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  • Originally posted by anirudh fz1 View Post
    wat hero honda oil in a superbike
    i dont think that oil is designed for a cbr
    Yes dude, HH oil in sbk. As long as it's working fine with it and matching all the criteria and serving well, does this really matter? And this oil will only be used for 550km as the servicing is due at 1000km. He looked for HH oil made by Idemitsu as well as Tide water. But those two are currently not available in Kolkata.

    Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post
    1: You got a bigger bike but a messy garage uh..ah.. don't like that attitude treating a one of the favorite bike in the world.
    Originally posted by nabendubasu View Post
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    As ace hunter said your garage is all messed up and your beauty is lying there and i can see some dirt on your beauty too.


    Originally posted by v_310 View Post
    10w30 - the best (and easily available) oils are the castrol power 1 racing (650/lit) or the petronas sprinta (500/lit) or motul 300v FL (800/lit). All prices are approx
    Originally posted by v_310 View Post
    ^^ castrol P1R is exactly 10w30. Motul is 5W40 and am not sure about petronas.
    Originally posted by anirudh fz1 View Post
    i dont think that oil is designed for a cbr; atleast use shell advance or power1
    It is advisable to use only mineral oil in the blade. All those you have mentioned are either semi synthetic or fully synthetic.

    Originally posted by rossiter View Post
    As for the oil, use any standard mineral oil man. Toss the grade and the ultra special
    "6000/litre" oil ideas out the window. If the HH oil works for you, go for it.
    +100.
    Completely agree with Akhil sir.
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    • phew......glad its fine now. Although Rossiters comments keep me thinking.
      Yeah man...get on one of the CBR forums and snoop around. Plenty of knowledge. This 6000 Rs a liter oil thing is a rip off for sure. I get a complete oil change on my R6 for like 10-15 $. And its usually Yamalube. So i am sure this Honda oil is no different. Also, it is recommended to use synthetic oil after about 4000 miles. So stick to the mineral oil for now. Again...the CBR forum should shed light on this issue too.

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      • Originally posted by rossiter;
        Although I've no clue as to how the power dropped suddenly, I'm not quite sure how a loose connector can be the culprit. If it was the loose connector, that injector would not have worked [U
        at all[/U] and you'd have gotten an error code instantly. I'm sure even the Blade's ECU is designed to throw out error codes, and has a self diag feature as well.

        The low voltage theory is also not sitting well with me. A loose connector will not transmit low voltage, it just won't transmit any voltage at all.

        As for the oil, use any standard mineral oil man. Toss the grade and the ultra special
        "6000/litre" oil ideas out the window. If the HH oil works for you, go for it.

        Keep the rubber side down, and get some good gear. If you need any info, ask around, there is plenty of help on this forum.
        Great to know that the Blade is back in action again. Congrats Vishal.

        @Rossiter: loose connectors can be misleading in such low voltage circuits. Even a hint of carbon across the contacts lowers the conductivity drastically because of the low potential difference. The same would not make any difference at a higher voltage.

        But I do agree at taking such a diagnosis with a pinch of salt. Sudden unexplained power drop in a new flagship bike is a serious thing. And if it is just because of a loose connector then there is all the more reason to be concerned about the PDI inefficiency.

        Agree 100% about the oil thing. Synthetics do not necessarily make oils more suitable for high performance engines.
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        • 6000 per liter........

          man if you'l be changing your oil 4 times a year then for the price of tht you can buy P180 every year.......
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          • just out of curiosity i wanted to know that will honda be flying its mechs to kolkata everytime there is a problem & service required for free or they will start charging after a few set free service like you have in cars & bikes, if they do start charging how much do u guys expect the charges to be.
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            • Holy Crap

              Congrats Dude

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              • @ Fireblah- Did you get your bike registered? If yes, approximately how much did that cost you?
                You get the point?? :D
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                • Originally posted by v_310 View Post
                  ^^ castrol P1R is exactly 10w30.
                  No it is not. CP1R is 10W40 FYI.
                  When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                  • @Fireblah: FYI, Mr. Rossiter's R1 is fed the very same 20W40 Yamalube that an R15 is recommended
                    Ditch the grade and plonk for a good mineral 20W40 oil. Im sure rossiter/OF/Sunny would be happy to suggest a brand.
                    And all this would come at 180 odd a litre...
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                    • The R1's manual recommends either 10W-30 or 20W-40. You need to select oil as per the weather in your area at a given time. In hotter climates, go for 20W-50. In winter go for 20W-40 or 10W-30 (if it gets really cold there).

