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Finding 10W40 Mineral is hard.What's the problem with 20W40?You not satisfied?Use mineral oil upto 6000kms.For 20W40 oil you can try Gulf Pride 4T Plus 20W40,Valvoline 4t 20W40,Shell Advance AX5 20W40,etc and both of them is priced under 300rs.Your bike had ran nearly 950kms after the oil change,So i recommend an oil change now.Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
Last edited by Aneesh@4GHz; 09-17-2011, 09:26 AM.Karizma Parts Manual - https://picasaweb.google.com/1010125...rizmaCatalogue
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only thing causing problem is COLD START, it doesnt start in one go. have to put CHOKE on for atleast a minute or so for proper oil flow,so i was thinking may be 10W40 is better option to go for in wintersOriginally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View PostFinding 10W40 Mineral is hard.What's the problem with 20W40?You not satisfied?Use mineral oil upto 6000kms.For 20W40 oil you can try Gulf Pride 4T Plus 20W40,Valvoline 4t 20W40,Shell Advance AX5 20W40,etc and both of them is priced under 300rs.Your bike had ran nearly 950kms after the oil change,So i recommend an oil change now.
. m thinking of oil change pretty soon, Motul/Gulf is in my list. Though i m pretty happy with the castrol 4T 20W40,but wanna give'em a try!!!
Which one in motul shud i go for??sigpic
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Motul 3000 4 T Plus 20W40,I think 10W40 is not available from motul.Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View PostWhich one in motul shud i go for??
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Changed my oil today, it was thin and dark brown. i was told dat it has lost its thickness. Couldnt find motul or gulf nearby. Had to fill Castrol 20W40...sigpic
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Lost its thickness @ 950km?? Better change the oil to gulf next time,Even though there was only a slight change in the color of the oil when i checked @ 1800km and was still going strong.Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View PostChanged my oil today, it was thin and dark brown. i was told dat it has lost its thickness. Couldnt find motul or gulf nearby. Had to fill Castrol 20W40...
Search for Gulf or Motul somewhere else for the next oil change.
Karizma Parts Manual - https://picasaweb.google.com/1010125...rizmaCatalogue
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^^
Thank you brother. . . ! Now ready to ride.
Whole of this day, from 9am to 7pm i was busy with getting all those paper works done. i cant be lazy atleast for this
. Got all of them ready and at the end got ma ride at 6.30pm
. Rode it for 10km from SVC to home. Friends, i felt that the engine is a little rough now and i think its because it is new. Gear shifting is not so hard, but when i shift UP from 1st to second, false neutrals are there often. Need your comments to reduce my tension. 
Park Lamps are superb, and i admire them a lot. Thanks Hero Honda(Yup, i said hero honda i love it
)
Temporary permits will be ready within three days. It wold have been ready by Monday, but its Harthal, against petrol price hike, here in Kerala. Thanks all those people who helped me out here to take a decision on buying a bike. Thanks a lot to our family, xBhp...
I would like to post a detailed review after doin a couple more kilometers.
I Thank Almighty for giving me what my heart wished.
Last edited by Crank49; 09-17-2011, 11:47 PM.Down to Gehenna or up to the Throne, He travels the fastest who travels alone...
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Using choke to cold-start , and then keeping the choke ON for about a min or riding with choke ON for half a km is the correct way to start your bike for the day . If your bike cold-starts in mornings first stroke of kick/self without choke , your mixture is fuel-richOriginally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Postonly thing causing problem is COLD START, it doesnt start in one go. have to put CHOKE on for atleast a minute or so for proper oil flow,so i was thinking may be 10W40 is better option to go for in winters
. m thinking of oil change pretty soon, Motul/Gulf is in my list. Though i m pretty happy with the castrol 4T 20W40,but wanna give'em a try!!!
Which one in motul shud i go for??
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For you I have already suggested - 10w30 gulf pride 4t / 10w30 motul 3000 4T plus / 10w30 ELF motogold fuel economy oils for Dehradun winters .
In summer you should shift to 20w40 of the same oils gulf/motul/elf . Castrol is better than them in advertising only .
