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**SparKot** · 12-01-2014, 07:30 PM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Originally posted by s1d View Post

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nope, i dont. but i remember posting a parts manual of the dio (uk model, called the scv lead) on this thread. 99% of parts are same except for the carb/airfilter.

Originally posted by s1d View Post

I was able to find an older parts manual for the SCV100 Lead, i.e. the older Dio (102cc) in our Indian market. ...
This can be used a reference for sourcing parts/service. It can be downloaded from Dio-102cc.pdf

Yes, I downloaded it then.

**curve_king** · 12-01-2014, 10:49 PM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Thanks [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION] , [MENTION=64883]Lokesh027[/MENTION]

**V!RU$** · 12-02-2014, 01:02 AM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Originally posted by s1d View Post

I think the current models are all tubeless. If its a tubeless tire, the same will be mentioned on the tire itself. There will be a pdi checklist (either on the owners manual or in their service/delivery manual), ask them to follow it in your presence . Give it a visual inspection and then just start the engine and check for any weird noises and the electricals. check the oil level and finally make sure you've got all the documents from them like the owners manual/insurance/reg/tool kit/first aid kit..

Got a call from showroom today to pick up the vehicle ...
There were 3 white activa's I was overjoyed but when I saw the TVS tubeless tyre on it
I immediately turned it down
Seeing my firm decision they asked me to wait for the next batch...

Let's hope I get mrf's
As this scooter is for dad I don't want any compromises on safety

Also they are not giving the delivery without basic accessories
Which are about Rs. 1911
But that's the situation in every showroom here

**s1d** · 12-02-2014, 01:46 AM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Originally posted by V!RU$ View Post

Got a call from showroom today to pick up the vehicle ...
There were 3 white activa's I was overjoyed but when I saw the TVS tubeless tyre on it
I immediately turned it down
Seeing my firm decision they asked me to wait for the next batch...

Let's hope I get mrf's
As this scooter is for dad I don't want any compromises on safety

Also they are not giving the delivery without basic accessories
Which are about Rs. 1911
But that's the situation in every showroom here

Do they come with mrf tubeless too ? I thought tvs tubeless was the only option. And i do not think they are bad. Don't expect miracles from the mrf's in the wet. On dry roads, i havent seen much of a difference between ceat and mrf.. and i have driven my cousins activa with tvs tubeless.. i did not find anything wrong with it.
Honda considers the number plates, side stand and the floor mat as accessories. Apart from this, if they are forcing you to pay up for stuff like the all round body/crash guard ,'teflon' coating, seat covers etc.. they give them a firm NO and do write to Honda on their email or thru their website.

**V!RU$** · 12-02-2014, 02:27 AM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Originally posted by s1d View Post

Do they come with mrf tubeless too ? I thought tvs tubeless was the only option. And i do not think they are bad. Don't expect miracles from the mrf's in the wet. On dry roads, i havent seen much of a difference between ceat and mrf.. and i have driven my cousins activa with tvs tubeless.. i did not find anything wrong with it.
Honda considers the number plates, side stand and the floor mat as accessories. Apart from this, if they are forcing you to pay up for stuff like the all round body/crash guard ,'teflon' coating, seat covers etc.. they give them a firm NO and do write to Honda on their email or thru their website.

Thanks for the quick reply bro

It's the problems with tvs tires that are making me think otherwise
Just head over to Pulsar 200ns thread and see the phrases like 'euroslips'...

My friend got a warped tyre from showroom on his Pulsar150

I don't know if they are giving mrf also
Maybe the showroom wanted sometime to check

When I bought my pulsar I was given options for both tyres
Having used mrf for about 4 years I can vouch for it

Yes the accessories were basic like sidestand etc ...
Actually I was biased towards aviator but the seat height was higher than activa...
It could be a problem for the women in our family
So had to book activa

Honda's combi brake is very good so I'll compromise on tvs tubeless if mrf is not available
Can anyone who has recently bought one verify the same ...?

**s1d** · 12-02-2014, 02:53 AM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Originally posted by V!RU$ View Post

It's the problems with tvs tires that are making me think otherwise
Just head over to Pulsar 200ns thread and see the phrases like 'euroslips'...

My friend got a warped tyre from showroom on his Pulsar150

I don't know if they are giving mrf also
Maybe the showroom wanted sometime to check

When I bought my pulsar I was given options for both tyres
Having used mrf for about 4 years I can vouch for it

Yes the accessories were basic like sidestand etc ...
Actually I was biased towards aviator but the seat height was higher than activa...
It could be a problem for the women in our family
So had to book activa

Honda's combi brake is very good so I'll compromise on tvs tubeless if mrf is not available
Can anyone who has recently bought one verify the same ...?

