Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

[abhijeet080808]

Wow! I am happy to see Doc back with a bang.

OT - Where have you been?

are you kidding me? Stock 3.5amp? :O 1l and 3.5amp battery?

It is a bit underpowered but gets the job done. Most plausible answer is that its of lesser capacity to save weight and improve the bike's handling!

[princesirohi]

also ug4 uses tci ignition system while older all use cdi,so not plug and play.

hey, i never knew that UG4 pulsars have TCI ignition....good man....it is supposed to be better.

output of ape rr?,i would say enough,give it a good coil with good magnet it easily crosses 25 amp barrier with ease.in my bike its pumping close to 13 amps ,thats a massive 182 watts of pure bliss @14 VOLTS FROM 5K RPM.

and what do you do with those 182 watts....running a refrigderetor or what....seriously man.......tell us what you do with those 182 watts..


astronomically reliable.period.who ever fitted the original unit PROPERLY it never failed.originals failed but this one,no never,in my opinion its even more reliable then oem.

i am happily using it till now.

there are other cheap ways to convert the system of ug1/2/3 to full dc by re routing the ac phase to the battery after converting it to dc by using bridge rectifier.works and fails.
worked with rahuldevnath on his mighty all india tour which was close to 15,000kms with hid ,no complaints,it was a blue ug3 180.failed in pavan chirmades 180 ug3,and set the bike on fire while two of the greatest xbhpian(mod guru),pavan and nano technology was onboard but there asses were saved.

i also tried those cheap methods, but failed, i even tried a new method of parallel charging using one APE RR and one stock RR. worked for some time, then failed and both the RR's burnt off. luckily BCU was still unhurt.

hey tell me one thing....

as i am now using a rewinded stator and APE RR....can i now use a 60 watt HID in place of 35 watt HID i am using now.???

[abhijeet080808]

^^ Without a worry!

[NANOtechnology]

set the bike on fire while two of the greatest xbhpian(mod guru),pavan and nano technology was onboard but there asses were saved.

Where did this come from ?

Mr BIG is already big enough to be called GREATEST mod guru that ever lived...


i am just running a stupid unit which is giving me 35 amperes at 2000 rpm (600watts), that's all, nothing great about it.

[drvmtm]

hey doc, raneet. Not ranit. Please. I'm quite particular with my spelling. and that was hell of a reply man. you know i seriously got shocked here to hear r15 comes with 3.5amp batteries. :O used to think it comes with 9amp only like ours. And why did you say 150 and 180 ug4 has so called full dc?

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well a full dc system is producing 40 watt from 8 poles of stator,that cant even support a 55/60 decent bulb,where as people like us using only 7 poles and using more then 100 watts of power,thats why its SO CALLED,.
i remember one incident one of my friend got his new p180 then and was tellin me about its suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupppper strong headlight.then his bike got stranded in the moddle of nowhere because of a puncture.he took my ride and went to call help,and when he came back he didnt said a word since then.the funny part is that time i was not having any hids only standerd 55/50 bulb.

Wow! I am happy to see Doc back with a bang.

OT - Where have you been?



It is a bit underpowered but gets the job done. Most plausible answer is that its of lesser capacity to save weight and improve the bike's handling!

i m in chennai only but fighting for exams ,from 19th this month,so irregular in xbhp.

hey tell me one thing....

as i am now using a rewinded stator and APE RR....can i now use a 60 watt HID in place of 35 watt HID i am using now.???

yes no worries.thats a mere 5 -6 amps.

[Raneet]

edited,done!!!!!!!!
well a full dc system is producing 40 watt from 8 poles of stator,that cant even support a 55/60 decent bulb,where as people like us using only 7 poles and using more then 100 watts of power,thats why its SO CALLED,.
i remember one incident one of my friend got his new p180 then and was tellin me about its suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupppper strong headlight.then his bike got stranded in the moddle of nowhere because of a puncture.he took my ride and went to call help,and when he came back he didnt said a word since then.the funny part is that time i was not having any hids only standerd 55/50 bulb.

i m in chennai only but fighting for exams ,from 19th this month,so irregular in xbhp.

yes no worries.thats a mere 5 -6 amps.

i see. But what is the fallacy? I mean why are those dc setups so weak? Is it the stator coil or is it the rectifier? And also, what conclusion would you draw if i ask you which is a better rectifier for the 220dtsi? The stock oem rectifier or is it the ape? Incase it's the ape, what modifications will a 220 require in order to have the ape rr its the electrical setup? Also wanna know whether there will be any significant difference. i know i have a lot of questions man, but i just can't help it. These just pop up from nowhere.

