Re: The POWERHOUSE Fz18

Oops...a hefty bill... Can you tell me which of "Tooner's" part is not "Plug and Play"..Like one member quoted it is "Plug and Pray".
At least you got the bike to stock at 10,500/-, I know of many who had paid THREE times that and still have no reliability, or a working Engine....the clever trick the "Tooner" plays is, to first give you a FFE with loud sound...Once you are hooked, the "Head Tuning "will come, and Of course you will have to go to " The Next Level" of BB kit, and you can improve to the "Ultimate Tune" with a 'Race Developed" " Performance" cam....end of the day you have invested close to 40,000/- and in just 5 K Kms have only blown engine, shattered piston,twisted Con rods, and an engine which need Total Rebuild.....

All for Trusting "Plug and Play ".

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I left RC after the FFE, i ran long enough thinking this "Plug and play" thingy and suffered for it,, but being bajaj i had a comparatively lesser bill. So I removed the FFE and learnt about this stuff, this thread did help a lot. Even since I have been advising people about this "plug and play" bullshit is nothing but marketing gimmick and explain them the risk involved.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

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@krish2778

ah aha aha....

never expected you here... so how many else out there with RC??? why does not someone file a lawsuit against this guy who screws our beloved machine? a simple cheating case will do... if done in a group its better.

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Yes Abroad it is a different scene..They quote how much bump in power and every kit comes with dyno figures...some even ask you what compression levels you will want, and state very clearly what should be the Petrol RON you should use.....more than anything they are proven modifications and the suppliers give guarantee on what they claim..
our "Tooner had picked up a few Catchy words from them and use it to impress/trap the un informed .
The RC FFE is nothing but a bent tube with a muffler at the end...the design is so bad that it looses the Fiber glass inside...So when you ride with it you will be spraying glass wool in small pieces ,at the people coming behind you, which if their face is not guarded, will get into their Lungs . God knows how many are suffering due to no fault of theirs...

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This is a small number compared to the people who have come to me for solution,since the"Tooner" doesn't pickup the phone, is busy with Race "Season" or with R&D works ...
Thanks to this Parts Supplier many have learned to tune the engine themselves , Better than the "Tooner" who knows nothing about it...

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There is a saying,"Prevention is better than cure". Just avoid this Tooner like a plague and prevent others from falling into the trap and there you have it.. with dwindling sales the plague will disappear by itself just like it appeared many eons ago..

I hope this thread is the very first step towards it and i am glad that many riders have now found the courage to come forward and share their side of the story..


Cheers,

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Bhai that quote doesn't apply to all, there are some who are too adamant, especially the above post made by my friend, Aditya who even after knowing all this went ahead and wasted 10k for shit, . . We can educate people about this but to take it in a positive approach or to leave it is left to the person. . .
[MENTION=23956]Legend Racer[/MENTION] about the complaint part, the cop is going to first ask you, were you all eating shit when you knew he was a cheat. . ? Knowingly knowingly our people fall to trap, hope at least from this many have learnt, especially my friend [MENTION=55394]Aditya N Bharadwaj[/MENTION] and think 1000 times before putting their hands into such idiotic things. . .

Cheers!!!

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Everybody makes a mistake.. in exchange your friend, rider @Aditya N Bharadwaj learned something valuable and had the courage to share things out in the open. I personally believe he now has more support and respect from his peers and riders of this community. There are many others on xbhp and other forums who initially raved a lot about the "BIG BLOWN KITS" and then later simply vanished...

I too was no different 2 years back.. but this exercise took me to new heights in terms of knowledge gained, knowledge shared with you all and in the due process also exposing the scam of the Tooner which seems to be garnering a lot of support and interest judging by the crazy site hits this thread is receiving per day.

Thank you for all the support and especially to the riders who have come out in the open sharing their side of story. Believe me!! you are helping a lot of other Noobs and unsuspecting riders in the process from falling into the trap..


Cheers,

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you dont have to answer to any cop. a registered fraud case is a case filed before the respected court. claiming of tons of horses after mod and ruining the bike in the name of R & D. try to understand that this is something like the old famous money chain frauds. put 1 get 10 later. all those guys are behind bars...
this is fraud.
i try to promote xbhp everywhere i go, to every biker i talk with... just because i like the knowledge to spread, but what ever lets not forget that, xbhp still lives on screen and very less on streets.
to avoid noobs from getting trapped in RC, the best option is to make him busy in court proceedings rather than race sessions....