                      How cold does it get in winter there? Oil loses its viscosity in summer (outside temp + engine temp = a lot!) hence, you need to use a thicker oil. The 10W-30 would be according to Japan. Don't just go blindly by the manual. Most manuals also have a chart that tells you to go by weather.

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                      • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                        6000 per liter........

                        man if you'l be changing your oil 4 times a year then for the price of tht you can buy P180 every year.......
                        Lol, you are right ! even though they said its good for 10000 kms.

                        @ rossiter: You are right, I am too not able to digest all of what happened. In today's age of digital technology, either something is "on" , or "off" , there is no middle "loose" thing. I have posted the problem in fireblades.org forum too, various replies have come, including a possible problem of battery...
                        hope everything is allright.

                        @carlitos, others: i agree that 6000 for a litre is a rip off. I am on a constant look out for alternatives. Discovered something given on the manual like Bladerunner said... so maybe we can also put 10w40 in it, will have more options

                        Originally posted by Old Fox View Post
                        Great to know that the Blade is back in action again. Congrats Vishal.

                        But I do agree at taking such a diagnosis with a pinch of salt. Sudden unexplained power drop in a new flagship bike is a serious thing. And if it is just because of a loose connector then there is all the more reason to be concerned about the PDI inefficiency.

                        Agree 100% about the oil thing. Synthetics do not necessarily make oils more suitable for high performance engines.
                        Thank you Sandeep ji... i wanted to thank you for making me feel better about the bike. when i called you , i was so so so worried. But later even honda tech. said that nothing happens to these engines, as being in india, we just cannot push the engine hard enough to cause any serious damage to them..

                        @ Raoul Black: yeah i think so , 2 years warranty or till 32000 kms , which ever earlier
                        honda guy was saying in japan they dont even give a one day warranty... dunno if he was jokin or serious...

                        @svjhonda: The bike was officialy registered yesterday. I think it cost around Rs 7000 odd for the process.
                        Now only a nice number plate ......

                        Here is a page from the manual which suggests I can put 10w40 in th ebike as well..... as bladerunner rightly said...




                        and sorry for not replying yesterday, internet trouble.
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                        • ^^The guy who told you about the 'NO warranty in Japan' news was most certainly lying/JOKING man. Think about it. No person is gonna put his investment on the line without any kinda assurance from the manufacturer.

                          For your oil dilemma, you could probably try the 20W40 Yamalube itself or probably the Honda badged Idemitsu stuff...
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                          • Originally posted by fireblah View Post
                            honda guy was saying in japan they dont even give a one day warranty... dunno if he was jokin or serious...
                            Im Sure they where Kidding ..I guess he was making you feel better by telling that atleast we have got here 2 years warranty so no need to worry..!!

                            Originally posted by fireblah View Post
                            The bike was officialy registered yesterday. I think it cost around Rs 7000 odd for the process.
                            Now only a nice number plate ......
                            Thats good to know that you have got it registered..!! I suggest you to to go for the Embossed Number Plates..!! They look good..

                            Regarding Engine oil i guess you must go with the Honda guys itself..but yeah it doesnt mean you have to put that 6000 K oil..but ask them for alternative oil which is available for lot more cheaper than it..!! I suggest you this because the bike is under warranty and so go according to their recommendation..!!

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                            • From the chart it looks that for our climatic conditions 10W40 should be preferred over 10W30.
                              Vishal, You will also have to see what is available in Kolkata. Don't worry. If you seriously don't wanna go for that 6000INR/liter oil, we will give her the best mineral oil available in whole Kolkata. There are several good mineral oils available from the Motul stable also.

                              @ Maverick, HH by idimitsu is not available in Kolkata. But I guess we will get the one made by Tide water.

                              Originally posted by abhishek.murdeshwar View Post
                              Regarding Engine oil i guess you must go with the Honda guys itself..but yeah it doesnt mean you have to put that 6000 K oil..but ask them for alternative oil which is available for lot more cheaper than it..!! I suggest you this because the bike is under warranty and so go according to their recommendation..!!
                              Completely agree with you. In case they say that warranty is void, Fireblah will be in trouble. I mean so far the Honda guys are so good. I too feel he should not do anything against the Honda guys.
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                              • Firstly, congrats on getting one stunning machine fireblah. I saw your query on fireblades forum while browsing(nice place to browse eh?). Felt damn good to see 'India' in the location slot! Brought a smile to my face.

                                Keep an eye the oil level. Some of the 08 blades burn oil. Check the sticky in the forum.

                                Good luck and have fun!

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