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  • #91
    Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
    Hence even with basic chambers like Proton people feel better performance.
    thanks for the info sir!!
    Rx is a Phoenix!!! It always rise from ashes!!

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    • #92
      Originally posted by karthikdattag
      Enjoy the pics. Note the chamber design, everything from Bend Pipe, to belly, to tail has been re-designed for the latest port timing. Even the tail piece opening (at the end) was enlarged at my request as i prefer more 'Bassy' sound than sharpness.

      Well the old chamber was not giving me the power at higher RPMs.

      Next up,

      1. '55K' series Malaysian RX-Z 6-Speed Carburettor - VM26
      2. Complete new Ignition System

      Oh yes, the side panels are brand new as the older ones had lost some charm & also cracked a bit.
      that pipe look great, low/ mid pipe right ?

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      • #93
        EC is looking great Karthik! Looks more like a Proton

        Whats the difference between the EC you were using before and the new one?

        Whats the complete new ignition system on your RX?

        Would love to know the details

        Cheers!!
        ONLY GOD WILL JUDGE ME

        Suzuki Shogun (1994)
        Yamaha RX135 5-SPEED (1996)
        Yamaha RX135 (1997)
        Yamaha RXZ 5-SPEED (1997)
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        • #94
          Originally posted by karthikdattag
          Enjoy the pics. Note the chamber design, everything from Bend Pipe, to belly, to tail has been re-designed for the latest port timing. Even the tail piece opening (at the end) was enlarged at my request as i prefer more 'Bassy' sound than sharpness.

          Well the old chamber was not giving me the power at higher RPMs.

          Next up,

          1. '55K' series Malaysian RX-Z 6-Speed Carburettor - VM26
          2. Complete new Ignition System

          Oh yes, the side panels are brand new as the older ones had lost some charm & also cracked a bit.
          Karthik, beautiful chamber there. Kannan is known for doing such work. RD gu similar setup madisbidi, just my thought.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by karthikdattag

            Not necessarily, you will go nuts when you find out the jettings we run on our machines & still perform. Thats the beauty with Porting.
            I dont mean to question you but doesnt porting mean an inreased flow thru the ports which in turn will mean an increased need of fuel? To my knowledge thats when upjetting is required . Also are you on a stock airfilter?
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            • #96
              Originally posted by karthikdattag
              No problem doc.

              Let me ask you a simple question, we all know that a 4-speed bore is rated at 12BHP & the 5-speed bore at 14BHP, then why reduced jetting & smaller carb for 5-speeder?

              4-Speed: '4TL 01' with Main Jet = 165 & Pilot Jet = 17.5....... VM22
              5-Speed: '4TL4 20' with Main Jet = 135 & Pilot Jet = 15.0...... VM20


              Any answers for this? Dont you think with bigger exhaust & transfer ports the 5-speeder should be using something like 185 or 190 MJ !!!!!!. But why 135 MJ???

              Answer another question of mine, how many tuners have you come across who modify the Inlet (reed housing) and also tranfer ports as a routine job for stage 3 mods & make the bike actually perform & also give a warranty of 20,000Kms? Be honest.


              Just sharing some funny moments below (OT):

              There was once this guy (quite famous) who runs Baleno & Esteems for drags had come to a practice run on his so called beefed up 1600cc Baleno & when he looked at our 135, he said "Does this thing even do a 100?". We had a friendly drag & the guy was just silenced by the scream of 2-stroke single cylinder all of 150cc!!!!!! He took a oath never to drag against an RX.
              As you know coming from a nontech. background im a bit slow in understanding a few things so i tend to ask a lot and try to learn from others knowledge and experiences.

              your Q. about the 5sp. using smaller jets is right and definitely made me thinking. I think each engines carburetion depends on its own internal design and configuration and cant be compared to another. The Shogun uses 100 mains but is faster than a RX100. What do you say? Let me know you opinion and answer to my earlier post.
              So is your 5sp. running on stock 135 mains and filter?

              The 20k kms. warranty is way too good for a modded engine. Id consider myself lucky if i even get it on a stock engine these days!

              Haha! the guy you had a drag with must surely be an amateur or atleast he must be new to bikes, atleast RX. What was his vehicle?
              1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
              1989 Ki-Honda 110
              1994 Suzuki Shogun
              1997 Yamaha RX135
              2008 Yamaha FZ
              Suzuki Supra Powerup
              IND-SUZUKI AX100
              Hero IMPULSE
              TVS NTORQ


              No Cams, No Valves, No Headaches.

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              • #97
                what still remains unanswered is your 5 speeder uses stock jets and filter?

                I was just giving a referencse and not comparing the Shogun. Yes the 4sp and 5sp. are similar but do people use the 135 MJ on when they mount the 4sp. carb on the 5speed?
                1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
                1989 Ki-Honda 110
                1994 Suzuki Shogun
                1997 Yamaha RX135
                2008 Yamaha FZ
                Suzuki Supra Powerup
                IND-SUZUKI AX100
                Hero IMPULSE
                TVS NTORQ


                No Cams, No Valves, No Headaches.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
                  what still remains unanswered is your 5 speeder uses stock jets and filter?

