Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[sajjt]

Hi Guys finally changed the headlight bulb to Osram nighbreaker with Avy Coil on My P200...
Just a few questions though:
1.wht is written on the bulb(Plz confirm this so I Could know that I have got the right bulb)
2.There is a minor lag when changed from Upper to dipper and vice-versa is this normal?
3.The light is white when the throttle is used....

Save the 2 pilot lamps and try u'll get another 10W extra to make it more brighter and the lag also will be taken care of.

[Galaxtus]

Hey guys went JC Road today to find out some projectors. I know a mechanic over there who as done projector for his friends FZ. He says using projectors for any bike is useless because they tend to produce lesser light when used . Even projectors with HID produces less light he Says. I wanted to see the FZ he has worked but could not see because the bike was not there, he asked me to come another day. Now i am confused. Because few people who had HID are changing back to normal halogen because of COPS. I saw two bikes changing to stock bulb due to this. Also i found a awesome 2.5" projector with Lens which i tested buy connecting them through there battery. It was Ok (buld was very small though inside). But the cost was 1500 Rs.

[bikemanic]

i'm thinkin of ordering it online 4300K Single Beam HID Regular Ballast Kit [HID43KSB] - $99.99 : Got HID Xenon? We have 4300K 6000K 8000K 10000K 12000K 15000K 30000K Kits and replacement bulbs.

just wanna know wat type of bulb will fit the R15 ??? H1 ?

[Galaxtus]

Hi guys, fitted with hid today. Main xenon with 6000k and normal yellow xenon for low beam. Have to test tonight. But 2 days back did try something but went wrong. Will post detail with pics.

[Shanz]

Hey guys went JC Road today to find out some projectors. I know a mechanic over there who as done projector for his friends FZ. He says using projectors for any bike is useless because they tend to produce lesser light when used . Even projectors with HID produces less light he Says. I wanted to see the FZ he has worked but could not see because the bike was not there, he asked me to come another day. Now i am confused. Because few people who had HID are changing back to normal halogen because of COPS. I saw two bikes changing to stock bulb due to this. Also i found a awesome 2.5" projector with Lens which i tested buy connecting them through there battery. It was Ok (buld was very small though inside). But the cost was 1500 Rs.

The mechanic was correct yet wrong!
The Projector's tend to Cut the Glare and Reduce the intensity of light. On the other hand they focus the light well at close measure's and help it stay un-dispersed creating an equal spread of light on closer distance.

My take would be that go for normal 35w/55w bulb for low beam and keep the HID for higher beam.

But here one more problem arises, the frequent use of pass light function would deplete the life of HID's as the Xenon gas needs to be heated at startup to produce the full intensity. When you flast the high and low beam it tends to make the gas cool down and then re-heat up. So this would in term put a not-so-good effect on your HID.
Though watever the setup u opt for, just use it wisely.

Shanz
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[RanjithMN]

@shanz
isnt in better the other way?..i mean have HID as your low beam and halo as high beam?...coz HID as high bean can really coz problems for on comers! and like you mentioned HID cannot be used for "passing" it can easily damage it!

the best setup is to have HID-projector for low and halo-reflector for high!

[Shanz]

Yup! But these day's cops are really lunatic when it come's to HID.
On every second traffic signal you'll be charged a fine for same.
And obviously, one cant/shouldnt ride with High beam in city.

So according to me the best setup would be-

A Hid PROJECTOR with ONLY High Beam and another REFLECTOR with 55w Halo (or 35w normal bulb,) having both High and Low beam.

Did I hear power consumption et la?
Connect the Hid with a seperate switch and turn that switch on only on highways, and let the 55w/35w Bulb do the pass light function.

I know it's a bit tough to do all that 'Crazy' wiring stuff but the result would be simply superb, give it a try.

[sajjt]

Yup! But these day's cops are really lunatic when it come's to HID.
On every second traffic signal you'll be charged a fine for same.
And obviously, one cant/shouldnt ride with High beam in city.

So according to me the best setup would be-

A Hid PROJECTOR with ONLY High Beam and another REFLECTOR with 55w Halo (or 35w normal bulb,) having both High and Low beam.

Did I hear power consumption et la?
Connect the Hid with a seperate switch and turn that switch on only on highways, and let the 55w/35w Bulb do the pass light function.

I know it's a bit tough to do all that 'Crazy' wiring stuff but the result would be simply superb, give it a try.

Dude, there r some tips in selecting the right HID, always stick to the CT range of 4.3K-5.5K will give u the optimum lumens,whereas on 6K and above its for the show off and for good weathers, u'll feel that ur HID's gone for a toss in rain if u got these range.

