IS IT A zma OR A ZMR ITS BEEN FACT THAT THE AVAILABILITY OF SPARES ZMR IS A PROBLEM AND MORE THEY ARE ALSO HEAVILY PRICED. THINK ABOUT THE COST AND AVAILABILITY OF SPARES ALSO.

I hope you have read all the rules of xbhp. If not then read it is ASAP. Posting in ALL CAPS is considered as shouting in online forums & not allowed on xbhp.

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i think ZMR is a great bike and will not require any spare parts in the long run...provided you ride it responsibly and not like a kid

i am sorry bro i had no intentions of shouting, will keep that in mind.

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i guess you are not talking about P220 but rather talking about some R6 or ninja P200 is fast but you just exaggerated it ..& about cross wind thing while touring, yeah it does create some problems earlier but later it becomes normal with any full faired bike, n its not that big problem which decides that a bike is better tourer or not..there are other important things which are important while touring & there isn't any doubt that ZMA/ZMR are more comfortable bikes the any Pulsar (no offense to anyone )..though i agree that P220 is a good tourer as well, but accordng to me ZMA/ZMR score higher in this department..

Availability of spares was a problem but now atleast in Delhi i don't find that problem, i got my bike back with in a week after an accident, whole fairing of one side & few other important parts got changed..

3bhp makes a lot of difference.

Comfort wise the ZMA has the lead but the ZMR & p220 have equal level of comfort since in both bikes we lean a bit front while the ZMA has a much straighter position easy on the back.

Both ZMR & p220 are similar in almost everything except that the ZMR has an FI & extra fairing while the p220 has a better power output. Not to forget the enormous 19NM torque which makes the p220 even faster.

The only edge the ZMR would have over a p220 is better throttle response & FE.

BTW i am talking about p220 & not P200.

sorry that was a typo at one place & i was also talking about P220 only..
now talking about riding posture of ZMA n ZMR then there isn't any difference & we don't need to lean on tank while riding a ZMR..its posture is as straight as we ride a ZMA,(it might be just a psychological thing cuz of fairing for some guys ) i never found ANY difference while riding both bikes,n its not only me but anyone can ask generally about comfort level of ZMR n P220 without being partial about any bike..

P220 has around 19NM Torque @ 7000rpm & ZMR produce 18.35NM torque that means difference is even lesser then 1NM but ZMR produce this figure @ 6000rpm..so i don't think so P220 has any such considerable advantage here..
safety features in ZMR is also better then P220 like braking is better & presence of sensor will ensure that your bike will get switched off right after a fall etc..also reliability of Pulsar has improved but still it lacks behind on likes of HH, Honda & Yamaha..
PS - by posting this i didn't mean that P220 is slower then ZMR but i just wanna say that ZMR is slower but not by much, as you also said that P220 will be miles ahead, which certainly isn't that true..

Price in kochi(kerala) on may 2010.zma - 82K,P220-86.5k
On feb/mar 2010 they decrease the price of zma by 4K.I was about to take the zma as suggested by xbhpians but had a 3 months waiting period so took the p220.
u can check the value meter in HH website for the OTR price.In there kochi is not given but can take chennai as reference.its quoting as 82,205 OTR.
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The facts stated by you are true. But the comfort levels of ZMR & P220 are equal since both have same riding posture.When i had ridden the ZMR i found that i was leaning a bit forward than in the ZMA & same was with P220 also (my height is 6ft). Although the front leaning on the ZMR is not as much as in the R15. BTW how did you deduce that the ZMR has a better braking?? And about the sensor thing. Any bike if falls down the fuel will come to the sides of the tank & the engine will get shut since the fuel has got collected at the sides & there is no fuel for the engine. The only difference is the ZMR would have the engine shut at the very instant of fall while other bike will get shut after a few seconds.
Even i had stated the same.

Instant engine shut off after fall is very important as far as safety is concerned bcos if engine is still running after the fall the tyre would keep rotating and could hurt the fallen rider or pillion...

I did ride the R15 from mathura to delhi once (was a 150kms stretch). I dont remember it properly since it was an event at last year on june. I was leaning towards front. But I cant tell the same on today since at that time my height was around 5"8-5"9. But now i am 6 feet. So the riding experience will change now & hence i cant comment about the riding position.

even my height is same as yours but i didn't find even a bit of difference between both ZMA & ZMR..so i guess it can just be a personal choice as i haven't even heard about anyone else whoever ridden both these bikes..though my friends who have ZMAs truly admire my bike ZMR as well..its suspensions are considerably better while comparing it with P220 which adds to comfort level of rider as well as pillion for long tours..

i didn't myself deduce that ZMR has better braking then any Pulsar but i guess almost everyone knows that braking of P220 isn't as good as its rivals which are ZMR or R15..

while talking about sensor i was talking about back angle sensor in ZMR which switches off the ignition if the bike trips over after a certain angle..

Honda's brilliant closed loop PGM-FI also makes a big difference in both bikes..

Dude this sensor is in also Pulsar 220 dts Fi. that is called rollover sensor, when ur bike fall that time bike engine off for safety purpose.

hey guys...

Having read all the conversations... i want to say something as well...

I have been riding the ZMR from the past 3 months and i must say... It is the best one can get on Indian Roads....
I have ridden a P220 as well but don't find her that smooth and comfortable (No offence guys.. just my personal view)...

till now i haven't had any issue with the bike and yeah it is expensive as compared to P220 DTSi however the reliability of HH can't be compared to Bajaj's... (again no offence)

Till now i'm enjoying every ride... and as said by happybiking.... it all comes down to how to maintain your bike...

Hey can someone please tell me the top speed of karizma zmr?
on speedo as well as actual