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  • Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
    ..... Its a typo on the manual. It has already been discussed here, go through the previous posts. Click on the link below.
    Tyre pressure on the manual

    What bike have You been riding before this one? This is quite normal on any bike to that matter not just Duke. At speed greater than 30km/h one needs to use counter-steering to change the direction on bikes unlike on cars where You turn the steering left to go left and vice versa.

    P.S: Anupam its high time You need to start using multiquotes, avoid consecutive posts, once you post and if You need to add something just edit the last post. What is the point in posting four to five posts continuously? Its considered as spamming here. Go through the forum etiquettes.

    Forum etiquettes
    First of all thanks for sharing the link. I may have went through this but almost forgot. however, today only I went to the SVC and when I asked them they simply told me its 28 front and 32 rear. Do you beleve??

    I owned a Stunner before but have ridden many more. But it's nothing to do with the riding habbit. Me too know about the counter-steering and apply mostly, but this is a situation in a thick moving traffic where you are riding in a speed of say 30 and you need to change direction a bit suddenly(like a pothole infront or the Auto rickshaw just stopped infront), then I'll have to brake a little and change direction of the handlebar(Not sure whether I explained it properly ). Only then the problem was felt most. By the way, It's now confirmed by the SVC people that "there is some problem with the Racer" and they also felt the problem after taking it for a ride. They fist told that they would replace the 'Racer', but after a while they did something to the bike and the problem was real less. So they adviced me to carry on with this and if the problem persists or reoccurs they told that they'll change it. Now please don't ask me what is 'Racer' or have I heard it properly; coz I have no idea about this.

    Now, coming to the multi quote part; I do try to follow the etiquettes and multiquote my replies(you can see there are evidences of multiquotes also by me ) but sometimes I forget when in a hurry . However, sometimes I reply to different posts separately when the posts seems a bit unrelated to me. But still I'll keep an eye on this from now on.

    Originally posted by saj View Post
    ........
    @people who feel DUKE is heavy: Duke comes with a pair of soft compound tires. the tires provide more grip than normal tires on other bikes. also the contact patch of the tire is more because of the wider tire profile. therefore wider tire and sticky compound makes the bike difficult to roll in slower speeds when pushing the bike!
    ........
    I had a same thought/explanation before, but was not so sure. Now after watching your post it seems logical.

    Originally posted by NikhilB View Post
    ..........

    PS: Have got it confirmed that the exhaust headers are stainless steel. So the probability of rusting is minimal.
    Best info I got today. Thanks Nikhil.

    Originally posted by yogs.byke View Post
    .......

    does any one knows where is idle setting in duke.. for my pulsar it was right below the tank. i want to reduce the idling.
    Although it's not possible to modify the idling by ourselves still why do you want to reduce the idling?

    Originally posted by The Mountain View Post
    The Duke is fuel-injected, so there isn't an "idle" setting you can access. It's done by the engine computer.

    Also, upside-down forks are more prone to oil-leakage than traditional ones, particularly in environments where they are exposed to a lot of dirt/grime. It's one of the decisions I strongly question as to how the Duke was designed, or at least how it was released here in India........ .
    Do you think that the USD forks are of so low quality that they will not sustain Indian environment even if ridden sanely and maintained perfectly?? However, it's no doubt a part that requires more care from owners. The SVC people are stressing more and more to keep it clean everyday/every week.

    Originally posted by LoGun View Post
    Posting on behalf of my friend :
    .........

    -I think the accelerator cable is loose.. SOmetimes it doesnt pick up like it used to.
    ....................
    Is it happening everytime or only when your temperature bar is almost full and just below the cutoff range?? Me too feeling that the Bike is somehow feeling like suffocating(It's the best way I could explain) once it's too hot. Only in this situation the engine sound is changed and the bike feels like it's not able to match the throttle change.

    Originally posted by sonu611 View Post
    ............. and Be careful while riding on roads that are being tarred. Those are the worst kind of debris, it will definitely result in a fork leak if fork is not cleaned immediately.
    I use to ride through very dusty roads and sometimes over under construction roads(I live in Kolkata ). Till now never faced any issue due to the dust, debris or tar. However, I clean the fork almost regulerly(twice or thrice a week). So I also do feel the harm caused by the Tarred roads is somewhat rare(only if maintained properly).

