Re: Honda CBR 250R

Thanks for confirmation, that's good to know planning for doing the same, it will make the bike little bit new .

Re: Honda CBR 250R

From what I read on the FB post, the owner didn't do a proper PDI while taking delivery. He didn't check the coolent level. And oil mixing with coolent is easily identified by looking the oil level window.

The owner just took the word of delivery mech that it's a BS4 bike,so it is over heating when asked.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

How many owners know how to do PDI?
How many will have doubts over Honda PDI?
Clearly there has been a slip from Honda Showroom guys. Not everyone is an XBHPian and even so, less paranoid about everything in order.

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Honda or Bonda.. pdi is mostly 'formality' when left to the showroom guys.
But the head gasket failure might have happened after he took delivery (i haven't read the owners post on fb, pl share a link to it), shit happens it's just a machine.. and poor guy probably wasn't aware of these things and as-usual most the of svc guys brush it off negligently.

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so the bs4 cbr doesn't use something like a h4 led bulb ? Is it like an smd or something like the duke where you might have to replace the entire unit if the led fails ?
i thought it was a led bulb that was replaceable

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No buddy its not a single bulb but a cluster of leds more like the new 390 headlight. Not sure but going by the price i think its a whole unit replacement "if" the leds fail.

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It was just needed to be tight. Mechanic did it in just 5 minutes and it feels good now.

Any thoughts? Anyone?

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A proper PDI is done by the ASC to ensure that no physical External damage is there and has nothing to do with internals of the Engine...so Like you opined it is just a formality done by the ASC...and the fact is the customer had done 1,500 Kms before engine failure..surely if the oil or coolant levels were low failure would have taken place much earlier...
Here is the link..

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Thanks for the link ji
Very unlikely that the oil and coolant level would have been low at the time of delivery. no way now to prove that now
and these days some people complaining about overheating without understanding what is overheating (e.g. misinformed ktm folks calling the normal heat as 'overheating') and that combined with negligent svc in case of real overheating is a recipe for disaster.
from the pictures i only see the normal cross hatch on the bore and no scoring on the pistons.

i think the failure might have occurred after delivery, and even assuming that the gasket had given up before delivery (there is no proof of it) i think the bike would have been able to do a few 100km without a seizure.

all said and done.. irrespective of whether it was a lemon from day 1 or happened later, Honda is bound by law to fix it up under warranty. these service centers as usual try not to honor warranty with their bs stories. hopefully the owner has written to honda directly on their email and not just vented his frustration on social media. folks these days depend too much on social media
I've had good results on writing directly to Honda (and recently ktm) to address warranty or spares issues in the past.
Hopefully they get his bike fixed up under warranty.

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around 80 - 90k max

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Is it plug and play or is there some modifications needed?

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Not a problem. As long as it's run post the haul period, there's nothing to worry.

CBR spares will be available for the foreseeable future. The reason people don't stack the spares for the Ceeber is it's a "unique product" with "unique pricing" (pun intended) just so you get the gist of what I am trying to explain here. It's just that the reception that it gets from the public doesn't make it a "commercial superstar" for which parts are available readily. The CBR lot are an esteemed bunch, so you parts have to be specially brought. Was that sarcastic! Kiddin though, but unfortunately that's the reality

Indeed. It was the RS 200 that I was inferring to. They have longer steel braided lines which allows you to play with the length w.r.t to the CBR 250R

Cheers!
VJ

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There is high possibility that coolant level was more than required. 1500 k means first service should have been completed. Looks like fault from service center rather than engine.

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There is high possibility that coolant level was more than required. 1500 km means first service should have been completed. Looks like fault from service center rather than engine.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

His post clearly mentions that the bike had over heating issue right from the day he bought. If everything was good why would a new bikes engine over heat.

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I think the same way. The coolant might have disappeared, either leaked off, or mixed with engine oil due to faulty gasket. The loss of coolant caused overheating and destruction of engine.

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Just checked his FB link that sums up. Looks to be manufacturing issue. Now a days with more fluids in the bikes we need to monitor coolant levels now and then. I feel sorry for that guy. But here are the question he might get from dealer or Honda and I don't see any relevant info in his fb post for the below questions

1) How did it work for 1500 KM with coolant leakage if the issue is there from day 1?
2) Was he topping up the coolant now and then in that case he should know how to check the coolant level and should have brought to the notice of dealer or Honda and stopped using the bike.
3) What about first service? any bills and statement of work done? While draining the engine oil did they find something unusual I know they will not allow you to servicing bay but this will be valid question for them because it is their responsibility to check that during break in period.
4) Speeds he was driving during run in period. Recently read about a TVS apache where engine got seized while racing during run in period.

Please don't get me wrong I am just trying to help that guy in case he follows this forum as he will need to have all this info presented to Honda in order to convince them that he has a legitimate warranty claim. I know it is emotional factor for him but for Honda or dealer it is pure business.

Hope he gets his issues addressed.

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Hey guys,

Was having a healthy discussion with a few friends about the C-ABS system on the 2011-2017 CBR250R, had a few queries-

1. Is it a dual channel or single channel ABS. AFAIK, dual channel ABS handles each wheel independently (correct me if I'm wrong), but some are saying it's a single channel ABS combined with CBS. I did read about C-ABS in the previous pages, but it confused me more.

2. Does the ABS prevent rear wheel lock ups on the CBR? I know this might seem like a stupid question, but opinions are differing. Owner experiences are welcome.

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