10w40 is not difficult , but impossible to obtain in mineral oils . Your engine is young , you need minerals for now . After 10k kms , you can shift to full synthetic - pocket permitting .
There are other practical considerations with synthetic oils too . Like it lasts really long in kms , but just like minerals you have to use up those kms in six months max .Unless you ride past the useful kms of a good synthetic in six months , it's wasteful . This is why I have not shifted to synthetic yet
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If you have already filled fresh 20w40 mineral now , no need to waste it .. it'll do perfectly fine in winters .. albeit with a bit of warming up in the mornings .. no hay problema
. Even me needs a warm tea/coffee spiked with brandy to leave bed in chilly winter mornings
.
Last edited by Pinaki; 09-18-2011, 12:22 AM.
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Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Postonly thing causing problem is COLD START, it doesnt start in one go. have to put CHOKE on for atleast a minute or so for proper oil flow,so i was thinking may be 10W40 is better option to go for in winters
. m thinking of oil change pretty soon, Motul/Gulf is in my list. Though i m pretty happy with the castrol 4T 20W40,but wanna give'em a try!!!
Which one in motul shud i go for??Originally posted by madhav krishna View PostHeres my way of starting my bike(yamaha gladiator) in mornings. I guess the same applies to all the non-fi motorcycles except pulsar (autochoke).
First open the choke fully and use the kick starter to start the bike. With the choke ON the rpm shoots up for a while. In meanwhile depress the clutch lever for a few times. This is done to release the sticky clutch plates. Now after a few seconds the rpm comes to normal idle rpm & at that time close the choke. Then ride the bike for a 3-4kms with rpm around 4k. After that your engine should be warmed up enough & you can ride as you like.
Hope this helps.
Sorry sir but cant agree with the above statement. Even my bike starts in a single kick when cold sometimes but i dont think that the fuel is rich since its giving a mileage of 50+. It differs on different bikes.Originally posted by Pinaki View PostUsing choke to cold-start , and then keeping the choke ON for about a min or riding with choke ON for half a km is the correct way to start your bike for the day . If your bike cold-starts in mornings first stroke of kick/self without choke , your mixture is fuel-rich
.NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT
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Originally posted by madhav krishna View PostSorry sir but cant agree with the above statement. Even my bike starts in a single kick when cold sometimes but i dont think that the fuel is rich since its giving a mileage of 50+. It differs on different bikes.
It's ok if you not agree with me all the time
.. however , this is page 20 of splendor+ owner's manual ( which I could find handy on my desk ryt now ) .. owner's manual of every bike I've had ( herohonda,tvs, yamaha,yezdi etc) said the exact same thing as far as I can remember . Please confirm me from your bike's "starting the engine" page if it does differ
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Practically , yes .. in summers I too hardly use the choke .Last edited by Pinaki; 09-18-2011, 02:02 AM.
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Congartz on ur new ride bro..mine has done 408 on odo..bike was bit rough,changd engine oil at 365km.nw feels better.I've never driven above 49kmph.tke xtreme care of ur xtreme during running in period.ride safe.Originally posted by Crank49 View Post^^
Thank you brother. . . ! Now ready to ride.
Whole of this day, from 9am to 7pm i was busy with getting all those paper works done. i cant be lazy atleast for this
. Got all of them ready and at the end got ma ride at 6.30pm
. Rode it for 10km from SVC to home. Friends, i felt that the engine is a little rough now and i think its because it is new. Gear shifting is not so hard, but when i shift UP from 1st to second, false neutrals are there often. Need your comments to reduce my tension. 
Park Lamps are superb, and i admire them a lot. Thanks Hero Honda(Yup, i said hero honda i love it
)
Temporary permits will be ready within three days. It wold have been ready by Monday, but its Harthal, against petrol price hike, here in Kerala. Thanks all those people who helped me out here to take a decision on buying a bike. Thanks a lot to our family, xBhp...
I would like to post a detailed review after doin a couple more kilometers.