And to tackle the cops, always stick to the 4.3K-5K it gives almost same CT of a halo, they figure u out from a distance while seeing the bluish light, here u've only a powerful halo under ur dome when they see u so u can easily pass them and u can fool these smart cops

If u get an H4 (Bixen) projector, u can have both H&L within that, but HB will not be impressive and one and important thing is, if u use an HID in the projector, u'll loose the ability to flash. Its not like u said earlier, HID will take a min of 3-6 secs to get full brightness, after 3-6 secs whats the use of flashing? But on night rides with HID, a bixen projector/HID kit can give u flashing effect, bcz bulb is already in full brightness and the solenoid is making the HB effect. And one more tip, if properly used, HID offers 10 times of a normal halo's life span, and these bulbs needs a cooling time of 30-40 secs for good life span, else life of the bulb will be shortened.

If u need a good HB u need to have another reflector dome with a halo, will give u flashing too. Normal drive beam is LB, so be it on HID, HB on halo, will be the best combination, U can even have twin beams at a time, if ur coil supports both the HID and the halo, which am following.

If u do proper wiring, no need of extra switch, stock switch will do all these, with some wiring mod, see for that on the other threads.
Goodluck.

[Shanz]

Dude, there r some tips in selecting the right HID, always stick to the CT range of 4.3K-5.5K will give u the optimum lumens,whereas on 6K and above its for the show off and for good weathers, u'll feel that ur HID's gone for a toss in rain if u got these range.

And to tackle the cops, always stick to the 4.3K-5K it gives almost same CT of a halo, they figure u out from a distance while seeing the bluish light, here u've only a powerful halo under ur dome when they see u so u can easily pass them and u can fool these smart cops

If u get an H4 (Bixen) projector, u can have both H&L within that, but HB will not be impressive and one and important thing is, if u use an HID in the projector, u'll loose the ability to flash. Its not like u said earlier, HID will take a min of 3-6 secs to get full brightness, after 3-6 secs whats the use of flashing? But on night rides with HID, a bixen projector/HID kit can give u flashing effect, bcz bulb is already in full brightness and the solenoid is making the HB effect. And one more tip, if properly used, HID offers 10 times of a normal halo's life span, and these bulbs needs a cooling time of 30-40 secs for good life span, else life of the bulb will be shortened.

If u need a good HB u need to have another reflector dome with a halo, will give u flashing too. Normal drive beam is LB, so be it on HID, HB on halo, will be the best combination, U can even have twin beams at a time, if ur coil supports both the HID and the halo, which am following.

If u do proper wiring, no need of extra switch, stock switch will do all these, with some wiring mod, see for that on the other threads.
Goodluck.

Eh! IMHO HID with CT rating of 4.3k is the Best. No 6k or 3k can give u that illumination plus visibility.

Ur idea is cool about that solenoid thing but still with only one single HID working for both H&L beam, you may find it tough to escape the law keepers.

Using HID with reflector will be straight forward 'killer' for oncomer's, but i'd love to teach those high beam junkie's a lesson by showing em my high beam HID w/o projector.

P.S. - Am not doing any alterations on my current setup, I was just replying to Galaxtus & ranjithmn.
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[sajjt]

Eh! IMHO HID with CT rating of 4.3k is the Best. No 6k or 3k can give u that illumination plus visibility.

Ur idea is cool about that solenoid thing but still with only one single HID working for both H&L beam, you may find it tough to escape the law keepers.

Using HID with reflector will be straight forward 'killer' for oncomer's, but i'd love to teach those high beam junkie's a lesson by showing em my high beam HID w/o projector.

P.S. - Am not doing any alterations on my current setup, I was just replying to Galaxtus & ranjithmn.
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Dude, u r mistaken, solenoid is for bixenon ie; 1 hid bulb for h&l function. And to tackle the cops u need to have the 4.3-5K no solenoid will save u. What I was trying to say is a Bixenon HID will've more life span than a HID Halo combi as switching between beams before cooling period.

I agree,u can still poke their A$$ by just turning to HB in case of a BX on a stock reflector. HID on a reflector is a killer as u said, but beware that those truckies will have a tendancy to drive towards u once they got mad rather than running over on the other side of the road. I had similar experiences and one of my friend had an accident due to this act of a truck. So I used to poke them when am on another lane, so that they cant threaten me just doing any turning towards.

[RanjithMN]

how come the Luxury cars the have HIDs if its banned?

[princesirohi]

guys i want an HID in my pulsar 150 dts-i ug3, i have some querries--

1) out of all the available brands, which is the best.

2) i want a 12 V, 35W, HID with single bulb (magnetically moving Hi/Lo type H4), how much will it cost, where can i get in pune. is it OK to purchase from nanapeth (considering its reputation).

