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Originally posted by dushyant123
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I dont know on speedo but actual is around 128km/hNOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT -
I do agree to the fact that Hero Honda is considered to be more reliable than Bajaj but then again it depends on how you maintain the bike. I have seen many Karizma owners who have ripped off their bikes like anything and you won't find their bikes worth riding. Whereas, you will still find some of the Pulsar owners who have maintained their bikes from a long time and are not facing any issues with it. Hero Honda is more reliable, whereas, Bajaj is cheaper when it comes to the cost of the vehicle and it's parts. Though, it's not that Bajaj is not reliable enough but it still needs to improve it's quality.Originally posted by hondarider View Post
According to the figures, it's 126 km/h.Originally posted by madhav krishna View PostComment
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its true that different people maintain their bikes differently but if a same guy is maintaining an HH bike & a bajaj's bike simultaneously & equally good, then Karizma's part will last longer & will need less maintenance..that's why we say its more reliable..even just for a survey, you can visit few local mechanics shops & collect the data of no. of bikes which they repair on daily basis..things will go clear after it..Originally posted by C Oberoi View Post
he didn't mention about the official figures, he mentioned it as actual one..Originally posted by C Oberoi View PostSuzuki Gixxer - Current
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The ZMA tops near 126km/h. But the ZMR tops at 128km/h.Originally posted by C Oberoi View PostNOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THATComment
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Nops the zma`s top speed is 125kmph and that of zmr is 126kmph(as per HH website)Originally posted by madhav krishna View PostComment
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My Karizma mid panels broke with my weight (I weighed 75-80 then).Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
The head-lamp lugs broke 2-3 times on their own
The rear panels broke on their own
Valves needed to be changed despite changing oil at every 1000kms (Power 1) & the petrol filled was from the MOST reputed pump available.
In comparison to the P-180 which I had, the electric starter gave up & thats it.
My P-180 ran for 25K before selling. The Karizma barely managed 13-15K before I sold. The older owners had warned me about these issues earlier. Some are present here & some have abandoned it.
The mechanicals of a HH bike are sound because of the JV. In no way a Pulsar will fall apart. Yes, its coarser, but then it has character. But of recent the problems reported on newer bikes are ever growing all across the manufacturers.
^^I still fill up my Cars/Bikes from the same pump, ride the same way if not harder, yet there are no problems reported. Still my brake shoes don't last & my steering cone-set goes bust.Comment
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Count the no. of pulsars & other bikes in the segment on road & think it over again. Things will go clear to you after it.Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
U did buddy... Search through latest bike magz. There's been a braking comparo between all indian performance bikes & P220 comes second by a very little margin after the RTR180. And do you even expect hefty 169kgs with those super skinny tyres coming to halt before 220. And about the R15, yes the response is awesome but rear goes off the ground under hard braking. And ZMR is way behind then these three interms of 60-0.Originally posted by 111diablo111 View PostOnly a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.Comment
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One cannot rely simply quote individual case to judge reliability. No matter what manufacturer, there is always bound to be some defects. The unlucky gets them. As a counter claim, I could quote that nothing broke on my Zma-R till date, it has already clocked 19k+. Never broke down and always starts with the first click.Originally posted by sheelpriye View PostMy Karizma mid panels broke with my weight (I weighed 75-80 then).
The head-lamp lugs broke 2-3 times on their own
The rear panels broke on their own
Valves needed to be changed despite changing oil at every 1000kms (Power 1) & the petrol filled was from the MOST reputed pump available.
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It is an acceptable fact that HH scores on reliability and Bajaj scores on performance. On other hand, just because I've smoked some guy on p220 does not make my Zma-R faster than p220.Comment
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Forget reliability for a moment*, what is your take on the plastics on the
Karizma? Nothing broke?
*might be a one off case in mine.Comment
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Honestly, I don't know much about plastics. But like I said, nothing broke as yet. Everything's in mint conditionOriginally posted by sheelpriye View Post
. So should someone ask me about the plastic quality, I would say .. 'seems good'.
On other hand, the plastic can also break if its not sitting properly, out of alignment etc. due to manufacturing defect, causing it to flex too much. Or worse, the bike frame itself is slightly bend or flexing beyond acceptable limit. But this is purely my assumption.Comment
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Dude, Karizma's part may last longer but when it comes to changing them, you will find that you have lost a lot of money from your pocket. Go and ask for Hero honda Karizma's disk pads and then go to a PBK showroom and ask for P220's disk pads. You will find that the difference is just too much. Bajaj had entered into the world of bikes a lot later than HH but it has come a long way since then. It has improved it's technology and the service area drastically. Go to a bajaj showroom and see how politely they speak to you to get the issues sorted and go to a HH showroom and look at the way they speak to you. They speak as they do not need you as a customer but you need them. That's the difference.Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
lol..do you think you can take the bike faster than the official figures ? If you have an idea about bikes, you should know that there is a difference in the actual speed and the speed you see on the speedometer.Originally posted by 111diablo111 View PostComment
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+1Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
Plastics are ok i guess , its the design of those points where the panels are screwed on the chassis,thin c/s joints hold the panel which are tightened to such an extent, if you wanna remove it, IT WILL BREAK . Few days back, I tried to remove the rear side panels to get rid of the saree guard,
broke both the mounting above the rear tail lamp. then glued it together and left the job half way
Also, the battery side panel which consists of 2 plastics mated together- BROKE - dont know when or whom to thank SVC/HH,fixed it with super glue
After last service, the fairing now vibrates at 2.5k-3k rpm which is irritating thanks to SVC before which no issues with fairing.
As of P220F , guess other than the fairing vibration issue, rear LED strips not working and those hideous RVMs ,build quality of rest of the plastic parts are better relatively.tour-master on exileComment
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hey i am riding my ZMA from nov 2006 and i don't have a single prob till now...it's a wonderful machine.....some people crib for spare parts but it's all available in my city... moreover i had only changed air filter and spark plug once and done regular servicing...sometimes i ride my bike very badly like dirt bike
but it's fun...
Don't Honk UnnecessarilyComment
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You've changed air filter only once in four years? How many kilometers has it done so far? You clean them often? Sorry so much questions.Originally posted by Satyamzma View Posthey i am riding my ZMA from nov 2006 and i don't have a single prob till now...it's a wonderful machine.....some people crib for spare parts but it's all available in my city... moreover i had only changed air filter and spark plug once and done regular servicing...sometimes i ride my bike very badly like dirt bike but it's fun...
Sounds incredible as I got my bike only last year and has already changed the air filter once. Not that it was giving problem. Just felt, bike will not be running at optimum with dirty filter and besides theres not much you can do with paper filter as far as cleaning is concern.Comment
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my bike completed 14.5k recently......i get it properly serviced at a good mechanic shop in front of me not in HH service center...i am totally in love with my ZMA...if HH launches a new lighter bike at 17-18 bhp i will be first to buy it..Don't Honk UnnecessarilyComment
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