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  • #286
    Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

    Originally posted by vishnus View Post
    If thats the case, the the first service cost will ve around 2-2.5k as most of the owners will opt for Motul 300v factory line
    and any guess on the brake pads..? As they are ABS pads and they may last around 4-4.5k kms.
    Heard a sad news that the trivandrum ktm's test drive 390 is leaking oil after a couple of test drives, hopes it's not a common fault for the 390 like the problem found on the first lot duke 200's.

    Sent from my GT-N7100 using xBhp Connect mobile app
    That is not true, I have taken 3 td's there and when I came back after taking the 3rd ride(Around 25kms) I saw the ktm guy telling 2 fellows that the bike is not fit for a td as it was leaking oil. It was not actually leaking any oil but perhaps their way of saying, sorry.
    Why 2wheels over 4.....
    Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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    • #287
      Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

      Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
      Engine braking in simple terms would be: the resistance provided by the engine when you let go the throttle.
      Say, you are riding your bike in a particular gear then you stop giving any throttle input. Don't you experience a retarding force? Happens more in the initial gears. This is engine braking.

      And by occasional bursts of speed I surely mean crossing 7.5k rpm. Take it to say a 9k-9.5k rpm (I would redline it) and try to do this in all gears. Avoid holding on to these speeds for long, 30-45sec bursts should be good enough.
      Rest assured nothing would happen to the engine. Do this without worrying a single bit about your engine.
      Ensure that you change the oil and oil filter during your first service which for me would be way before the recommended 1k kms. Around 500kms max, may be.

      Sent from my GT-I9100
      I know there was a discussion abt this before, but cant help asking this again, so why does the KTM manuel says keep it below 7500rpm till 1000kms???

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      • #288
        Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

        Originally posted by THE46FAN View Post
        I know there was a discussion abt this before, but cant help asking this again, so why does the KTM manuel says keep it below 7500rpm till 1000kms???
        What ktm is saying would not harm the bike in any way. Infact 7.5k rpm is a lot more than what other brands suggest.

        Its just that ktm might be saying this so that riders get accustomed to the way the bike behaves or from preventing people from redling the bike like crazy right from the word go. The company knows best has been discussed and bebated endless times without a proper conclusion. This is why I choose a different strategy to break in. Its in between the motomans and the way manufacturer suggests and believe me, have used this break in technique on all my bikes and they performed like a charm while being as reliable as it gets.

        Sent from my GT-I9100
        Why 2wheels over 4.....
        Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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        • #289
          Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

          Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
          What ktm is saying would not harm the bike in any way. Infact 7.5k rpm is a lot more than what other brands suggest.

          Its just that ktm might be saying this so that riders get accustomed to the way the bike behaves or from preventing people from redling the bike like crazy right from the word go. The company knows best has been discussed and bebated endless times without a proper conclusion. This is why I choose a different strategy to break in. Its in between the motomans and the way manufacturer suggests and believe me, have used this break in technique on all my bikes and they performed like a charm while being as reliable as it gets.

          Sent from my GT-I9100
          What if i do your way and still get it serviced at 1000kms? Just want to plan it out so there's no confusion later, coz by the time i reach Bangalore after i get my bike it'll be 500kms, so i'm wonderin abt the servicin part, to get it serviced in B'lore or come back home and get it serviced. But it'll be almost 1000kms by the time i reach back home.

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          • #290
            Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

            Originally posted by THE46FAN View Post
            What if i do your way and still get it serviced at 1000kms? Just want to plan it out so there's no confusion later, coz by the time i reach Bangalore after i get my bike it'll be 500kms, so i'm wonderin abt the servicin part, to get it serviced in B'lore or come back home and get it serviced. But it'll be almost 1000kms by the time i reach back home.
            The bike would be fine even if you get it serviced at 1000kms, even more if it comes prefilled with synthetic oil as mentioned by other members here. If its mineral oil, still no issues clocking 1000kms before you get it serviced.
            Just give it some rest in between(15min breaks every 50-60kms) when you are on the highway.

            Its only me I guess who is going to get it serviced by 500kms.
            Don't worry too much, the bike would be fine, just ride her normally without thinking too much about the engine. Get it serviced when you can till 1000km.

            Sent from my GT-I9100
            Why 2wheels over 4.....
            Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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            • #291
              Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

              Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
              Engine braking in simple terms would be: the resistance provided by the engine when you let go the throttle.
              And by occasional bursts of speed I surely mean crossing 7.5k rpm. Take it to say a 9k-9.5k rpm (I would redline it) and try to do this in all gears. Avoid holding on to these speeds for long, 30-45sec bursts should be good enough.
              Rest assured nothing would happen to the engine. Do this without worrying a single bit about your engine.
              Ensure that you change the oil and oil filter during your first service which for me would be way before the recommended 1k kms. Around 500kms max, may be.

              Sent from my GT-I9100
              Are you guaranteeing personally that nothing would happen or saying you know KTM guarantees that nothing will happen, you see the two are quite different. You seem to be too liberal in passing on your experience as advice.

              I feel its is better for those who are new to riding to stick to the manual for run-in period, others who are more experienced should know what/whatnot to do.

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              • #292
                Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

                Originally posted by THE46FAN View Post
                What if i do your way and still get it serviced at 1000kms? Just want to plan it out so there's no confusion later, coz by the time i reach Bangalore after i get my bike it'll be 500kms, so i'm wonderin abt the servicin part, to get it serviced in B'lore or come back home and get it serviced. But it'll be almost 1000kms by the time i reach back home.
                Don't you have service centre in your home town? Is it 500kms aways from your native place.

