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Is that an Off-road tyre bro?

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Everyone, like me, seem to be happy about the fact that probably spares issues might be solved.
But hasn't the issue with spares been going on from long before the 250r production was stopped?
Just a little concern of mine.

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Earlier, the asking price of CBR was way too higher than by market standards.
But now, this being an old design and competition being aggressive, they might drop their cost a bit and exclude premium tires, CBS and other stuff. Might come around Domi's range or around. If they can succeed in pricing it correctly and if they can some gain some decent volumes, i don't see any reason why spares would be an issue. Earlier, it hardly sold, so the spares were difficult to procure.
If they fail this time with pricing and other factors, the spares issue would continue in near future too.

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how much did this tire cost?
what is the tire pressure you are running on this ? i think 29~32 psi would be ok..

do keep us posted on how it runs after a few 100 km. i am tired on the michelin pilot street radial on the rear on my d200, 17k km and it still doesn't want to wear out . been looking out for a tire with such a tread pattern in the 140/70 size( i feel 150 is too big for the ktm's)

Bro, Honda is honda !
your expectations of it being priced in the 1.5 range or lower than it (from your post on another thread) are too much .
Am pretty sure it will continue at the price it was last being sold.

At-least, glad they did not do something shitty with the cbr like hero did to their zma/zmr. the cbr250r is a fine motorcycle in itself and am happy that it continues in its same avatar.

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Those were my guesses. I have cleared mentioned.

It was a dud when there was no competition. With competition in place, if Honda expects it to succeed, all the best to them.
200 cc bikes from competition are selling for 90k with discounts. Honda 250 for 1.95L. I don’t think it will find any buyers.

Yamaha is more premium than Honda through out the world. What’s asking price of Yamaha??
Agreed that Yamaha has no abs.

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yep bro, your guesses.. but honda is honda
honda did not reduce the prices while the cbr250 was still around earlier along with the later entrants in the 200cc category.. i doubt they'd do it now. you think they care if it sells or not ! they are happy with their commuter/scooter sales.

i wouldn't agree on the yamaha vs honda premium.. both honda and yamaha have a lot of bikes in the 'performance' segment across the world, but do not launch them here.. at-least yamaha has opened up with the fz25.
fz25 vs cbr.. the cbr has more equipment (abs, faired, liquid cooled, trellis frame) and again honda has its own mind on pricing.

now look at the price of the r15 v3 vs fz25. priced very close to each other, even though the r15 was struggling with sales whereas the fz25 seems to have fared better in terms of sales so far.
these bikes might be dud's in terms of sales, but as a motorcycle they are good.

honda is least bothered man about selling anything larger than 160cc (at-least so far). the cbr will sit in the corner for those few who want one.
that's my guess.

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The ralco costs 2850. Fitting extra. It's a offroad tyre, yes. Rated at 150 kmph, 300 kg. Pressure is currently 38 psi, a bit higher than the usual 35 I run. This is not a tyre for smooth rolling, it's for grip on bad, sandy, or slushy roads. 3 years warranty. Keychain + lemon soda free.

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cbr is doing awesome. closing 57k on odo and she runs like she is brand new....

recently changed the front and back rotor, fork springs , bearings and fork oil , shims and she is gliding like a new machine. butter....

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Honda has disappointed again. spares wasn't an issue before as well.
no idea of pricing however Honda has lost the edge many options available now.

as for LED setup get a Cyclops LED bulb and you are set for next 10 years.

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The issue of honda not bringing larger capacity bikes in this country is simply the consumer mindset here is too infantile. Here there are users in the group haggling over price issues on vital parts like brake pads engine oil etc, it is inane to even consider that honda as a corporation looking to maintain margins to take such a decision.

Yamaha suffered from losses with the RD 350, Suzuki suffered from the Bandit and the Inazuma, only Kawasaki seemed to flourished.

Simple fact is that indians are stingy and the companies have reacted as such and it is proper.

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[MENTION=54284]Manan[/MENTION] - personally, I feel it's better to be stingy and buy an activa on cash rather than a sbk on loan, only to realise later that, after all, it's a bike, it's got expenses, it doesn't generate any income; so when some unexpected expenses crop up, they simply sell the bike at a huge loss.

Financial knowledge and management is what is lacking in India's middle class families today. The hilarious part is when people say 'It's my my money, MINE, I can do what I want with it' and then make the same mistakes over and over again.

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True in those cases, and because of such the companies are not interested in getting new products, when the market simply does not exist.

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You exactly said my point.
R15 and FZ25 are stacked closely and people prefer FZ25 because of bigger engine than R15. So, R15 will struggle to sell. The same will be the case, if they retain the old pricing. 400 CC bikes are selling for 1.5L and Honda wants 2 for 250CC bike. Not going to sell.

The case of R15 is completely different. they cannot discontinue it because, its the model that bought them to the game. So they retain it.

Launching a model is expensive. It comprises of heavy investment. Advertising, manufacturing, etc. Spares management is another issue which costs a bomb too. if they have no intent to sell to make profit, they better not launch it, because it will cause losses to the company.
Any company launching models intentionally to generate losses? they go down as a failed company in that segment. i dont think anyone wants their name associated that way.

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Hi guys,

I've been following this thread for quite sometime. Quite helpful I must say. I've a CBR which is about to hit 80k kms. Have done K2K, Ladakh and numerous shorter tours. It has kept me amazingly happy. Apart from the routine perishable part replacements... hasn't given me a lot of problems.

I'm currently in Chennai

I had a fall and most of the damage was taken by the left clip-on, but since then the bike's balance and front suspension have been funny(heavier when turning left than right). Few weeks ago, a local technician diagnosed and fixed a minor bend in Triple Tree that fixed the balancing to some extent.

But, now... the front forks make a "thud" noise under sudden changes (hard braking, steep speedbumps) ... similar to what my rear spring did in Ladakh (had to be replaced).

So, needed some advice as to what exactly might be the problem... the springs/oil/the enclosing hardware. Moreover, I was thinking of putting in a heavier grade forkoil (Motul 20W mostly)... read somewhere in this thread that it helps with the squishy front. Any thoughts on the matter will be appreciated.

TIA!

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After the fall the entire cone set might have gotten damaged along with the front suspension. Personally I would have the entire front end opened up and checked. I would recommend against deviating from the standard patterns, I had uploaded the service manual for the same, please refer to it for the standard stock specifications.

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Thanks [MENTION=54284]Manan[/MENTION] for the reply. I'll ask the SVC to take a look again.

About the front suspension oil... I found this thread https://www.bcmtouring.com/forums/th....32743/page-93 which quoted to use the 20W Motul at 350 ml mark. The default I guess is 15W 331 ml (according to the manual, thanks for uploading!)

I was wondering if someone had done the same here and what were the results...