher RPM's. obviously CBR with its single cylinder layout, comes last as it feels overworked at high speeds and has a lesser top-speed compared to other two. Again it should be kept in mind that 0-100 KMPH figures of all these bikes are within 0.9 secs of each other.

1. Ninja250
2. Hyosung 250
3. CBR 250

Service Network:-

1. CBR 250 & Ninja 250
2. Hyosung 250

Spare Part Costs:-

1. CBR 250 (Cheapest)
2. Hyosung 250
3. Ninja 250 (Costliest)

Above is my opinion based on online reviews and comparisons.

there is no argument on your view.. its almost true.
now only thing need to see is hw good the Indian version will fare against.
as u might know .. in each market the GT have some different tyres and break setup, ex: in Aus it has Dunlop tyres where in US it has Shinko [something like]

i Wish in I-GTR it should have MRF and bybree brake setup.. which can make things ever better + price reduction

I did some research of web and found that post 2010 they are selling EFI models only but I may be wrong it's matter of few days lets wait and watch...

Mate you asked a question and answered it yourself only... as I mentioned critical aspect would be if it's going to be a Carb version or EFI...

OT, does any1 know the logic behind using after market exhaust systems for V twin engines??? It's been widely written over places that's Aluminum or Titanium systems are better suited than Carbon one when it comes to V Twin's

The logic is same as why anyone would pop an aftermarket end-can on an inline four. Minor HP gain and sweeter soundtrack.

It is also very accurate that CF exhausts are not recommended for v-twins. If low on budget - go for aluminium, if you have extra dough - titanium.