Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[abhijeet080808]

@drmvtm - The low beam is awesome, but why dont you lift up the 6000k high beam a bit? Would be great, IMO.

Your battery probs solved?

@yellowspunk - FZ does not need any mods. Just get a 4300K Bi-Xenon HID. (It has both Hi and Lo beams)

[drvmtm]

my ans are in BOLD!!!!!!

@drmvtm - the low beam is awesome, but why dont you lift up the 6000k high beam a bit? Would be great, imo.
the pics don't do justice,i tried too many setting of my camera but couldn't get the real picture!the low beam of the bi xenon is awesome indeed with a sharp cutoff line it s very much usable in city,till date i didn't got any remarks from oncommers for the light,i think its very safe and more over the 4300k temp is very very close to premium halogen bulbs so the irritating effect is not there also the glare,thus it also has a glare protector,thanks to navnish anyway for supplying this nice product.
For high beam well,i can say .....the high beam with bi xenon is much much better then the old 55/60 halogen setup.what i like the most is when i put the high beam on previously with halogen ,all the light was going to distant part of the road only leaving the near part of the road completely dark,so u cant see a thing a path hole or something which is just 4-5 feet front of u,but the bi xenon high beam i can see both ,the light is mainly aimed at distant view but a quite amount of the light coming out to light up the near roads also.
As far as the high beam goes in bi xenon in pulsys reflector the light spread is very wide so the intensity is bit less on high beam which is entirely is because of the reflector,i am telling this because,i test mounted the bi xenon in to a amby's seal beam made by auto-pal ,both the beams where precise,i say i used 90/100 or even 130/100 in my cars in seal beams but the 4300 bi xenon in a amby seal beam is a killer and i prefer it even more then 90/100 halo,may be its even better then a tiny bit then 130/100 because i tested it side by side,run s cooler also the battery is happy,more over its very natural white where the 130/100 is yellowish!!so abhi,get a 4300k bi xenon and try it out.

your battery probs solved?
after putting the new coil the charring improved specially at the no load con dish ,its maintaining 13.8 volts even at idel speed,with the single hid also thereis no probs and the voltage is more then 13 volts at idal.
Prob now is when there is full load the voltage drops a bit but its better then the old coil,at idel full load the voltage is 11.8 volts.i attached a ammeter its show discharging battery in idal speed with full load,but it balances to no charge no discharge level in 3 k rpm and the voltage in that rpm is 12.6.
So i decided to rewind my extra stater with a 18 gauge wire.neat,tight as much as possible,.i will leave no place empty,even the space between two coils will be filled up using spacers.i checked the space for fittinbg it having quite a lot so fitting a fu;ll stater will not be a prob,my previous stater had 19 gauge wire 10.2 feet per pole,poorly winded that also supported the full load after 3.8 k rpm no charge no discharge stat,this time a stator with 12 feet minimum per pole and will be brimmed up up[ to the level with a 18 gauge wire can be the answre,what u say?also told the winder guy if he faces prob with 18 gauge he will go back to 19 and do the job,12 feet per pole is minimum so 84 feet of wire minimum should be in the stater,.lets hope for the best.i will get it on monday .

@shree-man how much the enfield ampmeter costs?i will fit one in my bike.

[yellowspunk]

@yellowspunk - FZ does not need any mods. Just get a 4300K Bi-Xenon HID. (It has both Hi and Lo beams)

thank you abhijeet ! i should ask for 35w bi-xenon right? can osram nightbreakers be fitted? i saw their website they rated it as 55/60.. wouldn't it drain the battery? but i saw so many reference to it in the community.. and everyone seems to recommend it?

[drvmtm]

thank you abhijeet ! i should ask for 35w bi-xenon right? can osram nightbreakers be fitted? i saw their website they rated it as 55/60.. wouldn't it drain the battery? but i saw so many reference to it in the community.. and everyone seems to recommend it?

osram nb is very good bulb as well as phillips extream power,i used them both extensively,osram is whiter but phillips is natural color and more usable,.the actual light is better in case of phillips xtream power and they r rugged toooooo,osram nb is known for its short life,i also faced it .
yes if ur rev range is 3000 rpm and more u can use a 55/60 bulb but in city u will drain the battery a bit,but still usable.
better is bixenon.
35 watt
4300k
yamaha fz is best fitted with slim ballast.
the results are good.

[abhijeet080808]

@drvmtm - Yes, let us know how it works out. About the bi-xenon HID, I think you have me conviced. Will try it out soon once I get my bike back with me.