We always complain man. .that's just our nature.. euroslips or metzelers. folks with the duke 390s are complaining the metz are too expensive and want an alternative. We always want something else. The mrf's on my d200 are not that great in the wet, in fact the zappers and the current ceat on my dio feels more planted when i brake in the wet.
remember tires will need a few 100 km to reach their optimal grip and also need to warm up to provide optimal grip. In my experience, on dry tarmac most tires are good.. and remember one important thing - always maintain the recommended tire pressure (maybe up it by 2 psi max not more).
I read somewhere that in India, it is TVS that manufactures two wheeler tires for Michelin.

**V!RU$** · 12-06-2014, 07:02 PM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Hey guys got my white activa yesterday

This is after a coat of wax this morning

**krishna77** · 12-06-2014, 07:53 PM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Congrats. Ride safe!

**SparKot** · 12-06-2014, 08:25 PM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Originally posted by V!RU$ View Post

Hey guys got my white activa yesterday

This is after a coat of wax this morning

Tyre treads resemble that of MRF Zapper, are they from TVS?

cheers & have fun...

**V!RU$** · 12-07-2014, 01:14 PM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

Tyre treads resemble that of MRF Zapper, are they from TVS?

cheers & have fun...

Yes they are mrf tubeless.

**savithk** · 12-07-2014, 03:33 PM

Honda Activa engine oil level goes down

i am not a technical person . I have a 2004 model Honda Activa. I had done 38000+ kms till now. iam doing regular maintenance services every after 3 / 4 months.

the problem is....The engine oil level goes down within a 1/2 week of topping up. It seems the engine is burning up engine oil.

my recent visit to Honda services , they said my activa needs engine work where whole engine would be opened & that would cost 12 to 15k! upon asking
they said, the "valves" of engine has eroded

what is the real problem ...some one explain...why this happen ???

**s1d** · 12-07-2014, 04:03 PM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Originally posted by V!RU$ View Post

Yes they are mrf tubeless.

nice.. can you post a pic of the tire where it says 'TL' or 'Tubeless' ?
Maybe I should get one of these for the Dio.. but unsure whether the stock rim will hold up the tubeless tire/valve. and i dont think the new model rims will fit the old model dio/activa's.. they use a different size nut which i understand cannot be removed using the tools given in the tool kit.. i saw this on my friends 110 activa a couple of years ago.. i found that really weird, because removing the wheel ourselves in case of a puncture is one of the easier things/advantage a scoot. Can you confirm if its possible to remove the rim using the tools in the tool kit ? Just take out the spanner(s) and see if it fits over the outer nuts on the rim.

**Lokesh027** · 12-07-2014, 11:10 PM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Originally posted by V!RU$ View Post

Yes they are mrf tubeless.

I guess that is TUBELESS mark.
My activa's rear tyre needs to be changed after some 4-5 thousand kms at the max.
I am still using TUFFUP tube on my 9+ years old activa. I don't want my sister to get stuck on the midway.
Though Its cost is too high.

A strange incident happened few months back. While riding suddenly I felt wobbling from the rear wheel. On close inspection I found the rim was cracked and the tyre side wall was pushing that crack outwards. Tube was clearly visible from that 2-3mm crack. The rim was rusted from inside and resulted into that crack. I bought a cheap rim from nearby auto spare parts shop. It costed me Rs.150 and got it replaced then.
So, anyhow I will change the rim if I go for tubeless. Another concern is the bolt size. Still I can think of changing brake drum.

Please post some more pics, so that we can figure this out well.

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Its now 51k+ on odo. Valve clearance adjustment is required very frequently 1000-1500 kms, otherwise valves get tight(no clearance). This is very irritating especially during morning cold starts.
But now the valve adjustment limit is very much near. Not more than 3-4 adjustments can be made from now. On the condition of engine, it needs oil top up after every 700-1000 kms. The oil comes out black on draining after 2000kms.( Used Castrol Scooter 20w40 before and now Shell AX5 20w40 since last 2 oil change.) A slight white smoke is visible at high rpm on throwing torch light.
So,Is this the time for engine rebuild? [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION] What do think on the valve issue?

**s1d** · 12-07-2014, 11:43 PM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Originally posted by Lokesh027 View Post

I guess that is TUBELESS mark.
Indeed it is! I did look closer.. but not close enough i guess.