    Originally posted by Doga View Post
    .....................
    It's be great if the owners could give me duke specific exhaustive PDI list. I searched through(not exhaustively) the thread but could not locate the page(am sure it's somewhere here). Or please give me the link to the appropriate page. - Same as any other bike.

    2)Any particualr suggestions on the insurance and RTO formalities(I am planning to get it registered in Vashi, Navi Mumbai) like extended warranties or additional cover. - Insurance and RTO formalities are also same as any other bike. However, when enquired the SVC I was told that they don't have any AMC or extended warranty for Duke.

    3)I am planning to get it registered on someone else's name(I recently shifted to a new rented residence and did not quite have all the required paperwork and can't wait anymore. Will there be any surprises in future? what kind of hassles or inconvenient situations can I encounter in the future. - Please don't do that unless it's really necessary. Coz according to the rule you can't drive any other person's bike(even if the person is your brother, friend or even father) unless you have an authorization letter from the same person. Also in future there can be any and every types of trouble if you go this way. If documents are a problem open any nationalized banks account and use it as proof.

    Guys please help me with prompt replies.
    In Bold.

    Originally posted by A_n_i View Post
    I got my Duke today! ..........

    Some quick snaps. Glad to be a fellow duke owner!
    Welcome to the Gang!!! Snaps are good, but if I can recollect that's near Victoria and Maidan(red road). If a cop had seen you there with your vehicle parked you could be in real trouble. No parking even on the Grass is permitted there.

    By the way, really nice helmet; from where did you get this and how much? Is that custom stickering?

    Originally posted by psycho28 View Post
    congratulations....
    +

    Originally posted by whytdelight View Post
    Hey A_N_I,

    Congratulations on the bike! Love the helmet? Where'd you pick it up?
    +

    Originally posted by sivigshankar View Post
    Welcome to the club Which helmet is that ? Custom stickering looks nice...
    +

    Originally posted by R-series View Post
    Congrates Dude, btw nice Lid, love the simplicity and the KTM edges
    Why haven't I received similar welcome???
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    • Thanks Anupam. Problem is I can't wait to lay my hands on the bike anymore. The bigger problem is I don't have anyone of the 'important' docs barring PAN card, driving license and company ID. No passport, no ration card, no Voter's ID. In fact no Police NOC even for my current rented apartment(I am sharing it with friends).Now trying to get your passport done from Mumbai, unless you have a whole assortment of docs, is like trying to elect a government which won't be corrupt.I feel foolish not to have get it done in college when it was super easy, in hindsight.I have discussed this with the Vashi PBK and he says it's fine. I am planning to transfer ownership when all the docs are in place. Till then I'll be happy driving the bike. Even if I don't own it technically.
      Also, please provide a PDI list if you can, keeping in mind common issues with the dukes.
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      • Originally posted by Doga View Post
        Hi Guys,

        had posted many queries few pages back. The one's I really wanted the answers were left unanswered. Not to be perturbed, here are a few more:

        1) I have finally decided on the duke.Have not made the payment, but the PBK vashi told me bike would be delivered in 1 or 2 days Actually had almost, even before I asked those questions here, but just wanted to make an informed decision.
        It's be great if the owners could give me duke specific exhaustive PDI list. I searched through(not exhaustively) the thread but could not locate the page(am sure it's somewhere here). Or please give me the link to the appropriate page.

        2)Any particualr suggestions on the insurance and RTO formalities(I am planning to get it registered in Vashi, Navi Mumbai) like extended warranties or additional cover.

        3)I am planning to get it registered on someone else's name(I recently shifted to a new rented residence and did not quite have all the required paperwork and can't wait anymore. Will there be any surprises in future? what kind of hassles or inconvenient situations can I encounter in the future.

        Guys please help me with prompt replies.
        Hi.. my advice is to wait for 2- 3 weeks more as there is still more to know about this duke...

        we already came across the problems like coolant oil leakage, exhaust color, petrol tank spilling, chain sounds and newly emerging problem forks oil leakage. Here this leads to question about bikes longevity or durability.......

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        • Tank Crack

          Originally posted by Shubz View Post
          I think I know of another case of cracked tank. It happened as the bike tipped over to one of its sides. No scratches whatsoever anywhere - except for 1 inch long hair line crack - starting at the fuel cap and tapering outwards.

          Harsha - did your bike fall?

          No, the bike is all fine.

          Reported this issue last week to Auto Service in Banashankari. They took photos of the crack, chassis number , said that they would forward it to KTM factory and get a reply from them. They did tell me that there was one more issue reported of similar nature but that was because of the bike fall.

