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**Sumondatta** · 01-14-2012, 09:01 AM

5 to 1 should be possible in one clutch engaging. But it is not advised.
It causes the gears to grind with each other unnecessarily.
Though when you are coming to a speed breaker, 5-1 is only possible way for me.
I never felt any stuck gear in yamaha or TVS whatsoever.

**ashwinprakas** · 01-14-2012, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Sumondatta View Post

5 to 1 should be possible in one clutch engaging.

True, but not on all bikes.

But it is not advised.

True.

It causes the gears to grind with each other unnecessarily.

True.

Though when you are coming to a speed breaker, 5-1 is only possible way for me.

Try the method I've posted above. It'll be hard at first, but with practice it can be done with least effort possible.

I never felt any stuck gear in yamaha or TVS whatsoever.

The gears getting stuck only happens once in a while, when I was a novice, I used to shift from 5~1 with only one clutch press and these are the few scenario's I've noticed.

1. Successful attempt.
2. Grinding (Karr...Karr) at 3~2 or 1~2.
3. Getting stuck i.e even when we downshift the there wont be a click and the gear wont engage.

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**Sumondatta** · 01-14-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

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I try last I saw your [ I am not sure] in SZ X Thread I suppose - { 1 gear 1 clutch while downshifting ].
But when approaching a speedbreaker Keeping brake and engaging and disengaging clutch for each gear is still tough for me.
But as for my knowledge says, It will not harm gears for a long time. May be minimal damage on sprocket because of engaging lower gear suddenly. That's why it is not advisable.

**itssaurabh.negi** · 01-14-2012, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

Those thick rubber/foam grips are positively dangerous when wet . I yanked mine off ryt on a rainy day ride many many years ago and never fitted any other grip over the OE ones ever since .

in what way sir ? can u explain further ? are they slippery ?? btw i dont use gloves

**ashwinprakas** · 01-14-2012, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Sumondatta View Post

I try last I saw your [ I am not sure] in SZ X Thread I suppose - { 1 gear 1 clutch while downshifting ].

Yeah.

But when approaching a speedbreaker Keeping brake and engaging and disengaging clutch for each gear is still tough for me.

If you practice you can do it bro, heck! even I can do it. And that too since am a rookie when it comes to bikes(started riding from last July.).

But as for my knowledge says, It will not harm gears for a long time. May be minimal damage on sprocket because of engaging lower gear suddenly. That's why it is not advisable.

Am not an expert, but this is what I've gathered. The DOGS(or what they're called.) will get worn out faster and will eventually result in gear slippage. And hence would require an early transmission overhaul.

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**itssaurabh.negi** · 01-14-2012, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Sumondatta View Post

5 to 1 should be possible in one clutch engaging. But it is not advised.
It causes the gears to grind with each other unnecessarily.
Though when you are coming to a speed breaker, 5-1 is only possible way for me.
I never felt any stuck gear in yamaha or TVS whatsoever.

for me best practice on a sudden speed breaker or something is to downshift from 5th to 3rd,declutch,3rd to 1

**segagt_0** · 01-14-2012, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

I have absolute sympathy for your feeling and I myself hate that hot & harsh feeling from an engine , when raising the throttle doesn't seem to translate to pick-up anymore . I have to ride to my native village about 80kms away a few times a month and I look with great anticipation towards these weekend/holiday rides as a rare escape from the city traffic and commuting I have to do daily . Don't want it to be spoiled by a noisy unresponsive bike . But .. but .. I would say that you just need to be pateint & run it in a little more for the cbzx to wear in until around 10000 kms it would still be getting smoother and cooler everyday . This will be aided by 1500-2000 kms oil changes well until after 10k kms too . Use 20w40 motul . This has been my own experience . Have the cold rpm tuned a bit lower , around 1000 . Postpone the decision until 10k kms .

Those thick rubber/foam grips are positively dangerous when wet . I yanked mine off ryt on a rainy day ride many many years ago and never fitted any other grip over the OE ones ever since .

