Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[rossiter]

Saw the Nightbreakers at work last night for the first time, and I was stunned. Not sure what I was doing with stock all these days.. Buying a bunch to change the bulbs across my bikes and car

[sajjt]

thanks @sajanjosepht.
can you tell me, what is magneto cover?

as per another thread,
"Don't buy the full stator assembly kit (magneto assebly as well as coil) buy only the coil (part no. DV111005).
The only modification required on my bike was the neutral light connection had to be modified. "

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/desi-bikes/5146-help-powerful-headlamps-my-p200.html

mine is P150/ UG3 version/ 1 year old.

Inside the Magneto cover the stator coil fitted, so u need to open to rewinding or any mod.
This pic will help u


I dont know why that is mentioned, stock stator coil coming like this.


A rewinded coil will be like this, see the diff in guage


The only difficulty was the neutral wire has to be reconnected, rest of the wires in socket. So there's no confusion.

U can refer this for installation

http://www.bcmtouring.com/forum/articles-f20/increase-bajaj-pulsar-s-headlight-intensity-170-a-t3671/

[Shreeni0403]

Saw the Nightbreakers at work last night for the first time, and I was stunned. Not sure what I was doing with stock all these days.. Buying a bunch to change the bulbs across my bikes and car

But I feel Philips Rally Vision 90/100w would be a better bet for cars. Its cheaper as well.

I am using Osram NB on my Unicorn on DC and a fren of mine is using Philips Rally on his CBZ Classic (Coil rewinded). You can't compare 55/60 with 90/100w

[abhijeet080808]

But I feel Philips Rally Vision 90/100w would be a better bet for cars. Its cheaper as well.

I am using Osram NB on my Unicorn on DC and a fren of mine is using Philips Rally on his CBZ Classic (Coil rewinded). You can't compare 55/60 with 90/100w

Exactly! I bet Rossiter will be stunned once more!

[abhichotu.abhi]

hey,

for putting a HID on a AC+DC bike cannot we connect a custom made rectifier directly into the old (AC) headlight wiring

coil------------------rectifier--------HID

above setup needs no battery supply power,..

dualdisc has done this on his bike

[abhijeet080808]

hey,

for putting a HID on a AC+DC bike cannot we connect a custom made rectifier directly into the old (AC) headlight wiring

coil------------------rectifier--------HID

above setup needs no battery supply power,..

dualdisc has done this on his bike

You can, but at idle AC voltage goes below 12V on some bikes.This may turn off the HID. In case of battery connected HID, you have battery back up.

[rahuldevnath]

hey,

for putting a HID on a AC+DC bike cannot we connect a custom made rectifier directly into the old (AC) headlight wiring

coil------------------rectifier--------HID

above setup needs no battery supply power,..

dualdisc has done this on his bike

I tried in my P180, it's only after 5K RPM that an HID may lit, and it will switch off anything below 4K RPM, I don't see the possibility here. Which bike does he have? P200?

[Shreeni0403]

To Electronic Guru's

By any chance, is it not possible to create a circuitry so that the light's switch to DC when rpm drops below 4k rpm? Above 4k let it take from AC.

[abhijeet080808]

To Electronic Guru's

By any chance, is it not possible to create a circuitry so that the light's switch to DC when rpm drops below 4k rpm? Above 4k let it take from AC.

If you can sense that the bike is at 4k rpm, it is possible. But, why do you need this? What advantages have you seen in this setup?

[Shreeni0403]

If you can sense that the bike is at 4k rpm, it is possible. But, why do you need this? What advantages have you seen in this setup?

There wont be continuous load on the battery.

Let me put it like this, suppose at some X rpm the voltage goes below 12v which is required for the HID to work. Immediately power should be triggered from DC. So the voltage wont drop below 12v and the HID wont turn off or halogen flickering will not be there.

I think low voltage can be sensed if not low rpm.

[rahuldevnath]

There wont be continuous load on the battery.

Let me put it like this, suppose at some X rpm the voltage goes below 12v which is required for the HID to work. Immediately power should be triggered from DC. So the voltage wont drop below 12v and the HID wont turn off or halogen flickering will not be there.

I think low voltage can be sensed if not low rpm.

Hm.. both can be sensed at least in digital Tacho of Pulsar/RTR/ZMR/FZ etc.

That's the same concept in 220, though the threshold is at 2K RPM. I wonder how reliable the circuit will be.

Has to be high tolerance. Secondly the current coming from the Coil has to be well regulated, that is if at all it can sustain an HID.

[ayushkant]

For FZ??

Hi,

Has anyone changed the stock bulb of FZ to something more bright and light??

[sajjt]

There wont be continuous load on the battery.

Let me put it like this, suppose at some X rpm the voltage goes below 12v which is required for the HID to work. Immediately power should be triggered from DC. So the voltage wont drop below 12v and the HID wont turn off or halogen flickering will not be there.

I think low voltage can be sensed if not low rpm.

Hi Guys, let me tell u one thing, an HID will not lightup without the aid of a batt. as for the first few secs it takes a min of 8-9A from the batt. None of the bike are capable of deliver this much of current from the alt. And why u want to complicate the things just putting another circuit if the alt is directly feeding to the batt and batt can serve this better. If the Charging current is adequate it will take care of the extra strain from batt, Its a straight thing. I was facing this batt issue with my HID. but when I bypassed the light coil to the high cap RR, things are in a nice manner. I can ride with HID for hours with my 2 spots too. Till date my batt never failed and every morning I can start the bike with a single crank from the starter.

[shamanthnv]

Hi,

Has anyone changed the stock bulb of FZ to something more bright and light??

I got nightbreaker installed, look at my post.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/4803-let-there-light-21.html#post316709

[Shreeni0403]

Hi Guys, let me tell u one thing, an HID will not lightup without the aid of a batt. as for the first few secs it takes a min of 8-9A from the batt. None of the bike are capable of deliver this much of current from the alt. And why u want to complicate the things just putting another circuit if the alt is directly feeding to the batt and batt can serve this better. If the Charging current is adequate it will take care of the extra strain from batt, Its a straight thing. I was facing this batt issue with my HID. but when I bypassed the light coil to the high cap RR, things are in a nice manner. I can ride with HID for hours with my 2 spots too. Till date my batt never failed and every morning I can start the bike with a single crank from the starter.

Can you courier me APE RR Unit