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dude the back tyre should hav 30-32psi not 36 and keep the front at 27-28psi....not really sure if the chain slack would cause this unless its too tight....but its not harder than fz to push,i think its roughly the same...had a fz for 3yrs be4 the duke...Originally posted by hunkofgals View Postmy tire pressure is 26 in front and 36 in the rear
and does chain slack results in making the bike harder to push ?
sorry for noob questions
im new to gear bikes
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Comforting!!Originally posted by shreeda View PostTo all those who are concerned about Cramster Colt as a saddlebag for Duke. I did a little bit of touring with the setup and found it quite comfy. It fits perfectly and there's no problem riding with it.
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Originally posted by AnupamOnWheels View PostAs the Coolant which is in your bike is of Motul Motocool Brand(factory default), so you need to use that only, unless you want to drain that and use some other brand. You need not go to the SVC and can refill it in your home. Just Buy the coolant from local shop, open the coolant cap(only when the Engine is totally cool), pour just a little coolant and check the level, repeat this step until the level is between MIN and MAX - and you're ready to race.Originally posted by Shubz View PostBro - I guess you are a bit mistaken here.
The factory default is Castrol Radicool. And I don't think we can directly add the concentrated coolant into the tank. It must be diluted in the ratio 2:1 (water to coolant) and then poured into the tank. Unless you are using a ready-mix which is already diluted.
(I could be wrong and would love to be corrected)thanks for replying, i will have to refill it at home, now the dilution is a big dilemma for me. I have bought a volvoline collant for temporary use, now the bottle says to dilute it to 1:1/:1:4/1:7 according to the service manual, and i am not able to find anything like this in the manual.Originally posted by AnupamOnWheels View PostNope Bro, you are not at all wrong
Actually according to the Service Manual the recommended coolant is Castrol Radicool. But during the Owners meet they told us that the bike came with Motul coolant and advised us to use the Motul Motocool Expert(Not sure whether they told that to promote Motul as there was a Motul Guy demonstrating products but it's definitely a premixed one, so no need to dilute).
Now here's my story - I recently topped up my engine coolant from the ASC itself, and this is what they have done. They just took a bottle of Motul Motocool Expert, opened the cap and added a little to topup. Now it's also possible that they took the Castrol one, diluted it and kept it in a Motul Bottle (Anything is possible under the sun and inside the ASC
)Also, I am not 100% sure whether the bike initially had Motul or Castrol. I can just tell that the Motul one is of the same green color that we had initially in our bikes, but I am not sure which color is Castrol(I guess it's also green). Also when I enquired them regarding topup of the coolant before visiting ASC itself, they strongly asked me to visit ASC and get this done. However, when I told that I am out of town with my Bike and would not risk driving back to the ASC with the coolant level so low, they advised me to buy Motul Coolant and topup with it. They also told that in case of emergency if we can't get hold of any Coolant, we can use distilled water to top it up as a workaround. The only word of caution from them is never mix different brands and types of coolant. Guess it clears everyting. 
First of all can anyone tell me do I need to dilute it ? if yes, whats the ratio ?
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Please go through my earlier comment. It is not recommended to mix different Types/Brands of Coolant. Coolant is same like Engine Oil. You can use anything with the recommended or better grade but you can't mix them. You never know mixing different brands of Coolant will behave in which manner. Though I am not sure whether the factory default is Castrol or Motul, it is surely not Valvoline. So, better use the Motul one as this is premixed, so you won't need to dilute it. If you want to use any concentrated coolant like Castrol, as far as I can remember, you need to dilute it in 1:2 ratio(1 part of Coolant to 2 part of distilled/deionized water). What I can assure you is that I have been told by the KTM representatives during the Owner's meet that we can use the Motul Motocool Expert Coolant. So I regard this as safe to use. Still do contact the SVC and confirm.Originally posted by psycho28 View Postthanks for replying, i will have to refill it at home, now the dilution is a big dilemma for me. I have bought a volvoline collant for temporary use, now the bottle says to dilute it to 1:1/:1:4/1:7 according to the service manual, and i am not able to find anything like this in the manual.