3) one technical question. pulsar headlight runs on 12V AC i guess. and HID needs DC. so we need to connect the HID system to battery. but i guess battery charging ckt. is not capable to charge the battery at the same rate and battery will be drained. and the headlight ckt coming from magneto will remain unused. how to solve this?

4) my main riding is at night only on highways for approx 150 kms twice a week.

please help me solve the problem.

[Galaxtus]

6000k HID

Hi fellow XBhpians,

Five days back wanted to try out some projectors for my Beast(FZ). I enquired in JC Road, but was costly about Rs.5000/-. I posted that previously. Thanks to gaurav who read it & told me he has a Pulsar 220's projector. I was so exicted, finally i met him & took it. Next day went to the mechanic in JC Road who does all kinds of mods for the bikes. He has also changed P220 into R15 like design. He is talented & i knew him. For fixing the projector it took him around 2 1/2 hours to complete(it would have finished early but power was not there for sometime). It was looking awesome on my FZ when it finished. I tell you the main cruelty was from now. The projector lens was not original or damaged. Sorry gaurav, i think they have tricked you in selling that. The mistake i did was, i didn't test it before placing it inside. That same night i finished work around 11.00pm night. O man no light was coming out of that projector. The light was only coming out of the sides but i couldn't see anything in centre. I knew this would happen because projectors are not ment for halogens (ones with cap on top) but still it has to produce some light. I was really disappointed & went next day back to him. I asked him try HID on the projector but the result was same. The lens was fake one. Finally i took out the projector from inside. I was so disappointed after doing all that got wasted. The 4 screw gaps i filled it with blue led bulbs has praking lights. The removed assembly i kept in home, if i find a good lens i will remove that & test it before setting it in.

First i tried 8000k, the shop owner insisted to buy that. I knew higher the kelvin lower the power. Now i have 6000k Hid kit. This is really good compared to 8000K. It produces more light when fully charged up. Ballast fitted inside tank fibre. Low beam Normal Yellow colour type to be cop friendly & the High Beam is White bright. Some pics of the process (taken from my N78 mobile camera)......

The first two photos are with halogens. After that you guess what happened & last 3 are without light, LB & HB.

[Shreeni0403]

Hi fellow XBhpians,

Five days back wanted to try out some projectors for my Beast(FZ). I enquired in JC Road, but was costly about Rs.5000/-. I posted that previously. Thanks to gaurav who read it & told me he has a Pulsar 220's projector. I was so exicted, finally i met him & took it. Next day went to the mechanic in JC Road who does all kinds of mods for the bikes. He has also changed P220 into R15 like design. He is talented & i knew him. For fixing the projector it took him around 2 1/2 hours to complete(it would have finished early but power was not there for sometime). It was looking awesome on my FZ when it finished. I tell you the main cruelty was from now. The projector lens was not original or damaged. Sorry gaurav, i think they have tricked you in selling that. The mistake i did was, i didn't test it before placing it inside. That same night i finished work around 11.00pm night. O man no light was coming out of that projector. The light was only coming out of the sides but i couldn't see anything in centre. I knew this would happen because projectors are not ment for halogens (ones with cap on top) but still it has to produce some light. I was really disappointed & went next day back to him. I asked him try HID on the projector but the result was same. The lens was fake one. Finally i took out the projector from inside. I was so disappointed after doing all that got wasted. The 4 screw gaps i filled it with blue led bulbs has praking lights. The removed assembly i kept in home, if i find a good lens i will remove that & test it before setting it in.

First i tried 8000k, the shop owner insisted to buy that. I knew higher the kelvin lower the power. Now i have 6000k Hid kit. This is really good compared to 8000K. It produces more light when fully charged up. Ballast fitted inside tank fibre. Low beam Normal Yellow colour type to be cop friendly & the High Beam is White bright. Some pics of the process (taken from my N78 mobile camera)......

The first two photos are with halogens. After that you guess what happened & last 3 are without light, LB & HB.

Hey hey.. P220 holds H7 type of bulb which has a single beam, not high/lo.. And regarding projector .. Its pure waste of money if ur expecting too much of light, it actually reduces intensity but gives a proper spread on road.. Don't ever try to remove shield inside projector which will make things worse..

[Galaxtus]

Hey hey.. P220 holds H7 type of bulb which has a single beam, not high/lo.. And regarding projector .. Its pure waste of money if ur expecting too much of light, it actually reduces intensity but gives a proper spread on road.. Don't ever try to remove shield inside projector which will make things worse..

I think you didn't read it full "The light was only coming out of the sides but i couldn't see anything in centre". I knew about P220 projector was ment to spread & it only holds H7. But even HID was waste for that. The lens was damaged this i knew later. What you ment not removing the shield.