How effective is Engine Ice Coolant as compared to Castrol and Motul coolant?

I found that there is a distributor in Mumbai

Address: The Motoshop
Address: 55, Maulana Azaad road, (Duncan Road),
Nagpada, Next to Cafe Sagar,
Mumbai - 400 008.

Hi Duke owners,

This is my first post in xbhp and inevitably it's a query.....................

1. How is the riding stance(upright,as it is) over long stretches?I mean say 100-200 + Kms. I have been told and have read that a slighly forward inclined position would be better suited for long distances.Please donot factor wind blast in while answering this.

2. How bad is the windblast after 80kmph. Manageable? off putting? proper riding gear would lessen it? how bad is it when compared with the CBR? am sure many owners must have ridden a CBR.

3. Does the engine feel unrefined/strained/gruff after 100-110kmph?

4. Are there considerable vibrations at those speeds? I know it's a single but I want to make sure thee vibrations are not annoying at higher speeds.

5.Can the bike do 120 all day witout a hiccup or the engine feels too hot/strained/unrefined at those speed for long stretches? This is a different point than the 3rd.

6. Is the pillion seat so small that everytime the rider grabs the front brake, the pillion helmet smashes into the rider helmet? I don't want that happening too often in our chaotic city traffic. - Yes that's a sure thing you would experience, but that's only because the Bike is having great acceleration on first gear and also great braking power. The small pillion seat only adds to this. But practise a calm acceleration and braking habit and you'll feel this a minimum.

7. What mods/ideas have you come up with to take the duke for tours? Is there any chance that this could be used for a tour wit6h apillion and a luggage(I think I already know the answer)? - I can only recommend using side type saddlebags. KTM may bring some luggage box in future, but rest assure that will be much costly.


ride offerred by the Vashi KTM is ridiculously short. You barely get the feel of the bike.It's over in a jiffy. I asked If I could take the bike to the Palm Beach road.They said no. I asked if I could have my GF ride pillion.No again. In contrast Pratik Honda let me drive with her pillion and on the palm beach road(after all the brickbats that the members of this forum throw at Honda dealers )

Are you sure the idle rpm is 200 - 300 rpm? I think it's 1100 - 1300 rpm. Also you need not worry about this as the ECU itself checks and adjusts the RPM(heard from the KTM guy during owners meet).

*I think he meant it changes over a range of 200-300RPM i.e 1100-1400RPM.


*ECU auto correcting the RPM is a new information for me.
*Exhaust pipe discoloration/coolant spills are niggles and not major issues.
*Prospective owners go through all the owners feedback before arriving at a conclusion or premature judgement.

Hi,

Engine ice coolant is better than both castrol and Motul as it does reduce the operating temperature of the engine by a good margin. Talking about atleast 5'C reduction of engine temperature during peak traffic conditions.

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I believe, Abhimanyu31 would be the best person to provide you with his first hand experience on using Engine Ice instead of stock coolant on your Duke 200 and get rid of the excessive heat which almost all the duke'd riders are experiencing. Although, last I checked with Abhimanyu31, pricing wise it is bit on steeper side. So if 2/3 duke riders club in then the per head cost will drastically reduce.

Hope this was useful

Cheers,

Hmmm... I also feel that he meant 1100 -1400 RPM.

Right.. in fact many in the west like it that way.. to them it adds to the high performance looks of the bike. They regard it as a "badge" as it makes the bike look like it's getting ridden..!!


One such example:

Hi,

Engine ice coolant is better than both castrol and Motul as it does reduce the operating temperature of the engine by a good margin. Talking about atleast 5'C reduction of engine temperature during peak traffic conditions. I have come across my friend's Ninja, Abhimanyu31's Yamaha R16 and my friends full souped up Joelled, R170 (27bhp little monster, which creamed a duke 200 0-100 kmph drag, while we were testing new engine maps for the programmable Powertronic ECU.Too much OT for this thread will talk on some other time ) .

Anyways, all of these rides have Engine Ice Coolant and it works brilliantly. None of the rides, not even the Parallel twin Ninja's Radiator fan came on during peak traffic. By default even after a 250km ride we took a pit stop and surprisingly all the bikes cooled in less than 10 mins which is way faster than stock coolant. A heads up though; when going out for a ride with engine ice installed, one has to let the engine idle atleast for 15-20seconds. Because of its rapid cooling properties, the bike's engine needs a little bit of heating up to reach its optimum operating temperature. Not something to be gravely concerned about though.

I believe, Abhimanyu31 would be the best person to provide you with his first hand experience on using Engine Ice instead of stock coolant on your Duke 200 and get rid of the excessive heat which almost all the duke'd riders are experiencing. Although, last I checked with Abhimanyu31, pricing wise it is bit on steeper side. So if 2/3 duke riders club in then the per head cost will drastically reduce.

Hope this was useful

Cheers,

BTW how steep is the price.. can u tell me a rough price for it?

does any one find the rear view mirrors on the duke useful ?

i think it provides least visibility
can we do anything to it?
ive tried adjusting in all the angles but no use
i can hardly see a thing in that mirror

which coolant is that
i got my duke 3 days back n coolant level is below min
i need to blast those service guys

and how much can this engine ice coolant cost's ?
can i change it now or after 1st service ?
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does any one find the rear view mirrors on the duke useful ?

i think it provides least visibility
can we do anything to it?
ive tried adjusting in all the angles but no use
i can hardly see a thing in that mirror

It's $23 for 2L container at Motorcycle superstore. So it should cost around Rs.1500 here I guess. Cycle Logic Engine Ice Coolant - Mobile Motorcycle Superstore

I believe these particular exhausts were manufactured by a company called micron and I remember them being sold like this, they were treated with heat to achieve this tinge of gold blue and magenta. In the Duke this effect would not be so pronounced, although the way the chrome is peeling off I will definitely make sure they replace my KTMs bend pipe after the rains. There is NO WAY the exhaust is being tempered normally in the KTM 200 DUKE. It should be a Change in color YES, but without the messy peeling and rusting!!!

I will make sure I get this replaced after the rains, even if they say its normal, I'll make sure I get it changed under warranty. Any xbhpians in Mumbai with a KTM 200 DUKE facing this issue can definitely join me after the monsoons to get a replacement of this bend pipe, coz if we address it as a group it will be taken a lot more seriously.

EDIT: Have emailed the Bajaj Customer Care along with the Pictures of the Exhaust discoloration.

There was one posted 2 pages back. And that one looks nothing like the one pictured.

Edit: And now it strikes me, I have seen such exhausts on RXs and Shoguns in the past!!!

Posting here for ease of analysis.

The first pic looks bad, but that is apparently due to the out-of-focus close-up. The next two look much more normal. The exhaust is made from straight pipes that are bent on mandrels to fit the bike. Thus, the metal gets stressed in different areas during the bending process. You can see the whole pipe is yellowing. Some areas are already purple, and the rest of the pipe will probably "catch up" over time. And yes, as noted elsewhere, some people actually buy pipes pre-colored to make it look like the bike's been ridden hard.

Also, it's not just big bikes. Plenty of dirt-bikes, even 125 and 50cc bikes, have the same exhaust discoloration. It's a function of the metal used for the exhaust and the temperatures involved.