First of all can anyone tell me do I need to dilute it ? if yes, whats the ratio ?___________________________________________
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Thanks for the Info ...Originally posted by shreeda View PostTo all those who are concerned about Cramster Colt as a saddlebag for Duke. I did a little bit of touring with the setup and found it quite comfy. It fits perfectly and there's no problem riding with it.
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Same feeling here also. I too thought it to be light, but it's not alteast from this point of view. It's true that in an inclined position you'll need to get down and pull it backwards with much effort. All this must be due to the weight distribution of the Bike, but still it's managable for me.Originally posted by hunkofgals View Posteven if i stand and push the bike its kinda heavy
thought it would be light
and sitting on the bike and pushing it is a nightmare in slightly inclined positions
so im getting down and pulling the bike
You are correct that if the pressure is low you will find it hard to push or pull the bike, but in Duke's case even with perfect air pressure you'll find it hard anyday.Originally posted by manojkumar View Postdude check ur tyre pressure...also if the chain slack is ~5mm...i think it feels so because of tyre pressure..correct me if im wrong here but if the pressure is low u find it hard to push the bike.
I am not too confident that the chain slack could result into this issue. Howver, if your tire is not OK(I mean jammed, having less air pressure or the brakes are too tight that it keeps on biting the disc always) then it can lead to this behaviour.Originally posted by hunkofgals View Postmy tire pressure is 26 in front and 36 in the rear
and does chain slack results in making the bike harder to push ?
sorry for noob questions
im new to gear bikes
As per the instruction on the chain cover it is, but go through the Manual and you'll find its 29 front, 29 Rear solo and 32 Rear with Pillion.Originally posted by Ri$hi View PostThe recommended tyre pressures are 25 psi front, rear 28.5 psi solo and 32 with pillion. Anything more than the recommended figures will adversely affect the handling of the bike.
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+Originally posted by Shubz View PostThe readings on the swingarm is the correct one. You can have 25-28 on the front and 29-30 on the rear.
It could be your mindset
+Originally posted by AnupamOnWheels View PostNope Dude, I can feel something is wrong. Straight line stability is Ok, but while turning or moving the Steering I can feel the discomfort. Will surely ride a bit more to find out more about this or will visit the SVC today.
Originally posted by Brat View PostRather than visiting the SVC, You can just increase the pressure on both tyres by 2psi and see if the handling gets back to normal.
Now I can confirm that its a point of concern. Ridden some 30 - 40 Kms after I posted the issue. this is not a problem with tire pressure as I have tried with different air pressures(25/32, 25/30 or 28/32) and the result is same. It's not anything related to the chain as I had just tightened, cleaned and lubed it a week back, still lubed it once more today. Below is my observations -
1. While the Bike is not On(I mean ignition off) the the handlebar is moving freely from end to end, no discomfort.
2. When the Bike is in motion and in 1st or 2nd gear with speed less than 20 - 25, not much issue could be felt.
3. When the Bike crosses 30 around and in 3rd or higher gears the issue is evident. It seems that the front tire is glued to the road and it asks for a more than required effort to move the handlebar sideways.
4. While taking a corner or changing the direction by inclining the bike sideways and not turning the handlebar - the problem is less felt.
5. While trying to change direction by turning the handlebar sideways the problem is felt most. It seems that the front tire is actually sticking to the road to provide straight line stability.
6. Tried to search for any wires or any part which is messing with the handlebar and restricting it, but couldn't find any.
I will be visiting the SVC today for my first service. Can anybody shed some light so that it will be easier for me to find the fault and explain it to the SVC guyz??___________________________________________
The Monk who sold his Ferrari ........... Bought himself a Bike.
