Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

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Bike : Dio (2011 - 102cc)
Can we interchange front & rear tyre along with rim? Coz, I see [s]six[/s] four bolts on each rim that hold them in place.

Front tyre has sufficient thread depth to last another 3 years(assuming everything goes well). But Rear-Tyre looks like it can hold another year.

Can we use to Kerosene instead of Diesel for flushing? Coz, Kerosene can be availed at provision stores with ease.

PS: StrikeThrough BB-Code is not working !!!

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Got Activa (110) serviced, did more than 50k on odo. Total cost incurred 4k including labor charges, number of spares were changed too.

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Yes, front and rear tires & rims are exactly the same and can be interchanged.
The stock zapper front tire on my dio lasted around 7yrs & around 40k km if i remember. The stock zappers on the rear used to wear out around 14k km. This time on the rear i've used ceat's and they seem to last much longer.. they have done around 12k look like they would last another 8k

Why do you want to flush ? If the engine oil has been changed regularly at around 2500km, there is no need of any flush. Btw, diesel is easier to procure than kerosene just walk in to any petrol bunk and get a litre.

Coming to the brake shoes.. you will be surprised to hear that my dio still runs on the stock brake shoes in the front even after almost 8yrs now and more than 45k km! and i do use the front brake.. but what i do is avoid unnecessary braking, i rather slow down when i know that i am going to have to stop (at traffic etc..) and just use the brakes at the last moment to bring the bike to a complete halt.
Even a few days ago when i went in for a service (i thought the shoes might need replacement and this time bought the 'ask' brand shoes, and oh my they cost just 80rs!!). On inspecting the front it was found to be good enough for say another 5k km based on my usage. When i compared the oem shoes (rear has been replaced once) with the 'ask' brand, i could notice that the oem was heavier compared to the 'ask' brand. The liners i think would be more or less the same. The mech was saying 'oem is oem.. y dont u just see how light those ask ones are' - So it struck me "probably the metal part of the brake shoes is what is going to cost more to manufacture compared to the liner itself" and these ask brake shoes did not come with the springs while the oem ones came with springs. The honda oem brake shoes i think cost around 170rs IIRC.

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can you post a pic of the bill or the list of parts replaced and their costs.

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Thanks,
Front & rear tyre+rim interchanged successfully. I thought somewhat flatter worn-out tyre would give trouble when placed on front. I couldn't notice much during test-ride.

Got to do this interchange on dad's Access125 at native.

There will be trade-off I guess. On the contrary, I was thinking about putting Zapper on my Access125.
I'm not flushing now, just deciding on a method to follow when need arises. Diesel+Oil mixture in 5:1 ratio it is then.
If you ask me, I would lean towards effectiveness and ease of access & price. Honda SVC is just few kms from home, so I wouldn't mind coughing ₹ 170/- for brake shoes that last just 15,000 kms.

Hard time removing 24mm rear-axle-nut:


Since there is only one end, I wasn't able to counter the spanner torque on 24mm nut. So, I had to

• put the tyre back on
• rest the scooter on side stand
• sit on the rear of seat
• tightly squeeze rear-brake lever
• stamp on the 24mm ring-spanner with my leg
• bingo!!! the nut turned
• reverse procedure for tightening.

Brake Shoes: There was more than 50% lining on the brake shoes. Left me wondering whether drum lining is wearing fast. Anyway, brake-shoes on the to-buy list. Come to think of it, we're wasting so much lining on brake shoes; not to mention the metal-shoe itself. Do they(OEM) recycle brake shoes?

Switch Problems: We were facing few issues with upper/dipper & horn switches. Upper(high-beam) was engaging fine but needed to continuously press the switch to engage dipper(low-beam). This was happening only when we were trying to switch between beams. Horn switch was getting stuck at on position when engaged. It caused unnecessary nuisance with long horns while riding in slow moving traffic.

In that spirit, I removed all switches and dismantled them. Cleaned with water & brush then wiped/dried. Applied caliper-grease(I don't have water-phobic grease) where required and put them back. Beware, there are small springs, balls & contacts inside. Switches seem to work fine now.

Question: I noticed a hole at the end of drive/rear-axle, is it meant for a catch/latch-pin?

Cheers

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Yes, it is for quarter pin .but since lock nut is used no need to use it



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Yep, I noticed wobbles and that time I had both my hands off the handle. It sure did chip away some of my confidence.