Thank u Saurabh and pinaki sir for ur kind thoughts. Actually m planning to get a liquid cooled engine.. Maybe a Yamaha.. I don't think I'll be much comfortable in the r15 compared to the xtreme in riding posture but it's just about the engine. My cold idling rpm is 1000 and 1600 when hot. Anyways will take some time and think over again.

**Pinaki** · 01-14-2012, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post

in what way sir ? can u explain further ? are they slippery ?? btw i dont use gloves

Yess, they slip like anything when wet . Now while you are riding in rain mud and slush , you can imagine ... slippery roads, slippery brakes, slippery tyres + slippery handles

. The bare oem handle grips may be hard and ugly , but they usually give you the surest grip on the handles in all conditions . I like the straight ribbed ones of the older yamaha bikes

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**pravinan** · 01-14-2012, 05:55 PM

reliable

date of purchase: august 8 2009..
kilometres: 28,324 as on january 13th 2012...

nothing can be compared to the cbz-xtreme...the reliable bike...very low..if not no maintence...

only changed brake shoes thrice...front disk pads once...oil filter once...then periodic services...i have done several long tours...the bike gives a sense of rush when you twist the throttle...

top speed: 118
with k&n: 125...

headlight aren't good...recently i have upgraded to 55/60w..other bikes i had/have....pulsar150 ug3, discover 125 2003..splendour 2000..karizma r 2011...

the bike is definately xtreme...u can afford to live off the edge...

**itssaurabh.negi** · 01-14-2012, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by segagt_0 View Post

Thank u Saurabh and pinaki sir for ur kind thoughts. Actually m planning to get a liquid cooled engine.. Maybe a Yamaha.. I don't think I'll be much comfortable in the r15 compared to the xtreme in riding posture but it's just about the engine. My cold idling rpm is 1000 and 1600 when hot. Anyways will take some time and think over again.

By the way how much did it cost you there?? around 1.5 Lakhs or even more ??

**abhisheklalnediya** · 01-14-2012, 10:35 PM

i am getting a milage of 55~57 on NH when i pour 1l petrol and drive it off in a trip

but some times if i pour 1l and ride some, keep it a day or two doing short rides of abt 8~10 kms max, i am getting only 40~43 or some times under 35 if the number of days increase(abt 4days).

is this usual having such a big difference ?

as i dont have a car shed , i park my cbc under the shade of a tree and cover it with a cover which i got on purchase time, and i don't think sun is eating up my petrol.

no petrol leaks, any chance for large opening and excess petrol vaporization through key hole?

**ashwinprakas** · 01-14-2012, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by abhisheklalnediya View Post

i am getting a milage of 55~57 on NH when i pour 1l petrol and drive it off in a trip

but some times if i pour 1l and ride some, keep it a day or two doing short rides of abt 8~10 kms max, i am getting only 40~43 or some times under 35 if the number of days increase(abt 4days).

is this usual having such a big difference ?

as i dont have a car shed , i park my cbc under the shade of a tree and cover it with a cover which i got on purchase time, and i don't think sun is eating up my petrol.

no petrol leaks, any chance for large opening and excess petrol vaporization through key hole?

Suspect the carb bowl drain bolt. Inspect the drain tube for any fresh petrol stains.

**abhisheklalnediya** · 01-14-2012, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Suspect the carb bowl drain bolt. Inspect the drain tube for any fresh petrol stains.

how to do that?
where is this carb bowl drain bolt and drain tube located?

**sooraj_vs** · 01-14-2012, 10:51 PM

Got the 4th service done. Feels refreshed.
Only thing bugging is the irritating tappet noise. The engine sounds perfectly fine when cold. But after riding some 10-15kms, its like coins put in a paint can.

SVC guys never get it right. Can't let local ones fiddle with it; they may not even know the correct clearance.
Whats the way outta here.. ?

**ashwinprakas** · 01-14-2012, 10:57 PM

The screw shown within the red circle is the drain bolt. And the tube can be found near it.

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