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Even I find the bike to be heavy, once the bike was caught in the sand and I wasn't cautious while pushing the bike and I got my wrist sprained.Originally posted by AnupamOnWheels View PostI too thought it to be light
Its a typo on the manual. It has already been discussed here, go through the previous posts. Click on the link below.Originally posted by AnupamOnWheels View PostAs per the instruction on the chain cover it is, but go through the Manual and you'll find its 29 front, 29 Rear solo and 32 Rear with Pillion.
Tyre pressure on the manual
What bike have You been riding before this one? This is quite normal on any bike to that matter not just Duke. At speed greater than 30km/h one needs to use counter-steering to change the direction on bikes unlike on cars where You turn the steering left to go left and vice versa.Originally posted by AnupamOnWheels View Post
Now I can confirm that its a point of concern. Ridden some 30 - 40 Kms after I posted the issue. this is not a problem with tire pressure as I have tried with different air pressures(25/32, 25/30 or 28/32) and the result is same. It's not anything related to the chain as I had just tightened, cleaned and lubed it a week back, still lubed it once more today. Below is my observations -
1. While the Bike is not On(I mean ignition off) the the handlebar is moving freely from end to end, no discomfort.
2. When the Bike is in motion and in 1st or 2nd gear with speed less than 20 - 25, not much issue could be felt.
3. When the Bike crosses 30 around and in 3rd or higher gears the issue is evident. It seems that the front tire is glued to the road and it asks for a more than required effort to move the handlebar sideways.
4. While taking a corner or changing the direction by inclining the bike sideways and not turning the handlebar - the problem is less felt.
5. While trying to change direction by turning the handlebar sideways the problem is felt most. It seems that the front tire is actually sticking to the road to provide straight line stability.
6. Tried to search for any wires or any part which is messing with the handlebar and restricting it, but couldn't find any.
I will be visiting the SVC today for my first service. Can anybody shed some light so that it will be easier for me to find the fault and explain it to the SVC guyz??
P.S: Anupam its high time You need to start using multiquotes, avoid consecutive posts, once you post and if You need to add something just edit the last post. What is the point in posting four to five posts continuously? Its considered as spamming here. Go through the forum etiquettes.
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Last edited by Ri$hi; 04-30-2012, 12:34 PM.
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day 5: over 300km done as of now. the bike is so so light!! loving it
the run in schedule that i followed was 4k RPM till 100km 5K till 250 km and now slowly raising the bar to 6K RPM!!
the tire has bedded in nicely.. will take it to nandi hills this weekend to get the corners working!!
@people who feel DUKE is heavy: Duke comes with a pair of soft compound tires. the tires provide more grip than normal tires on other bikes. also the contact patch of the tire is more because of the wider tire profile. therefore wider tire and sticky compound makes the bike difficult to roll in slower speeds when pushing the bike!
on the other hand: sticky rubber provides resistance to slippage, hence results in better traction resulting in better pickup and also better control at higher speeds.
due to wider tires turning the bike becomes difficult hence counter steering has to be mastered. sounds challenging, but is quite easy. most people actually do it unknowingly. so guys, start practicing counter steering and start exploring the hidden potential of your bike.
(my tire pressure is 25PSI front and 32PSI rear)
some facts from my bike: it is light and nimble. engine is not getting stressed upto 6K RPM (not tested beyond that)
top speed in 6th gear at 6K RPM is 77-80
top speed in 6th gear at 5K RPM is 68-70
top speed in 6th gear at 4K RPM is approx 60
i m tanking the throttle very easy and making sure i dont stress the engine. (that means maximum RPM per gear is not the same)
enjoy your DUKE boys
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COME RIDE WITH ME!!!!
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Securing the Coolant & Rear Brake Fluid cap

^^Simple DIY Jugaad to secure the Coolant cap from vandalism. I used a hose clamp (32mm) available at hardware stores.

^^Simple DIY Jugaad to secure the Rear Brake Fluid cap from vandalism. I used a hose clamp (50mm) available at hardware stores.
Caution: DO NOT over-tighten the clamps, as it may crack the plastic cap or the container head.Last edited by Janesh.J; 04-30-2012, 11:20 AM.30+ YEARS OF RIDING
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