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  • APE RR unit konked off

    guys a few days back, my ape RR unit konked off while coming from mumbai to pune and after some time battery went dead. i had to ride with only pilot lights on, then smoke started to come from bike and bad burning smell, just before khandala ghat.

    i had to stop for checking things out, when i removed the seat , i saw the wire from ape RR output to battery was cut in middle and dangling ( that was the reason battery charging stopped and battery died out) and the end of wire from battery was touching the chasis of bike and sparking ( burning smell) and whole wire hardened with heat. i removed all the fuses and disconnected the battery. then i had to ride without lights/brakelight/indicator/horn in the night and cross khandala ghat and then to pune. it was also raining. when i reached home, i was too tired and eyes also aching due to strain. i had to follow slow moving vehicles for light support, the funny part was that some of vehicles just ran away when they noticed that a bike is following them with headlights turned off.

    i couold not find APE RR on next day that is sunday in pune. so i had to take a leave on monday for the repairs, checked teh APE RR that was still connected to my bike and found out that it is not working any more.

    now i am doubtful, whether RR konked off first then something happened with wire coz wire was cut and burned to black just at the end of fuse or may be wire was cut first and thats why RR konked off...what do you guys say?

    another information is i was not able to find APE RR unit similar to one i was using --the spare part dealer said that this is old model and not used in newer vehicles, now the 3 wheelers come fitted with a different RR which has two additional wires... may be for battery charge indication. he told me that this new one will also work in old one just that 2 wires indicating battery status need not be connected anywhere. he also said that if i still want old RR, it has to be ordered.

    so i bought this new RR with 6 wires instead of 4. it has been a week and it is working fine. i will give the part number in the evening.
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    • Its a short circuit somewhere. I guess some wire came under a load like the tank or seat and got pinched. When they touched the chassis, everything short circuited.

      Are you using heavy gauge better quality wires this time? Also, route the wires properly along with the stock wiring loom so that they don't get pinched.
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      • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
        Its a short circuit somewhere. I guess some wire came under a load like the tank or seat and got pinched. When they touched the chassis, everything short circuited.

        Are you using heavy gauge better quality wires this time? Also, route the wires properly along with the stock wiring loom so that they don't get pinched.
        yes, this time i am not only using thick wires but i am also using nylon sleeves over them for extra protection.
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        • today i am going to book new Extreme i think they are still in ac setup. the main thing i dont like in extreme is ac setup which i need to accelerate to view the slope bumpy roads clearly. if i do this will it affect my warranty?
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          • Need Help regarding DC conversion of Suzuki GS150R.

            Recently I got a HID fitted in my Uni [complete DIY ], thanks to this thread and Shreeni0403. Now a friend of mine wants to fit a HID in his GS150R. I'm in complete darkness regarding the DC conversion process of GS150R since I didn't find anything useful [for GS150R] from this thread. There were a few posts where some fellas were asking about the conversion for their GS150R but later they didn't come up with further posts or queries!

            So now I want you, the Electro-Mod Gurus to do something for me and my friend. Just name the things [Circuit diagrams, Voltage/Amp reading, etc.] you'll need and we'll try our best to come up with 'em.

            Thanks in Advance.
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            • ^^ Its the same funda. Please find a electrical diagram first.
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              • We're already in search of it! Once we get that, I'll post it right here without any delay!
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                • Everything remains the same for GS 150 except the coil, you need to rewind the coil I guess. I am not sure how the coil looks

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                  • Shree, AFAIK, GS150R's coil charges a 9aH battery along with the headlight. So, I doubt that coil rewinding is necessary just for a HID; as we don't need to rewind Uni's coil just for a HID, not sure though. You people are there to help me with that and I too don't know how the coil looks like, we're trying to get the pics ASAP!
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                    • Its better to rewind to avoid low rpm battery drainage. Even on Uni I guess there's this issue on low rpms.

                      Here's the coil of GS 150


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                        Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                        guys a few days back, my ape RR unit konked off while coming from mumbai to pune and after some time battery went dead. i had to ride with only pilot lights on, then smoke started to come from bike and bad burning smell, just before khandala ghat.

                        i had to stop for checking things out, when i removed the seat , i saw the wire from ape RR output to battery was cut in middle and dangling ( that was the reason battery charging stopped and battery died out) and the end of wire from battery was touching the chasis of bike and sparking ( burning smell) and whole wire hardened with heat. i removed all the fuses and disconnected the battery. then i had to ride without lights/brakelight/indicator/horn in the night and cross khandala ghat and then to pune. it was also raining. when i reached home, i was too tired and eyes also aching due to strain. i had to follow slow moving vehicles for light support, the funny part was that some of vehicles just ran away when they noticed that a bike is following them with headlights turned off.

                        i couold not find APE RR on next day that is sunday in pune. so i had to take a leave on monday for the repairs, checked teh APE RR that was still connected to my bike and found out that it is not working any more.

                        now i am doubtful, whether RR konked off first then something happened with wire coz wire was cut and burned to black just at the end of fuse or may be wire was cut first and thats why RR konked off...what do you guys say?

                        another information is i was not able to find APE RR unit similar to one i was using --the spare part dealer said that this is old model and not used in newer vehicles, now the 3 wheelers come fitted with a different RR which has two additional wires... may be for battery charge indication. he told me that this new one will also work in old one just that 2 wires indicating battery status need not be connected anywhere. he also said that if i still want old RR, it has to be ordered.

                        so i bought this new RR with 6 wires instead of 4. it has been a week and it is working fine. i will give the part number in the evening.

                        Guys, just want to update ...

                        the new APE RR i was talking in above post konked off suddenly, a few days back, so it may not be as robust as the old one with 4 wires, besides the old APE RR with 4 wires is still available as i got one today.

                        one more thing i want to ask you guys, dose your APE RR becomes hot?
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                        • I think you need to check the connections for shorts or loose connections. Its abnormal for the APE RR unit to heat up.
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                          • if it is abnormal to get heated up for APE RR, why does it comes with such a big heat sink.??
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                            Raigad
                            Dapoli
                            Aurangabad
                            Kaas Plateu & Thoseghar Waterfalls
                            Purandar

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                            • That big heatsink is what keeps it cool!
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                              • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                                That big heat sink is what keeps it cool!
                                Very true, bigger the heat sink, the better heat dissipation, hence it doesnt feel hot. Normally high capacity RR's are coming with better heat dissipating fins. Check out the P220,ZMA etc. Only bulls RR seems to be bit smaller in size and less fins.
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