[princesirohi]

thank you abhijeet and drvmtm: i will now plonk a 60 watt HID in my P150 or another way, i can have one more HID mounted on crash gaurd. what do you suggest??

but guys..........why didn't you suggested me to put a 60 w HID initially when i converted to DC. with rewinding.

[Shreeni0403]

if you have this kind of result and battery is ok then no use if you use a mammoth 120 amp battery also it will discharge.the rr or wiring is culprit in this case.

phewwwwwwwwwwwww............

Vivek bhai what a bang !! 120amps !! I couldn't control myself

But your reply was brilliant !!

[abhijeet080808]

i see. But what is the fallacy? I mean why are those dc setups so weak? Is it the stator coil or is it the rectifier? And also, what conclusion would you draw if i ask you which is a better rectifier for the 220dtsi? The stock oem rectifier or is it the ape? Incase it's the ape, what modifications will a 220 require in order to have the ape rr its the electrical setup? Also wanna know whether there will be any significant difference. i know i have a lot of questions man, but i just can't help it. These just pop up from nowhere.

Its just simple cost optimization. This is done on each and every part of a vehicle including the electronics.

P220 coil will not take the APE RR unit directly. You need to rewind first.

thank you abhijeet and drvmtm: i will now plonk a 60 watt HID in my P150 or another way, i can have one more HID mounted on crash gaurd. what do you suggest??

but guys..........why didn't you suggested me to put a 60 w HID initially when i converted to DC. with rewinding.

Coz 35W HID is good enough for most!

Adding a 2nd one is better for reliability and heat generation perspective. A single 55W one should however give a better throw.

[sajjt]

thank you abhijeet and drvmtm: i will now plonk a 60 watt HID in my P150 or another way, i can have one more HID mounted on crash gaurd. what do you suggest??

but guys..........why didn't you suggested me to put a 60 w HID initially when i converted to DC. with rewinding.

Hey dude,

You have a UG3 P150 right? How did you manage to fool the BCU? Gone for a UG4 BCU which works on DC? Would love to hear the tweaks you've done for that.

Vivek bhai what a bang !! 120amps !! I couldn't control myself

But your reply was brilliant !!

Were u visualizing Drji is carrying a 120AH on a saddle bag?

or like this?

Its just simple cost optimization. This is done on each and every part of a vehicle including the electronics.

P220 coil will not take the APE RR unit directly. You need to rewind first.

Coz 35W HID is good enough for most!

Adding a 2nd one is better for reliability and heat generation perspective. A single 55W one should however give a better throw.

Abhi what makes u to think a P220 needs a RR swap?

[abhijeet080808]

Abhi what makes u to think a P220 needs a RR swap?

Not me, Raneet wants the APE RR somehow in the P220!

I was just saying that the 3 phase coil will not be supported by the APE RR.

[Raneet]

Abhi what makes u to think a P220 needs a RR swap?

hey i just wanted to know which rectifier is better and if i plan to upgrade, what i need to do. it was just a query.

[princesirohi]

Coz 35W HID is good enough for most!

Adding a 2nd one is better for reliability and heat generation perspective. A single 55W one should however give a better throw.

if i replace my HID with a 55/60/65 watt HID.....will it melt my reflector or cause the plastic to become yellow.

Hey dude,

You have a UG3 P150 right? How did you manage to fool the BCU? Gone for a UG4 BCU which works on DC? Would love to hear the tweaks you've done for that.

i have added a switch which disconnects DC supply during starting.....later its ok....

[abhijeet080808]

if i replace my HID with a 55/60/65 watt HID.....will it melt my reflector or cause the plastic to become yellow.

Depends on the HID quality. Good HIDs do not heat up like halogens.

[Shreeni0403]

Coz 35W HID is good enough for most!
There is a big difference !!

Adding a 2nd one is better for reliability and heat generation perspective. A single 55W one should however give a better throw.
Agreed ! Heat definitely will fade your reflector if not melt !!

Had been to Munnar last weekend powered with a H4 on headlight and H3 on pencil beam It was brilliant !!

Both 35w 4300k, but 4300k H3 looked a bit more blue, probably bcz of the size of reflector or is it bcz of type of bulb !! Picture attached.