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  • Re: Need Help !!

    Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post
    good that its resolved and good you took it to SVC and rectified it and told us this is a good example you have set. BTW whats the idle RMP? keep it between 1.4 to 1.3k rpm. also dont set half clutch (only a suggestion. if it not then ignore)
    My idle RPM is around 1.4k. Reaches around 1.5k in cold conditions and then settles down in between 1.3k-1.4k RPM.

    Didn't get the part about setting half clutch. Did you mean riding with half clutch? What i wanted to say is that, the bike kept stalling mainly when i had to press the clutch for down-shifting (to 1st or 2nd). Say, during the time i had to go over a speed-bump. So at that time, the RPM naturally comes down to the idling RPM.

    One more thing, i'm still getting the smell as if something is burning. How long is this going to stay?

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    • PROJECTORS WITH HID and ANGEL EYES FOR MY LE WHITE!

      Hi guys,

      I'm interested in installing Projectors with HID and Angel Eyes. My bike is white LE.

      Please suggest where to get and if any specific brand is the best and most long lasting/reliable.

      Also, my friend suggested i have to get a bigger battery for my bike and this will solve all the problems associated with the battery discharging issues with projectors/HIDs.

      I want it to look like this:

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      • Re: PROJECTORS WITH HID and ANGEL EYES FOR MY LE WHITE!

        Originally posted by neodecoder View Post
        Hi guys,

        I'm interested in installing Projectors with HID and Angel Eyes. My bike is white LE.

        Please suggest where to get and if any specific brand is the best and most long lasting/reliable.

        Also, my friend suggested i have to get a bigger battery for my bike and this will solve all the problems associated with the battery discharging issues with projectors/HIDs.

        I want it to look like this:

        [ATTACH=CONFIG]111128[/ATTACH]
        Try sourcing projectors from your locality while using 4300k hids they shouldnt be available easily but you can order them online
        Wiring if done properly will not pose you any problems
        Myself using projectors on stock battery since 1yr no problem till now
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        • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

          If you face discharging you can use a 5ah battery fits directly in the battery box just rip out the base foam from the battery box

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          • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

            Originally posted by anishbora View Post
            My idle RPM is around 1.4k. Reaches around 1.5k in cold conditions and then settles down in between 1.3k-1.4k RPM.

            Didn't get the part about setting half clutch. Did you mean riding with half clutch? What i wanted to say is that, the bike kept stalling mainly when i had to press the clutch for down-shifting (to 1st or 2nd). Say, during the time i had to go over a speed-bump. So at that time, the RPM naturally comes down to the idling RPM.

            One more thing, i'm still getting the smell as if something is burning. How long is this going to stay?
            half clutch is when u set the clutch's free play more then its required to reduce the strain to pull the clutch lever fully. the SVC guys will tel you what it is. its similar to riding half clutch. but that was just a suggestion.

            yes the burning smell will be there for few more hundred kms.
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            • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

              had my R15's first servicing today morning. it had 890 kms on the odo at the time.

              1 - the harshness of the low gears (1, 2, 3) around 4-5k RPM (and beyond, of course) is still there..the sound becomes loud and harsh and the whole bike starts feeling buzzing-type of vibration, and while a buzz type vibration is not so uncomfortable, it's still too much to be acceptable at just mid-RPM levels.. after having a check up ride, i went back and told this to the guy who serviced my bike and all he has to say is that the harshness is an indication that i should change the gears (as if i dont already know that). after telling him that nevertheless this should not probably be happening at just 4-5k RPM when the red line is way up at 10500, he says that's just there and there's nothing to worry, the harshness is not indicative of any problem. my question to you guys is is this normal ? i thought the harshness around 5000 RPM at low gears was supposed to go away after the 1st service. i think i was also told the same by some members here when on the first day of my bike i reported the harshness at 4000-5000 RPM in low gears..in 4th gear it's much smoother and comfortable sounding/feeling, and at 5th, 6th gear it is all fine, as it was anyway before the service..

              2 - again, the gearing in the low gears (1,2), particularly down shifting, isn't all that smoother after the service. is this also normal ? i told the guy this too and his reply was that it's all normal. the gearing in the gears 3-6 is smooth and nimble, but at 1 and 2, there's this significant 'khat' sound anytime i shift up or down, particularly while downing. this was there before the service too and is still there.

              3 - he used the yamalube semi synthetic of grade 15w50..i told him the manual strictly says 20w50, not 15w50, he replied by saying that the 15w50 is the one that is standardly used in R15 (and indicated me to one fiery red R15's pic in the oil bottle implying this was indeed the one to use for R15, at which point i was like lol in my mind)..he anyway used it and not that i can do anything about it now, but again, is this 15w50 also what your R15s were filled with at the first service ? common sense tells me the viscosity of the oil isn't something to experiment with in one's own non-experimental bike, so i am disturbed about the fact that a 15w instead of 20w was poured in my bike. unless you people say that's what is done by all yamaha SVCs on the R15s, in which case i guess i can trust it without hesitation.