Just bought a set of brake-shoes from Honda SVC:

It cost me 235/- per set. Now you got me thinking about Ask-Brand for its affordability, hehe.

Well, I was alone. Besides, I can't work when someone is overlooking .

Our Dio has a lock-nut. As [MENTION=48004]vvk1987[/MENTION] points out, it should be alright.

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If you look at that pic closer, you will notice the word 'ASK' on it (marked with green ink) probably ask is the oem supplier to honda. But they could also be making low cost varieties and not only that, honda spares tend to get pricier day by day!

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Jeezy creezy, I didn't expect it to be from ASK.
Ask is selling sub-standard on the side, perhaps coz there is an infringement clause in agreement with Honda. I'll make a note to enquire about Ask brake shoes when I visit city-market area next time.

May be Honda is cashing in its chips as things get unpredictable in a competitive market.

Update: My sister liked the front suspension work & pointed out that it has certainly become softer/comfortable. That brings me to Earls-Fork; there is very little info on it over the internet.

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Yeh, every manufacturer sources a lot of such parts from local vendors. The manufacturer gives out specifications to these vendors and parts are manufactured to those specs.
While the 'local' ask aftermarket brake shoes need not necessarily meet those specs.. but they will be of the right size/shape to fit in. And as i said before, I am sure the brake liners themselves will be more or less the same while the metal portion seems to be lighter (and maybe different metallurgy) to save on costs. And ask being a oem supplier, it's my belief that they would hold up well. (comes from my experience of using 'makino' brake shoes long ago on my previous bikes)

Not only Honda, almost any branded oem parts will always have much higher prices in most cases, with bajaj being much better off on their parts prices (if you remember the case against car manufacturers recently where they were fined & ruling was that owners be allowed to use 'compatible' parts and allow these kind of oem vendor products to be sold and used, hence lowering costs for owners)

btw can you post a pic of the rear lock nut you were talking about ? but again, if there was a split pin earlier, you should put one in place.

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Let's hope these Authorized-Spares-Distributor and independent-spares' points get well established.
Here it is:

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Hello guys i own a 2011 activa dlx blue colour i changed today airfilter first time in 16000 kms it costed abt 270 rs my speedometer wire is also gone and acceleration has become hard can anybody tell cost of 3
1.Filter
2.Speedometer wire
3.Acceleration wire

I was quoted 110rs for speedo wire
And abt 250rs for acceleration wire

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Ask to see the packet and look at the mrp on the packing. It's as simple as that. ASC will charge you at mrp + tax, but if you buy it at a local spares shop you may get atleast a 10% discount on mrp. Of course other non oem cables might be available for cheaper prices. Rs.250 for the throttle cable seems expensive to me, but again as i mentioned earlier, these honda spares prices are going thru the roof!
I haven't had a need to replace any of cables thus far on my 8yr old dio.

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Hey guys, i have a Honda Aviator 2012 dlx variant. I am having a problem with it, which is that if my vehicle is above 30kmph and suddenly a pothole comes or even those mini spead breakers (that are made of asphalt and are placed one after the other in a sequence) and if it goes through the pothole. then the whole vehicle shifts left to right or right to left without me even trying. Had asked my local mechanic to look over it, he didn't found any problems with the tyres but he said that i should go to the ASC and ask them for alignment. But when i asked the ASC guy he told me that the company service centers do not have any wheel alignment machine and after looking and driving it he came to the conclusion that i should change the foundation bush, at which the engine is resting. Please help as i cannot come to a solution.
Will post the photo of the foundation bush that he was suggesting, that i should get replaced.

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Its difficult to point to the cause of this without riding the scoot. But since you say the ASC mech advised you to get the foundation bushes replaced, then do that.
Ask them to also check if the rear wheel bearing is ok. It can be easily identified if you hold the wheel with both hands and shake it, there should be almost no play in the wheel.. and also you might feel that the back end is 'loose' when you ride a scoot with a bad rear wheel bearing.
And if your scoot is under warranty then this foundation bush replacement could be done under warranty.. just ask them firmly and email honda customer care too.
Ideally it should not give up in just two years unless the scoot has been used very rashly carrying too much weight and constantly ridden over very bad roads.
This foundation replacement is pretty easy for the asc to do it in around 45mins.