[Puneet1]

hey guys
the lighting part has been extensively discussed as i read back the previous posts.. but some people where talking about relays and charging battery etc i dont get it..
i own a fz-s
do i need to change anything in my wiring system or battery for fitting a HID? also is it a direct fit to the current bulb socket or do we need any modifications there too?
can someone also clarify.. i saw many pics in which HID had both high and low beams.. but i read somewhere that HID's dont have high beam.. is that a special HID? what should i ask the shopkeeper?

your reply is very much appreciated !

go for a bi xenon hid where the bulb moves to make hi/lo beam . the looks like this http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j0...n-One-Bulb.jpg

@abhijeet -why not a projector ? im planning on getting 2 bi xenons .

[abhijeet080808]

^^ Good for low beam, not for high beam - basically they will spread a bit too much and hence lack the throw. Most cars still use reflectors for hi beam.

[drvmtm]

go for a bi xenon hid where the bulb moves to make hi/lo beam . the looks like this http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j0...n-One-Bulb.jpg

@abhijeet -why not a projector ? im planning on getting 2 bi xenons .

well ,one word ,projecters are no doubt good but hugely,hugely overrated.
on the other hand regular seal beams good old round with prism ed striated glass hugely underrated if used with a bixenon glare shield.
also there are specific projecters which are used for high beams and i am sorry but its not at all easy to get niether cheap in india.

[Puneet1]

well ,one word ,projecters are no doubt good but hugely,hugely overrated.
on the other hand regular seal beams good old round with prism ed striated glass hugely underrated if used with a bixenon glare shield.
also there are specific projecters which are used for high beams and i am sorry but its not at all easy to get niether cheap in india.

In bixenon projector atleast the awesome lo beam is there even when switched to hi beam unlike seal beams where once we switch to hi beam the lo beam reduces quite a bit . this is when using only 1 headlamp and not 2 separate ones for hi and lo .

next month I'll get the projectors with HID for around 3000-3500 each .my current hid up for sale !

[abhijeet080808]

In bixenon projector atleast the awesome lo beam is there even when switched to hi beam unlike seal beams where once we switch to hi beam the lo beam reduces quite a bit . this is when using only 1 headlamp and not 2 separate ones for hi and lo .

next month I'll get the projectors with HID for around 3000-3500 each .my current hid up for sale !

If a nicely spread beam is what you want (regardless of whether its in lo or hi beam), go for projectors. But dont expect them to perform any better than a cheaper round h/l. Of course they look much much better!

[drvmtm]

If a nicely spread beam is what you want (regardless of whether its in lo or hi beam), go for projectors. But dont expect them to perform any better than a cheaper round h/l. Of course they look much much better!

+1 to that

[yellowspunk]

thank you so much abhijeet and drvmtm..
i really appreciate it.. been googling for months with no results..
these often discussed topics should be made into a post and the first post should be edited adding this.. a suggestion.

[navnish]

hey guys
the lighting part has been extensively discussed as i read back the previous posts.. but some people where talking about relays and charging battery etc i dont get it..
i own a fz-s
do i need to change anything in my wiring system or battery for fitting a HID? also is it a direct fit to the current bulb socket or do we need any modifications there too?
can someone also clarify.. i saw many pics in which HID had both high and low beams.. but i read somewhere that HID's dont have high beam.. is that a special HID? what should i ask the shopkeeper?

your reply is very much appreciated !

On the fz the bi xenons work perfectly. the spread of light is also too good. Let me know if you want a bixenon. I just have a pair left.

[sajjt]

In bixenon projector atleast the awesome lo beam is there even when switched to hi beam unlike seal beams where once we switch to hi beam the lo beam reduces quite a bit . this is when using only 1 headlamp and not 2 separate ones for hi and lo .

next month I'll get the projectors with HID for around 3000-3500 each .my current hid up for sale !

USing a bixen projector u can expect a nice low beam spread provided u should've a bigger lens, but dont expect more in High beam mode. Its not that impressive as the normal reflectors. Glare sheild is positioned too low and its not opening fully at high beam mode. Like Drvmtm said, there r dedicated high beam lenses but the budget will go up beyond ur imaginations and most of these dedicated lenses are manufactured by reputed cos like Hella, Bocsh etc. and falling into the range of $400 for a pair. Is that worth and viable to fit two lenses in a bike without a proper fairing.

Hows this idea? Its a Dodge sealed beam with a lens for LB and reflctor for HB.

[Calibre]

HERE ARE THE PICTURES...........................

FRONT VIEW-BIXENON 4300K IN MAIN DOME,6000K IN AUX DOME.

LIGHT CANON ...... JUST A BIT OF EFFECT.....

4300K LOW BEAM.

4300 K HIGH BEAM.

AUX 6000K HID.

6000K+4300K LOW

6000K+4300K HIGH.

the lights are tooo good then the pics above.also 4300k is the one to go for.

nice pics bro
even im thinking of changing my FZ light to bixenon after reading all this...
but how much wil they cost me??