              4 - the dude also said the tyre pressures to keep are 30psi (front) and 35psi (rear). after telling him the manual says 28 and 33 respectively, he again said let the manual say whatever. what the ??

              5 (a significantly less important point than the above) - they used an active wheel detergent to wash the fairing. after asking whether that was wise, of course the guy replied yes it was fine and nothing shall happen to the paint or the gloss by using a detergent. i guess one time use every 2-3000kms won't be so problematic, but isn't it not recommended to use detergents to wash the fairings etc ?

              almost all the reviews, and also posts in this thread, say there's a whole new feel beyond 6000 RPM after the 1st service, but the point 1 above ensures the contrary at 1,2,3 gears.. 4th, 5th, 6th gears at high RPMs are significantly more awesome than they were before the service, but the low gears at post-4000 RPM are just upsetting

              i understand that maybe i should give it more time since it's been ridden just about 30 kms after the service was done, but then, 30kms isn't that less either.
              Last edited by aditya_YZF-R15; 08-05-2013, 04:51 PM.

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              • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post
                half clutch is when u set the clutch's free play more then its required to reduce the strain to pull the clutch lever fully. the SVC guys will tel you what it is. its similar to riding half clutch. but that was just a suggestion.

                yes the burning smell will be there for few more hundred kms.
                Thanks for explaining Ron. No, i have not changed the free-play setting. Moreover, who needs to tinker with a well balanced clutch?

                My palms still smell of the rubber grips.

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                • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                  one guy in facebook (who is one of the founders of a certain website on motorcycles), and another member here have suggested tappet adjustment issue as the probable culprit for the harshness at mid and high RPMs when in low gears..

                  well, i will pester the svc guys to death tomorrow until they listen to me and check the tappet. and then if something does turn up to be the culprit, i am going to give them a polite sarcastic earful on their ****ing negligence towards my complain/question today when i asked and insisted (and even argued that it sure as hell does not seem like something that is normal in mid revs in low gear) them twice or thrice to look over it...

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                  • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                    Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
                    had my R15's first servicing today morning. it had 890 kms on the odo at the time.

                    1 - the harshness of the low gears (1, 2, 3) around 4-5k RPM (and beyond, of course) is still there..the sound becomes loud and harsh and the whole bike starts feeling buzzing-type of vibration, and while a buzz type vibration is not so uncomfortable, it's still too much to be acceptable at just mid-RPM levels.. after having a check up ride, i went back and told this to the guy who serviced my bike and all he has to say is that the harshness is an indication that i should change the gears (as if i dont already know that). after telling him that nevertheless this should not probably be happening at just 4-5k RPM when the red line is way up at 10500, he says that's just there and there's nothing to worry, the harshness is not indicative of any problem. my question to you guys is is this normal ? i thought the harshness around 5000 RPM at low gears was supposed to go away after the 1st service. i think i was also told the same by some members here when on the first day of my bike i reported the harshness at 4000-5000 RPM in low gears..in 4th gear it's much smoother and comfortable sounding/feeling, and at 5th, 6th gear it is all fine, as it was anyway before the service.

                    i would recommend that you stop worrying about minor things. the bike is new. you are new to the bike. it takes some time to get know each other. in due course of time you will be doing it together like a pro. ;-P

                    btw i hope you (atleast) occasionally rev it over 7k, gradually taking it upto the redline as you clock in the miles. its important to do this. do it in the lower gears.


                    2 - again, the gearing in the low gears (1,2), particularly down shifting, isn't all that smoother after the service. is this also normal ? i told the guy this too and his reply was that it's all normal. the gearing in the gears 3-6 is smooth and nimble, but at 1 and 2, there's this significant 'khat' sound anytime i shift up or down, particularly while downing. this was there before the service too and is still there.

                    same as above. tip: be firm and decisive when you change gears.

                    3 - he used the yamalube semi synthetic of grade 15w50..i told him the manual strictly says 20w50, not 15w50, he replied by saying that the 15w50 is the one that is standardly used in R15 (and indicated me to one fiery red R15's pic in the oil bottle implying this was indeed the one to use for R15, at which point i was like lol in my mind)..he anyway used it and not that i can do anything about it now, but again, is this 15w50 also what your R15s were filled with at the first service ? common sense tells me the viscosity of the oil isn't something to experiment with in one's own non-experimental bike, so i am disturbed about the fact that a 15w instead of 20w was poured in my bike. unless you people say that's what is done by all yamaha SVCs on the R15s, in which case i guess i can trust it without hesitation.

                    yes the yamalube for R15 is 15w50. tip: half knowledge is often worse than ignorance.

                    4 - the dude also said the tyre pressures to keep are 30psi (front) and 35psi (rear). after telling him the manual says 28 and 33 respectively, he again said let the manual say whatever. what the ??

                    higher tire pressure will likely prolong tire life but since there is no such thing as a free lunch you will lose tire grip.
                    30/35 is ok.
                    ^ answers in bold
                    Last edited by incipient; 08-05-2013, 08:27 PM.