My activa's rear tyre needs to be changed after some 4-5 thousand kms at the max.
I am still using TUFFUP tube on my 9+ years old activa. I don't want my sister to get stuck on the midway.
Though Its cost is too high.
Yes, expensive.. the cost of the tuff up tube was around 450rs earlier this year. They provide a peace of mind, but only if you keep an eye on the tires at least once a week.. otherwise if the puncture is big you will be left stranded anyway. Personally, i experimented when i noticed a small nail in the tire.. i was able to ride for a week without any issues and i finally decided to get it fixed. The puncture wala refused to believe it was a puncture and i had to convince him and show him the nail before he started working on it.
And the zapper tire alone is another 1300rs i think. So total cost comes to around 1700 approx. Not sure how much a tubeless costs though.
The ceats are cheaper, i think it cost me 850rs for the ceat.. and i do not see any issue with them and they do seem to last longer. I currently use ceats at both the front and rear with tuff up tubes. Had one puncture at the rear and it held up well until i got it fixed.

A strange incident happened few months back. While riding suddenly I felt wobbling from the rear wheel. On close inspection I found the rim was cracked and the tyre side wall was pushing that crack outwards. Tube was clearly visible from that 2-3mm crack. The rim was rusted from inside and resulted into that crack. I bought a cheap rim from nearby auto spare parts shop. It costed me Rs.150 and got it replaced then.
So, anyhow I will change the rim if I go for tubeless. Another concern is the bolt size. Still I can think of changing brake drum.

My 8yr old dio has just very very little surface rust on the inside of the rim.. no issues so far and looks good to last an enternity. Coastal cities might accelerate the rust formation.

Please post some more pics, so that we can figure this out well.
Someone with the new activa's post the pics... Or i will tomorrow.. my office has two new model activas. But rim and drum compatibility will need to be checked either at the svc or someone who has done such a conversion.

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Its now 51k+ on odo. Valve clearance adjustment is required very frequently 1000-1500 kms, otherwise valves get tight(no clearance). This is very irritating especially during morning cold starts.
But now the valve adjustment limit is very much near. Not more than 3-4 adjustments can be made from now. On the condition of engine, it needs oil top up after every 700-1000 kms. The oil comes out black on draining after 2000kms.( Used Castrol Scooter 20w40 before and now Shell AX5 20w40 since last 2 oil change.) A slight white smoke is visible at high rpm on throwing torch light.
So,Is this the time for engine rebuild? @s1d What do think on the valve issue?
If smoke is only at high rpm and less.. Get the head removed and get a new valve kit and replace them. Do not touch the bore or any other parts of the engine. The oem valve kit is around 500rs i think. Get the head cleaned which i think they do it anyway with a valve kit replacement job.
Most mechs will say it requires new bore kit also. But do go for that if only the valve kit replacement doesn't fix your issue. A proper valve kit replacement job should suffice in your case..but if the work is done shoddily then issues will persist. Once that is done, you can get a compression test done with either a compression tester or by using the kick (if you are able to judge the compression using the kick)
also poor acceleration is caused mostly due to worn out parts of the clutch/variator.. am sure you about this, it has been discussed and links to some information have been posted on this thread.

My comments above in bold

**V!RU$** · 12-08-2014, 11:05 AM

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Lokesh027

Here are some more pics of the tyres
Notice the rim also mentions tubeless type

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Originally posted by Lokesh027 View Post

Its now 51k+ on odo. Valve clearance adjustment is required very frequently 1000-1500 kms, otherwise valves get tight(no clearance). This is very irritating especially during morning cold starts.
But now the valve adjustment limit is very much near. Not more than 3-4 adjustments can be made from now. On the condition of engine, it needs oil top up after every 700-1000 kms. The oil comes out black on draining after 2000kms.( Used Castrol Scooter 20w40 before and now Shell AX5 20w40 since last 2 oil change.) A slight white smoke is visible at high rpm on throwing torch light.
So,Is this the time for engine rebuild? [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION] What do think on the valve issue?

I say you do a proper engine oil flush either the diesel mix method or adding engine oil flush.
Are you sure your valves are not sticking ...
A sticky valve will create cold start problems due to less compression,hence poor acceleration.
White smoke could come from both faulty valve oil seals and piston rings.
Also valve adjustment at every 1000kms indicates a problem.
Do engine top end decarbonization with valve lapping.
If the exhaust tip is coated with wet black soot then probably you'll have to change the bore kit.

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