                  I was just giving a referencse and not comparing the Shogun. Yes the 4sp and 5sp. are similar but do people use the 135 MJ on when they mount the 4sp. carb on the 5speed?
                  My Green 5-Speed:

                  MJ : 145
                  PJ : 22.5
                  Carb : VM26
                  Bore : 4TL10
                  Sproketing : 16T/36T
                  Gearbox : 5-Speed Custom


                  My Black 5-Speed:

                  MJ : 165
                  PJ: 20
                  Carb : VM22
                  Bore : 4TL00
                  Sproketing : 15T/34T
                  Gearbox : 5-Speed Custom

                  This will be revised again when i use VM26.

                  Note: Both the setup are using OE multi-coloured foam air filter.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by karthikdattag

                    Our drag set bikes Indeed uses TM34 or TM36 carbs, with fully blown Barrels with matching Chambers & most importantly it is the Ignition itself which makes the motor so hungry. And yes, as a food it is given an aviation turbine fuel (ATF) & not normal petrol from BPCL or HPCL outlets. Hence it makes sense to use such a setup on a machine whose exit speed is more than 150Kmph within a distance of 400mts. Race after race my tuner keeps doing it (many other respectable tuners in B'lore also included), please refer APMSC website for more details.

                    .
                    the fuel used in most of these high strung engines is aviation gasoline (av gas with about 100 octane or so) not ATF ,atf is normally used in jet engines and will not work in reciprocating engines also its bpcl hpcl and ioc that supplies these but not over the counter ..... and also im curious who is your tuner exactly , is it the same fellow whose address u posted a few days back
                    Last edited by kb100; 09-26-2011, 08:18 PM.
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                    • Originally posted by karthikdattag
                      Our drag set bikes Indeed uses TM34 or TM36 carbs, with fully blown Barrels with matching Chambers & most importantly it is the Ignition itself which makes the motor so hungry. And yes, as a food it is given an aviation turbine fuel (ATF) & not normal petrol from BPCL or HPCL outlets.
                      Waaaaaw.....I wish my RX could run on ATF
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                      • Originally posted by kb100 View Post
                        the fuel used in most of these high strung engines is aviation gasoline (av gas with about 100 octane or so) not ATF ,atf is normally used in jet engines and will not work in reciprocating engines also its bpcl hpcl and ioc that supplies these but not over the counter ..... and also im curious who is your tuner exactly , is it the same fellow whose address u posted a few days back
                        Right, Aviation Gasoline is 100octane petrol whereas ATF is kerosene.


                        Originally posted by SunnyBoi View Post
                        Waaaaaw.....I wish my RX could run on ATF
                        Originally posted by karthikdattag
                        Sunny Bhai, for you it is just a wish, but as far as i am concerned its a reality. I can get 50Lts delivered at my door step if i wish. Let me know if you need any !!!!!
                        If I could run on ATF then I could run on kerosene. cheaper you see
                        Yamaha RX165 5-Speed
                        Yamaha RD350
                        HH Karizma
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                        • Originally posted by karthikdattag
                          Can you please enlighten me as to what is the difference between Aviation Gasoline & Aviation Turbine Fuel?

                          Which is the one used in the normal aeroplanes which fly over our cities?

                          Also would be glad if you can give me the code of fuel used for drag race as well as in aeroplanes (i know for sure all aeroplanes are based on Jet propulsion)?

                          And yes, i know IOCL sells it. Thanks for reminding me though !!!!!

                          Why are you so curious about who my tuner is, even after posting the same openly !!!!!!!! Am really confused now!!!!!!!!
                          avgas is basically petrol with high octane number it is used in piston engined aicrafts like cessnas , etc nowa days ,basically smaller aircraft also in older aircrafts like dakotas spitfires etc
                          atf ,like sunniboi said is kerosine based,and is less volatile compared to av gas and is used in jet engined aircraft like boeings , airbus etc which use jet engines etc

                          all the airplanes you see do not use jet propulsion , the smaller 2-4 seaters still use piston engines for power.... its the larger ones boeings , airbuses helicopters etc which uses jet engines in turbojet turbofan and turboprop form that use atf

                          I am not an expert in these things ,from what i know av gas used ususlly has octane number of 100 or so , it is the same one used in smaller aircraft , its not only used in drag racing but also for track racing rally as well , basically it is used in engines having high compression ratios , as it prevents knocking also allows for the engine to run cooler .... experts in aeronautics or racing field can verify this

                          as for the tuner , its me who is confused not you , i will clear the question , is it the ravi nagesh guy or the one whose name you posted some days back
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                          • As an aircraft engineer, yup pretty much the info above is right.. In college a friend did manage to get some fuel and run it in his ZMA.. pretty insane.


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                            • Originally posted by karthikdattag
                              Saar, if 2-stroke auto-rickshaws can mix kerosene & rip their machines, why can't you?

                              Btw, i would suggest you use Rocket Fuel (forget Jet Fuels), that will suit your budget.
                              errr you're forgetting those rickshaw motors keep blowing up left right and centre, you sure you want to do that to your RX? As far as I know kerosene doesn't combust under compression it detonates, which will turn your engine into liquid faeces.
                              RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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                              • I refer to the motor when I said blow up not the rickshaw lol
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