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                    • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                      ^ dude just calm down. Being done just 8xx km,engine is not yet settled and its the first time you are taking it to higher rpm's. So its normal. Tappet adjustment at 8xx km??? Thats foolish. In traffic,if bike gets heated up (obvi being new bike ) you'll feel the harshness. Dont baby sit her and take her to higher rpm's slowly and give it some time to settle. Everything will be alright soon. Still if you are not satisfied try changing to motul 5100.

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                      • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                        Originally posted by incipient View Post
                        i would recommend that you stop worrying about minor things. the bike is new. you are new to the bike. it takes some time to get know each other. in due course of time you will be doing it together like the pro. ;-P

                        btw i hope you (atleast) occasionally rev it over 7k, gradually taking it upto the redline as you clock in the miles. its important to do this. do it in the lower gears.
                        yes i take it over 7k when in 5th or 6th gear, sometimes also in 4th, whenever i can (meaning whenever i can afford such a high speed), which is very frequently. but in low gears (1,2,3), starting from around 4000 RPM, it sounds and feels too harsh as i said..although i did take it to 8-9k in low gears a few times today after the service to check up on things, it feels and sounds too harsh to continue doing so..so i backed off being scared of damaging the engine which sounds like it's highly stressed..that's why i am thinking this is some problem.

                        i also change gears very nicely and swiftly in general, but the more than usual khat sound while downshifting from 3 to 2 to 1 is always there..the 'khat' sound was less pronounced when the bike was very new..but it's become more pronounced in the last 200 kms or so..i thought servicing would resolve it.

                        Originally posted by incipient View Post
                        yes the yamalube for R15 is 15w50. tip: half knowledge is often worse than ignorance.
                        i worried about this point as the manual said it's strictly supposed to be 20w50 or 20w40. yes, i agree, half knowledge is worse than ignorance in many kind of situations.: )

                        thanks for the reply.

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                        Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
                        ^ dude just calm down. Being done just 8xx km,engine is not yet settled and its the first time you are taking it to higher rpm's. So its normal. Tappet adjustment at 8xx km??? Thats foolish. In traffic,if bike gets heated up (obvi being new bike ) you'll feel the harshness. Dont baby sit her and take her to higher rpm's slowly and give it some time to settle. Everything will be alright soon. Still if you are not satisfied try changing to motul 5100.

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                        the massive harshness, reminding me of something that sounds like it's getting worked on by a drilling machine or something , from mid RPMs and beyond is only when it's in 1, 2, 3 gears..from 4th onwards, it's all fine..infact been doing 6000-7500 RPM frequently ever since i almost crossed the 500km on the odo as the manual tells you to do it and there's no problem there..over 9k today in 4th and 5th gear (couldnt get a chance to do that in 6th) was also fine.

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                        • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                          Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
                          > yes i take it over 7k when in 5th or 6th gear, sometimes also in 4th
                          yes the engine will sound loud/harsh the lower the gear you in. that's ok.

                          >i worried about this point as the manual said it's strictly supposed to be 20w50 or 20w40.
                          yup, on this particular point the manual recommendation is indeed confusing.
                          ^ answers in bold.

                          getting the valves checked at the first service is probably a good idea. these bikes are very well engineered but you never know you could be that one in thousand having improper valve clearance. (not saying that you the noise you describe is because of it)

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                          • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                            ^ thats because you are geting scared of the sound and about your bike!!! Just close the helmet visor and rev it above 6k in first 3 gears( I mean slowly ) dont worry of anything and it will be alright

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                            • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                              Originally posted by incipient View Post
                              ^ answers in bold.

                              getting the valves checked at the first service is probably a good idea. these bikes are very well engineered but you never know you could be that one in thousand having improper valve clearance. (not saying that you the noise you describe is because of it)

                              yeah i maybe that one in a thousand error piece

                              the svc mechanic also ignored and diverted my question when i asked him if he had checked the valves, piston rings and many more things that the manual lists as things to check upon while servicing..i was standing right there almost all the time and i didnt see him doing anything more than basic stuff like chain lubing and oil and oil filter changing and the like..the kind of stuff that even i will be proficient in doing after a while by just reading the internet...but i didnt insist him much on this point, god knows why.
                              thanks for the suggestion.

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                              Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
                              ^ thats because you are geting scared of the sound and about your bike!!! Just close the helmet visor and rev it above 6k in first 3 gears( I mean slowly ) dont worry of anything and it will be alright

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                              but am still scared lol :|

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                              • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                                Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
                                yeah i maybe that one in a thousand error piece

                                the svc mechanic also ignored and diverted my question when i asked him if he had checked the valves, piston rings and many more things that the manual lists as things to check upon while servicing..i was standing right there almost all the time and i didnt see him doing anything more than basic stuff like chain lubing and oil and oil filter changing and the like..the kind of stuff that even i will be proficient in doing after a while by just reading the internet...but i didnt insist him much on this point, god knows why.
                                thanks for the suggestion.

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                                but am still scared lol :|
                                :thumbup:
                                It could happen you never know better be inquisitve about checking( even just for the peace of mind) than be sorry later

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