I Thank Almighty for giving me what my heart wished.
diE anOthEr DaY;RidE toDaY
cbz classic,the oldest- 2009 to 2011 n sold
Cbz xtreme,the latest-2011 5k n counting......
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Sticking to 20W40 for now....Originally posted by Pinaki View PostUsing choke to cold-start , and then keeping the choke ON for about a min or riding with choke ON for half a km is the correct way to start your bike for the day .
Hmm, thats wat i am used to now, but in case i forget to turn it OFF, it will harm my engine na??i've read somewhere in xbhp forums where someone left it open for around 500Km
If your bike cold-starts in mornings first stroke of kick/self without choke , your mixture is fuel-rich
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Thats exactly why i didnt have this problem 25 days back (before tuning my carb)
For you I have already suggested - 10w30 gulf pride 4t / 10w30 motul 3000 4T plus / 10w30 ELF motogold fuel economy oils for Dehradun winters .
In summer you should shift to 20w40 of the same oils gulf/motul/elf . Castrol is better than them in advertising only .
10w40 is not difficult , but impossible to obtain in mineral oils . Your engine is young , you need minerals for now . After 10k kms , you can shift to full synthetic - pocket permitting .
There are other practical considerations with synthetic oils too . Like it lasts really long in kms , but just like minerals you have to use up those kms in six months max .Unless you ride past the useful kms of a good synthetic in six months , it's wasteful . This is why I have not shifted to synthetic yet
.
If you have already filled fresh 20w40 mineral now , no need to waste it .. it'll do perfectly fine in winters .. albeit with a bit of warming up in the mornings .. no hay problema
. Even me needs a warm tea/coffee spiked with brandy to leave bed in chilly winter mornings
Wat a comparison
..thanks sir...
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Yikes..Originally posted by Pinaki View Postkeeping the choke ON for about a min or riding with choke ON for half a km is the correct way to start your bike for the day .
But PSR Ji said keeping choke for more than 5secs will create carbon deposits on the top of the pistons!.
Nothing's wrong bro,I had tuned my Karizma's carb and set it to a bit rich for better throttle response still i gets 31 in city and 41 in highways.Originally posted by madhav krishna View PostEven my bike starts in a single kick when cold sometimes but i dont think that the fuel is rich since its giving a mileage of 50+. It differs on different bikes.
Karizma Parts Manual - https://picasaweb.google.com/1010125...rizmaCatalogue
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R u sure psr'jee said / meant that ? Herohonda manuals say warm-up for few secs , but I distinctly remember my Yamaha manuals says "choke on until fully warmed up or ride with choke on for few kms until warmed up fully" .. been doing this for ages now ... never checked for carbon on pistons though .. gotta ask psr now
Yes , a bit richer mix can be beneficial in some situations .. than a bit leaner mix . In signal-to-signal city traffic you'll get smooth idle waiting at the reds , a bit cooler engine , wee bit more low-end-torque and first-kick starts every-time it goes green
.. for example .
Good idea . Hunt for gulf/motul next refill though ... you'll feel the diff . You can get yamalube from any yamaha service center too .. that oil is motul only .. very good .Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View PostSticking to 20W40 for now....
Well you've forgotten , what can you do about it later ? .. it's fait accompliOriginally posted by itssaurabh.negi View PostHmm, thats wat i am used to now, but in case i forget to turn it OFF, it will harm my engine na??....
. Better forget abt it too .. i'm sure your bike won't mind ....not for 500kms though please
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Last edited by Pinaki; 09-18-2011, 02:57 PM.
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IIRC he mentioned it in a post,Better ask him.Originally posted by Pinaki View PostR u sure psr'jee said / meant that ?

First self start too.es , a bit richer mix can be beneficial in some situations .. than a bit leaner mix . In signal-to-signal city traffic you'll get smooth idle waiting at the reds , a bit cooler engine , wee bit more low-end-torque and first-kick starts every-time it goes green
Karizma Parts Manual - https://picasaweb.google.com/1010125...rizmaCatalogue
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@Pinaki Sir,
Hehe...I believe HeroMC doesnt like that idea. Cause my choke automatically pulls back when I let go of the switch.
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