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  • Originally posted by K@beer View Post
    @Vipin Thanks a lot for the explanation! this certainly helps!!
    Thanks a lot guys for your opinions.

    I think I have finally zeroed down on booking the zma-r (i was really confused between the zma & P220). Majorly after going through all your posts and some other threads, I felt the zma is more reliable (its just what i feel; its just a personal thought and can be incorrect, so plz dont pounce on me)
    Money wise; yes, it does matter but more than that the fear of taking your bike to the SC guys every month grips me too much. since my requirement is more on reliability, less niggles and stability almost majority vouches for the zma..a bit better FE than the 220 would be an added advantage.
    I would prefer having the bike in 1st week of October (6th being Dasera), the dealer assures that I can get the new grey color deliverd (they seem so happy when I am wanting to go for a waiting period of almost 2 months ) still negotiating with him for tubeless tyres.
    Do update if there is anything else that comes up to your mind.

    Thanks & Regards,
    Kabeer

    That's the same criteria which made me go for Karizma R. I have ridden both and Karizma is way more comfortable, just that I miss the insane power of P220 . Also Karizma gives lesser FE (about 2-3 kmpl less) on similar riding condition.
    Adrenaline and petrol can be a lethal combination

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    • oh is it! I initially thought the ZMA wud give better FE than the 220...
      thanks for the update!

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      • Originally posted by K@beer View Post
        oh is it! I initially thought the ZMA wud give better FE than the 220...
        thanks for the update!
        Both bikes offer similar Fuel Average
        Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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        • I guess you should go for the ZMA
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          • Karizma is pretty heavy 160kg so it can be difficult to handle in the city.

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            • Originally posted by rahuldagli View Post
              Karizma is pretty heavy 160kg so it can be difficult to handle in the city.
              AFAIK, both bike weighs almost the same.. ~150kg
              I dont think though the weight will be a problem in traffic. We ain't lifting it..

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              • Yes weight (150 kg) is a problem in bumper to bumper Traffic....but it's a Big bike & not made for riding in Heavy Traffic ..... for riding in traffic ,look for only light 100 cc bikes
                even i avoid taking my ZMA to very dense traffic areas ..
                Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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                • Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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                  • Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
                    sorry that was a typo at one place & i was also talking about P220 only..
                    now talking about riding posture of ZMA n ZMR then there isn't any difference & we don't need to lean on tank while riding a ZMR..its posture is as straight as we ride a ZMA,(it might be just a psychological thing cuz of fairing for some guys ) i never found ANY difference while riding both bikes,n its not only me but anyone can ask generally about comfort level of ZMR n P220 without being partial about any bike..

                    P220 has around 19NM Torque @ 7000rpm & ZMR produce 18.35NM torque that means difference is even lesser then 1NM but ZMR produce this figure @ 6000rpm..so i don't think so P220 has any such considerable advantage here..
                    safety features in ZMR is also better then P220 like braking is better & presence of sensor will ensure that your bike will get switched off right after a fall etc..also reliability of Pulsar has improved but still it lacks behind on likes of HH, Honda & Yamaha..
                    PS - by posting this i didn't mean that P220 is slower then ZMR but i just wanna say that ZMR is slower but not by much, as you also said that P220 will be miles ahead, which certainly isn't that true..
                    correct me if i am wrong... but in the ZMR the 18.35 NM torque at the given rpm is the maximum torque the engine produces...before this and after this the torque falls and is never maximum....soo if ZMR give max torque at 6k RPM and Pulsar at 7k RPM, by the tym ur bike reaches 7k RPM the torque again decreases so the difference increases...guessing more than 1Nm torque and this difference is maintained throughout...SOO Pulsar has and advantage of abt 2 k rpm all the top end which IS VERY VERY GUD ENOUGH...

                    What say PULSAR BRODAS...
                    running a 220
                    18000 Km i 11 months and still running

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                    • Hey hondarider if your first love is ZMR then go for it buddy because 1st love is always first one and frankly speaking ZMR is most lovable bike in India. Its far better then Pulsar in power and handling the issues can be form its price tag as its cost more then other bike prices in India but over all bike is awesome as sporty look. I would recommend for ZMR
                      Jai Ho

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                      • Thanks Friends...

                        I went through a lots of thread..i had been following this thread for a long time.... I decided to get my first love .. ZMA ..

                        This month i got my ZMA-R White..

                        Thanks all for your suggestions...
                        RG

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                        • congrats on your buy.
                          and the question remains why do i race?
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                          #overkill is underrated.
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                          (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                          • Thanks Buddy..
                            RG

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                            • Go for what your heart says..ZMA is a great choice,its 223cc honda engine is very reliable,this is a very good Tourer bike,compared to P220 only only power is less but the reliable bullet-proof engine is a boon.P220 is the fastest Indian for a year or so then the engine & gears becomes rough & performance dramatically reduces.So just close your eyes & go for ZMA...you can also checkout ZMR..
                              Last edited by Samshalu; 03-01-2012, 08:11 PM.
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                              • Originally posted by Samshalu View Post
                                Go for what your heart says..ZMA is a great choice,its 223cc honda engine is very reliable,this is a very good Tourer bike,compared to P220 only only power is less but the reliable bullet-proof engine is a boon.P220 is the fastest Indian for a year or so then the engine & gears becomes rough & performance dramatically reduces.So just close your eyes & go for ZMA...you can also checkout ZMR..
                                buddy he has already bought zma-r.
                                and the question remains why do i race?
                                every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                                #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                                #overkill is underrated.
                                #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                                #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                                (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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