                Sent from my GT-N7100 using xBhp Connect mobile app

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                • #293
                  Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

                  Originally posted by surencameo View Post

                  One imp thing guys, please help clarify!!! does the duke 390 has cable operated clutch or hydraulically operated clutch. KTM website still says hydraulically operated
                  D390 comes with hydraulic operated clutch, the clutch lever still looks the same but it operates a small cylinder at its end. This is probably the reason a lot of people (including me) stalled the bike in Test rides. D200 has traditional cable operated clutch.

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                  • #294
                    Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

                    Originally posted by chickyheart View Post
                    Don't you have service centre in your home town? Is it 500kms aways from your native place.

                    Sent from my GT-N7100 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                    I do have one at my hometown...just that i wnt have time to get it serviced in B'lore and it'll be 500kms by the time i reach B'lore. So plannin to get it serviced back home.

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                    Originally posted by sparky View Post
                    Are you guaranteeing personally that nothing would happen or saying you know KTM guarantees that nothing will happen, you see the two are quite different. You seem to be too liberal in passing on your experience as advice.

                    I feel its is better for those who are new to riding to stick to the manual for run-in period, others who are more experienced should know what/whatnot to do.
                    I think i'll just ride it normally with engine braking and occasional bursts. I get a feeling it's actually better than just riding it lazily. My experience abt run in is limited, but i have driven few cars of some guys who dnt go beyond 80km/h and who dnt down shift to save fuel, after 5 or 6 thousand kms when u try to accelerate hard they refuse to go fast. They feel as if they are out of breath. So i feel DukeDey's concept should be ok. Let's see...

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                    • #295
                      Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

                      Originally posted by sparky View Post
                      Are you guaranteeing personally that nothing would happen or saying you know KTM guarantees that nothing will happen, you see the two are quite different. You seem to be too liberal in passing on your experience as advice.

                      I feel its is better for those who are new to riding to stick to the manual for run-in period, others who are more experienced should know what/whatnot to do.
                      Well sir, I did not guide him to anything very different from the manual. Occasional high revs that too for 30-45 secs won't harm the engine in any way. Yes, I guarantee. And its a humble request, if you can just keep a check on the way you write. I may have read it wrong but the words did not seem kind.
                      I did pass it on as an advice as per my experience and I am not letting anyone tell me what should I write.

                      I read in another thread today where you mentioned someone not to ask others to buy one particular bike if he owns one. I did not comment then but would do so now. He was just suggesting based on what he liked and that was a good enough and proven suggestion but you just had to keep your point I believe like you quoted me above.
                      Sharing what I know is my duty and taking my advice is upto you. I was not forcing anyone here.

                      Originally posted by sparky View Post
                      D390 comes with hydraulic operated clutch, the clutch lever still looks the same but it operates a small cylinder at its end. This is probably the reason a lot of people (including me) stalled the bike in Test rides. D200 has traditional cable operated clutch.
                      There is no cylinder at the end. It is a cable operated clutch. If you may kindly do your homework before you comment. Now, I don't know why you stalled the bike during test rides.

                      Sent from my GT-I9100
                      Why 2wheels over 4.....
                      Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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                      • #296
                        Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

                        Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                        Well sir, I did not guide him to anything very different from the manual. Occasional high revs that too for 30-45 secs won't harm the engine in any way. Yes, I guarantee. And its a humble request, if you can just keep a check on the way you write. I may have read it wrong but the words did not seem kind.
                        I did pass it on as an advice as per my experience and I am not letting anyone tell me what should I write.

                        Sent from my GT-I9100
                        Sorry, I didn't mean it that way. We get over enthusiastic about what we like and expect everyone to feel so, that's why I commented.

                        Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                        There is no cylinder at the end. It is a cable operated clutch. If you may kindly do your homework before you comment. Now, I don't know why you stalled the bike during test rides.

                        Sent from my GT-I9100
                        You're right, there is no cylinder and the cable is plainly visible in the pictures. Could it be an option for export bikes or a typo in their spec?

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                        • #297
                          Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

                          I am having an eerie feeling that all these threads will get locked Pulsar 375 is already gone!!! :O
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                          • #298
                            Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

                            I wonder where that guy is who is now took delivery of D390 a couple of weeks back. He either forgot to write an ownership report or is too busy burning the rubber!

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                            • #299
                              Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

                              all good now, I can relate to that over excited thing you mentioned.

                              Originally posted by sparky View Post
                              You're right, there is no cylinder and the cable is plainly visible in the pictures. Could it be an option for export bikes or a typo in their spec?

                              Might be a typo after all. I have checked all the international reviews and also pictures of the international 390's but was not able to spot an oil reservoir for the hydraulic clutch unit nor a cylinder around the casing. They never ever mentioned a hydraulic clutch anywhere in the reviews too.

                              Edit: [MENTION=34574]sparky[/MENTION] I am sorry for reacting the way I did. Hope we are good here.

                              Sent from my GT-I9100
                              Last edited by DukeDey; 08-14-2013, 03:19 PM.
                              Why 2wheels over 4.....
                              Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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                              • #300
                                Re: Duke 390: Long Term Ride Review

                                Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                                Edit: @sparky I am sorry for reacting the way I did. Hope we are good here.

                                Sent from my GT-I9100
                                Oh never mind, no big deal.

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