          Yet to receive a call from them, tried reaching them today only to find out that they are closed on National Holidays.

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          • Led

            Tadaaa !!!!....My babys milk teeth...

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            • Hey Mountain,
              That's a good info. So USD forks in Duke is prone to more leakages? Is this with all USD shocks?
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              • Originally posted by Janesh.J View Post
                ^^Simple DIY Jugaad to secure the Rear Brake Fluid cap from vandalism. I used a hose clamp (50mm) available at hardware stores.

                Caution: DO NOT over-tighten the clamps, as it may crack the plastic cap or the container head.
                This is an Ingenious Idea, thanks for sharing!

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                • Originally posted by AnupamOnWheels View Post

                  Do you think that the USD forks are of so low quality that they will not sustain Indian environment even if ridden sanely and maintained perfectly?? However, it's no doubt a part that requires more care from owners. The SVC people are stressing more and more to keep it clean everyday/every week.
                  Good grief you people are hung up on "low quality". First it was the header pipe, now the fork. Don't think along the lines of "low quality", think rather "precision equipment". USD forks are, by nature, more susceptible to leaking. Because the part that does the moving slides inside the stanchions, rather than over as with a conventional fork, and because the "joint" where they meet is down near the road, and because the oil in the fork sits right on the seals, there's a much higher chance of leaks if a seal is even slightly damaged. On top of that, since the part of the fork that slides inside is down by the road, it gets dirtier. Any grit or dust that gets on those sliders will be pushed up into the fork seals.

                  On the typically rough/poorly-graded Indian road, the fork is going to be doing a lot of moving, thus rubbing all that dust and grit into the seals even more. To answer your question bluntly, no, I don't think the Duke can withstand the "Indian environment", even if the forks are cleaned daily. The roads here are just too dirty; sooner or later the damage from all that grime is going to take its toll, and the seals are going to go. The only real solution, short of swapping out the fork, is to put "fork boots" on, similar to those used by off-road racers. It is a small neoprene collar that covers the sliding joint of the fork, and acts as a second dust wiper as well as covering the portion of the fork that most frequently passes the fork seals so it's less likely to be scratched.

                  The fact is, the Duke isn't designed specifically for India. If it was, they would have put a conventional fork on it. As I noted in my earlier post, the USD fork is a waste of money and technology on this bike. In other markets, this bike is only going to be ridden by beginners, who won't ever ride aggressively enough for the fork to matter, and here, the environment is too dirty, and the roads by and large aren't good enough for the small handling differences to matter (plus the fork isn't even adjustable, so why bother?).

                  Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post
                  Hey Mountain,
                  That's a good info. So USD forks in Duke is prone to more leakages? Is this with all USD shocks?
                  Yes, USD forks are more prone to leakages, particularly in dirty environments. It's why most off-road bikes, even the race bikes, use conventional forks. This was a big concern in the US and Europe when bikes started showing up on the street with USD forks, and to some degree, that caution was warranted. Most roads in the US and Europe are clean enough that it's still rare to see leaks, but it does still happen. The reason USD forks became popular at all is because for some classes of motorcycle racing, the race bike has to have the same equipment that the publically-available version does; if they want an USD fork on the race bike, the showroom version has to have one too, even if the race bike's fork is hand-built by the factory while the showroom version comes from an assembly line.
                  Last edited by The Mountain; 05-01-2012, 01:38 PM.
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                  • Originally posted by The Mountain View Post
                    Good grief you people are hung up on "low quality". First it was the header pipe, now the fork. Don't think along the lines of "low quality", think rather "precision equipment". USD forks are, by nature, more susceptible to leaking. Because the part that does the moving slides inside the stanchions, rather than over as with a conventional fork, and because the "joint" where they meet is down near the road, and because the oil in the fork sits right on the seals, there's a much higher chance of leaks if a seal is even slightly damaged. On top of that, since the part of the fork that slides inside is down by the road, it gets dirtier. Any grit or dust that gets on those sliders will be pushed up into the fork seals.

                    On the typically rough/poorly-graded Indian road, the fork is going to be doing a lot of moving, thus rubbing all that dust and grit into the seals even more. To answer your question bluntly, no, I don't think the Duke can withstand the "Indian environment", even if the forks are cleaned daily. The roads here are just too dirty; sooner or later the damage from all that grime is going to take its toll, and the seals are going to go. The only real solution, short of swapping out the fork, is to put "fork boots" on, similar to those used by off-road racers. It is a small neoprene collar that covers the sliding joint of the fork, and acts as a second dust wiper as well as covering the portion of the fork that most frequently passes the fork seals so it's less likely to be scratched.

