Well fat rear tyre is not the only culprit for bad mileage! but it's a contributing factor. I'm not saying if you replace it with thinner tyre you will certainly get better mileage, even after that you need tuning to go with it. As you know a lot depends upon how the bike is tuned, torque spread. Not as simple as bigger engine, lower mileage.. hope you got the point. Comparing with FI bikes is not appropriate, generally they tend to be slightly more fuel efficient than their carb counter parts.

dude , dont just go away . . .i did told that i dont like apache , cbz , and dazzler .my list was p135 , p150 , fzs and hunk .
suggest me one from those . . !

Lots of hallla here now ... lots of suggestion now you have to ask question regarding bikes you have selected if you have any doubt !!!

else you will never ever figure out anything

ok , considering the increasing fuel price iam little tended towards 135 .(sorry dude, i had to forget fzs ) i hope i can have my pleasure of speed on that and i felt it as pretty light .and here aftersales servce of bajaj is pretty good.
so,can you all please tell me all about the baby pulsar, the mileage figure , handling , perfomance etc.

and can you give me a comparo of fz and 135 ?

I know this has to be there, But our few mates are upto that it's way ahead in accelration too, like RTR!!
Few owner today said that P135 goes upto 115kmph, some said 110kmph and some said 120kmph.So, i was thinking why there is so different figure!! Where as they are atleast yr old riders on p135.
Yes this pretty true!!
Latest R15 has been tuned to deliver better performance then previous one at low ends too. And wide tyre is doing as usual wonder here!!
Always go by requirement not by our suggestion! Here you will get all types of suggestion, becuase all here are different origins in all aspects!! Some can afford low average bikes, some can afford only mileage bikes, some can buy anything, by people's choice, etc...but the right technique is to buy by req

I see you more towards mileage!! and average handling!!
P135 is not at all a bad bike, it has been accepted by Indians in mileage, log terms relationship, fun side, affordability and maintenance wise too..

Actually why to pay 20k extra when you can live with 20k less??
Think this and decide!!

just because on one hand i love the looks and yamaha badge of fz on other hand i love the mileage ,weight and the pulsarian tag of pulsar . . .
iam still confused realy bro.

1. check your pocket first! 85k OTR +/- 2K.
2. Are you ready to pay 40-45kmpl and petrol cost of Rs75/liter, averagely in city you will get anything from 40-42kmpl, 40-45kmpl or more on highway!
3. Maintenance is higher side then P135! which you need to do every 2-3 months as per your usage!
4. SVC in your area

P135
1. Saving 20k which is awesome, around 60-65k OTR.
2. Average of 60kmpl on higway and 50-55kmpl in city
3. Maintenance anytime less then FZ any given day. compare it with simple engine oil which will be changed in each service.
4. Bajaj has more SVC around then Yamaha

No one can help you more then this, Else please don't buy a bike at all.
More thinking is like useless stuff!!
See for your profit then looks!! What you have to do by looks when your pockets is holed daily!! It's all about your pocket dude.

Truth is to know your limits then living in Fantasy World!!

Apparently rider's weight counts!! remeber Bajaj's claim of top speed was based on rider's weight of about 65kgs! I've seen a 121kmph on speedo, don't know how much it really translates to. Another factor could be lean/rich mixture, obviously if you are running lean, top end will be effected.

Just one small correction, P135LS has eqully good handling when compared with FZ, not avg. It turns sharply without any tantrums, only difference is FZ got better tyres & monoshock, makes you feel that FZ's handling is better. Remember P135LS comes both with Eurogrips and Mrf zappers. If you were to ride the one shod with Eurogrips, you will certainly complain about grip levels and handling and say it's avg!

First bike? Then a no to pulsar. This i am telling from my experience and mean no offence to anyone. As a first choice better select a machine that can be handled roughly (as you mentioned about rough gear shifts), and which makes you comfortable. I see hunk is on your list. For which i am happy. Looks wise its not that bad is it? And is the honda tag more important or the honda product in your hands? Quality and reliability of hero? As a first bike my advice would be any product of hero, second yamaha.

Thanks dude , you are realy helping me well.
I got One more doubt.about the hunk.i did told you all that I do ride a hunk of my friend.
It got both the looks and mileage .and I believe hero's maintenance. & chargs are less because I never saw my friend spending lotta money on that.
And its service center is kinda close to my home.but did the spliting realy made hero machines bad ? The engine will have the same quality that it had when it was hero honda. . ?
Can you give a comparo of hunk and pulsar 135 as you gave above. . ?
Thanks in advance. . .

Why no to pulsar . . ? Can you please explain the reason . . ?

Thats the same question I have in my mind . . .
If it was hero honda ,i would have bought hunk . If the mileage of fz was stable ,i would have loved yamaha. . .but both are just dreams I think . . .

i've told you why i think no to pulsar. Since its your first ride you tend to make mistakes in a lot of stuffs. And pulsar is not a bike for such mistakes. I give the same suggestion to many of my frds. And do not worry. Quality and servicing of hero after the jv is still the same. They serviced their engines and bikes then, and they do the same now. The hunk now is the same old hunk when it was hero honda. They changed the cosmeticis thats al. If u buy hero, no worries abt quality and mileage

See its very dificult to have the best of both worlds. The bikes which you like according to looks have low FE/inconsistent FE. On the other hand the bikes that have good FE, you do not like the looks that much.

IINM, after the split, the bikes which HMC made before the split will continue to have the same engine. Its the new bikes that HMC releases after the split, that will be soley dependent on HMC R&D.

So you can safely buy a Hunk.

Reg maintainance cost, a Yamaha will obviously be costlier comapred to Bajaj. Also availability of spares other than service center is a problem for Yamaha (speaking solely from my experience with my R15 v2), which is not the case with Bajaj (especially for Pulsar series and my experince with my Discover 125 DTS-i).

First decide what you need, 1> FE (P135LS/Hunk) 2> Looks even though FE takes a hit. (FZS)
If you cant decide, listen to what your heart says, buy that, you wont be disappointed.

Now i see slowly you added Hunk to the confusion!! if you keep adding some or the other then you will be stuck with no where!

Even after hero has parted ways from honda that won't effect the engine or quality of Hero's peoduct in any case!!!
Hero has an agreement with honda for life long engine tech can be used untill that model is alive(i.e is not shut down by hero itself) confirmed with many hero showroom in Kalyan, Thane.So be rest assured about the engines.

Now Hunk,
OTR: price 74K more expensive then P135
mileage : 50-55kmpl in city, and 60kmpl+ on hiways. Same engine of unicorn.
Top Speed: Many have noted 120+kmph.
Handling is good and comfortable riding position.

Go through the CBZ/Hunk ownership thread.


If you are thinking on Hunk then please go with DUAL DISC ONLY!!
maintenace has to be little above then Bajaj, as Bajaj as broked all the barriers, Duke's brake pads are less then R300 read some where in ownership thread.

If now you ask me then i will say Hunk becuase of good mileage, Unicorn's engine, Hero's wide spread SVC and Dual Disc, i guess when you aimes FZ which is 80k + then i guess Hunk is not big deal for you??

Why has nobody suggested Honda Unicorn?