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Machane... I invested in the FFE in 2011, it was different story about it, my stock exhaust got damaged and the svc guys told there is no other option but to replace it and a fresh one costed 10k , so i went for the cheaper option which was the RC, and at that time he had a really good rep on the initial reviews only.
Then i almost ran over 30k kms with the FFE installed and by then the odo clicked to 50k and it was time for a rebuild anyway, and then i slowly understood the problems it was causing and slowly learnt, I did not jump into conclusions took time and learned form many people , got to talk to more people.

So, I understood that nothing as this "Plug and play" exist for hot rodding and "Stock like reliability" is almost impossible to attain even for expert tuning houses , let alone a guy who claims to have it for his kits.

And you know what the best part is , when i went ot change the exhaust to my damaged stock one, the mech in my area just took it to a shop and cam back in 5 min with a small weld mark in the header pipe and the problem was solved with a mere expense of 50 rs. But i never regretted buying the exhaust, it gave me a lot to learn about this hot rodding area.

I do not know how far you can build a case against this, i never had a bill of purchase to prove i traded with him, and the payment was just a deposit to his personal account , again not a valid proof showing that i payed RC any money or they supplied me with the said parts. So you see the problem in it.


Exactly sir, true words.


Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

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He definitely has the support then and now and in the future, no doubt about that. . . Saying again, our people got to learn, there are two ways for them, one is to see others and learn, other is to pay hefty like the above and learn from the mistakes, it's up to people to choose which is the best for them. . .
[MENTION=23956]Legend Racer[/MENTION], filing a case isn't that easy as you thought, they won't just take your cases, they ask for blah blah blah let's not start about this here , . . Yup I too hope that people do that so that he learns his lesson and hope they get their hard earned money back. . .

Cheers!!!

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That wont happen my friend. There is no detailed account or a printed invoice of what purchases you made or if there was a purchase at all. Just one sticker on the swingarm cant become proof. Business was done like buying a spark plug off some local automotive shop albeit an extra 5 minutes spent on his laptop to enter our details so that he can report back to us in case we face issues (read as, to mail us more details of his products with the bulletproof label; like we take our bikes to war) If you push a lot, the best you can get is a replacement for the big bore, with another big bore, who knows of what size and shape this time.

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@ Shv18......From many posts here and PMs I had received, you had saved many from loosing money and peace of mind .

Many of the BOLD and Forthright members who had shared their experience from Novice who is this thread starter to Adithya Bharadwaj, .... you People have exposed the ways of the Parts Supplier, and SAVED many from committing the same Mistake....
I hope other affected members are Equally forthright and post here to stop this robbery..

My experience tells me that it is the Beginning of the End to the cheating by the Parts Supplier , and we will get more posts exposing the devious ways of the Parts supplier...

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I hope you saw my pic I posted before so as to you wouldn't speak this way. . . I'm not speaking just about you and only you, there are lots of others who took from him, they didn't visit him, you get it , . . Dude it's too simple job, just use your brains and everything works fine. . . Anyways it's up to you guys to decide if you want to file a complaint or not but other than that really appreciate all for coming out and speaking bold, . .

Cheers!!!

Re: The POWERHOUSE Fz18

Well lets wait and watch how many more customers received a full fledged tax invoice showing in detail the purchases, services, tax levied and total bill amount eh?

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You are absolutely right......
In fact an RTR owner who went for the Big Bulshit kit had a seizure in less than 3,000 kms. the replacement kit ran for another 2 K and met with same fate...The owner had initially sent his stock bore and Piston to reduce the kit cost, and he now wanted it back, so that he can revert to stock.He paid for the reversal....He got only a bore severely scratched and when the Mechanic measured the bore's inner dia, the bore was large,..... it was bigger than the last oversize piston...This was a bore used elsewhere, had seized and condemned....Needless to say the owner bought a complete new bore kit from TVS and fitted it...So even the replacement kit will turn out to be a Lemon.