                    The fact is, the Duke isn't designed specifically for India. If it was, they would have put a conventional fork on it. As I noted in my earlier post, the USD fork is a waste of money and technology on this bike. In other markets, this bike is only going to be ridden by beginners, who won't ever ride aggressively enough for the fork to matter, and here, the environment is too dirty, and the roads by and large aren't good enough for the small handling differences to matter (plus the fork isn't even adjustable, so why bother?).
                    Now that's a good info there! So I have another question to you. Is this with all USD then?
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                    • Originally posted by Rajathslr View Post
                      Tadaaa !!!!....My babys milk teeth...

                      super like
                      how much it costed ?
                      is it led ?
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                      • Originally posted by The Mountain View Post
                        Yes, USD forks are more prone to leakages, particularly in dirty environments. It's why most off-road bikes, even the race bikes, use conventional forks. This was a big concern in the US and Europe when bikes started showing up on the street with USD forks, and to some degree, that caution was warranted. Most roads in the US and Europe are clean enough that it's still rare to see leaks, but it does still happen. The reason USD forks became popular at all is because for some classes of motorcycle racing, the race bike has to have the same equipment that the publically-available version does; if they want an USD fork on the race bike, the showroom version has to have one too, even if the race bike's fork is hand-built by the factory while the showroom version comes from an assembly line.
                        Really good information there, Thanks for sharing!
                        Originally posted by Rajathslr View Post
                        Tadaaa !!!!....My babys milk teeth...
                        Ha! Good one .. which bulb did you use there.. Cost.. Fitted at SVC or outside?
                        Last edited by NaveenRk; 05-01-2012, 01:52 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by nirvan View Post
                          Nice thinking, Janesh. Have you checked to ensure the clamp does not rotate along with the cap?

                          Need to take care to ensure the clamp isn't over-tightened. Perhaps adding some rubber packing will ensure a better grip and protect the plastic as well.
                          Thanks Nirvan,
                          I did check the cap for rotation, and the screw on the clamp restricts the rotation after a particular position, which ensures it cannot open, (it does rotate).
                          Yes we need to ensure that it is not over-tightened. I am planning to cover the clamp with heat shrink tubing, so it wont hurt the plastic and have better grip.
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                          • Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post
                            super like
                            how much it costed ?
                            is it led ?
                            Yes its LED, it costed me 125 bucks, but ppl say u can get it for as less as 90 bucks, but no regrets..

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                            • Originally posted by The Mountain View Post
                              Good grief you people are hung up on "low quality". First it was the header pipe, now the fork. Don't think along the lines of "low quality", think rather "precision equipment". ......
                              +1000

                              Mountain, I appreciate your patience.. all these questions reminds me the Maruti Ad... Kitna degi

                              I guess Performance biking is still a bit too early for India... I guess KTM and Bajaj guys have to do a lot more of educating to us before they go about the PBK concept..


                              Originally posted by The Mountain View Post
                              In other markets, this bike is only going to be ridden by beginners, who won't ever ride aggressively enough for the fork to matter.....
                              Even in India its a beginners bike to an extent ... don't think many will ride it that aggressively

                              Originally posted by Rajathslr View Post
                              Tadaaa !!!!....My babys milk teeth...
                              Nice... whats the bulb / power of the bulb ? Can we replace all this and still be within warranty ?

                              EDIT: I read that if the battery is over 7AH then we can put in HID lamps...Duke's battery is 8AH, so I assume we can put in a HID lamp without voiding warranty ?
                              Last edited by sivigshankar; 05-01-2012, 01:57 PM. Reason: additional question

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                              • Originally posted by NaveenRk View Post
                                Ha! Good one .. which bulb did you use there.. Cost.. Fitted at SVC or outside?
                                Fitted at SVC only, 125rs and the address of the shop..

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                                Initially he said 150bucks, i bargained..for 125, its not a branded one, but works just fine,

                                Yes it wouldnt effect the warranty is what the Service guys said, but better consult them once at your place too and moreover u can replace the bulb anytime, its just a clip on connection..
                                Last edited by Rajathslr; 05-01-2012, 01:58 PM.

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