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**hunkofgals** · 05-19-2012, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by rungtavikas View Post

Guys here is an instance on duke i met while apply brake in emergency, due to my fault i created such an situation.

I was riding back to home on major district road around 11Pm on the low beam headlight on 6th gear at 80kmph and does not notice speed breaker ahead and applied front brakes (I rely more on front brake & more often doesn't apply rear). The bike rear tyre has been lifted in air for about few mtr as if i was doing front willy, although i wasn't, since handle was steady i landed safely on ground without skidding or injury to me & my bike.
But definitively duke brake being so powerful you can't apply only one you need to apply both brakes at the same time.

same incident happened with me
i was riding along with a pillion at around 40-50 km/hr in beach road and suddenly auto driver ahead of me stopped the vechile
i got panicked and applied the front brake as i used to use only front brake in my DIO earlier
and the bike got lifted at the back and the pillion slipped the bike

but didnt fall down
.
Lesson ive learnt
dont use the front disc brake alone
use in 60:40 ratio , front and rear brakes
.
from that day on wards i started to put my foot on the rear brake lever

**The Mountain** · 05-19-2012, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by rungtavikas View Post

...on high beam on highways / major road,...

I'd like to take a quick OT moment to mention this, as it applies to both bikes and cars. This may or may not be a problem everywhere in India, but it seems to be enough of an issue where I am, including drivers from other nearby states, to warrant mention.

Proper road etiquette for using headlights at night, based on the years of "development" around the globe, is that drivers should use the high beam setting only if all the following conditions apply:

No oncoming traffic, even if the road is divided
No reduced visibility i.e. no rain/fog/snow
Not following another vehicle at any distance less than 1km.

And, even if all those conditions apply, the headlights should be set to "low beam" when any oncoming traffic appears and is still at least 300-400 meters away, and only changed again when well past said traffic.

This may well mean that you never use the high beam(s) in your city, except possibly very late at night or on some very secluded road. Using the high beams when there is any traffic around only serves to blind oncoming drivers, making it more difficult for them to see the road markings as well as any pedestrians or animals that might be in the road. It is also very annoying to any drivers you might be following, as the light will overwhelm the rearview mirror, making it difficult for them to keep track of what is behind them.

A handy trick to deal with ignorant drivers that do not keep their headlights properly dimmed, you can look down and to the left, and follow the lane marking or shoulder stripe on the road until past the offending driver. Make sure to glance from time to time to make sure no animals or people have wandered out in front of you. This will help prevent you from getting a big blotch in your vision from the other guy's high beams after they have gone by, which could make it harder to see the road.

Note, an exception for motorcycles to the high-beam rule: During daylight hours, driving with the headlight on and set to high beam makes you more visible to other vehicles, which means they're less likely to hit you. It also makes you appear closer than you are to any vehicles in front of you, which might (small chance of this here, I know) mean they won't just pull out in front of you. Just remember that when the sun starts to set, you need to switch back to low beam.

Also, take the time to make sure your headlight is properly aimed. The "low" setting should be pointed at a spot on the ground about 30-50 meters in front of the bike, and slightly to the left, and the high should be pointed straight ahead and level.

I realize that those of you stuck with bikes that lack a battery-based electrical system have feeble headlights, but when your bike's engine is running at speed, the light is still bright enough that, if set on "high", can be blinding to oncoming drivers. You should still use "low" unless your speed is low enough that the magneto on your bike can't properly illuminate the headlight.

**rungtavikas** · 05-19-2012, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by The Mountain View Post

I'd like to take a quick OT moment to mention this, as it applies to both bikes and cars. This may or may not be a problem everywhere in India, but it seems to be enough of an issue where I am, including drivers from other nearby states, to warrant mention.

Proper road etiquette for using headlights at night, based on the years of "development" around the globe, is that drivers should use the high beam setting only if all the following conditions apply:

No oncoming traffic, even if the road is divided
No reduced visibility i.e. no rain/fog/snow
Not following another vehicle at any distance less than 1km.

And, even if all those conditions apply, the headlights should be set to "low beam" when any oncoming traffic appears and is still at least 300-400 meters away, and only changed again when well past said traffic.

This may well mean that you never use the high beam(s) in your city, except possibly very late at night or on some very secluded road. Using the high beams when there is any traffic around only serves to blind oncoming drivers, making it more difficult for them to see the road markings as well as any pedestrians or animals that might be in the road. It is also very annoying to any drivers you might be following, as the light will overwhelm the rearview mirror, making it difficult for them to keep track of what is behind them.

A handy trick to deal with ignorant drivers that do not keep their headlights properly dimmed, you can look down and to the left, and follow the lane marking or shoulder stripe on the road until past the offending driver. Make sure to glance from time to time to make sure no animals or people have wandered out in front of you. This will help prevent you from getting a big blotch in your vision from the other guy's high beams after they have gone by, which could make it harder to see the road.

Note, an exception for motorcycles to the high-beam rule: During daylight hours, driving with the headlight on and set to high beam makes you more visible to other vehicles, which means they're less likely to hit you. It also makes you appear closer than you are to any vehicles in front of you, which might (small chance of this here, I know) mean they won't just pull out in front of you. Just remember that when the sun starts to set, you need to switch back to low beam.

Also, take the time to make sure your headlight is properly aimed. The "low" setting should be pointed at a spot on the ground about 30-50 meters in front of the bike, and slightly to the left, and the high should be pointed straight ahead and level.

I realize that those of you stuck with bikes that lack a battery-based electrical system have feeble headlights, but when your bike's engine is running at speed, the light is still bright enough that, if set on "high", can be blinding to oncoming drivers. You should still use "low" unless your speed is low enough that the magneto on your bike can't properly illuminate the headlight.

+100 for it, good info, will adhere to it.

**joel_sherly** · 05-20-2012, 12:16 AM

When applying the brakes in the ratio 60:40 or 70:30. Which break should be pressed first?? Should the brake be applied first in the rear wheel or the front or both at the same time????

Actually I use any of the method mentioned above . Experts could you please guide me

**joshzma225** · 05-20-2012, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by joel_sherly View Post

When applying the brakes in the ratio 60:40 or 70:30. Which break should be pressed first?? Should the brake be applied first in the rear wheel or the front or both at the same time????

Actually I use any of the method mentioned above . Experts could you please guide me

Ideally when you're faced with an "incident" while riding , you will instinctively apply the front brakes and then the back brakes, At least that's the way my reflexes work...

As for what ratio, I would say 70:30 front to rear brakes.

**mulli84** · 05-20-2012, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by The Mountain View Post

I'd like to take a quick OT moment to mention this, as it applies to both bikes and cars. This may or may not be a problem everywhere in India, but it seems to be enough of an issue where I am, including drivers from other nearby states, to warrant mention.

Proper road etiquette for using headlights at night, based on the years of "development" around the globe, is that drivers should use the high beam setting only if all the following conditions apply:

No oncoming traffic, even if the road is divided
No reduced visibility i.e. no rain/fog/snow
Not following another vehicle at any distance less than 1km.

And, even if all those conditions apply, the headlights should be set to "low beam" when any oncoming traffic appears and is still at least 300-400 meters away, and only changed again when well past said traffic.

This may well mean that you never use the high beam(s) in your city, except possibly very late at night or on some very secluded road. Using the high beams when there is any traffic around only serves to blind oncoming drivers, making it more difficult for them to see the road markings as well as any pedestrians or animals that might be in the road. It is also very annoying to any drivers you might be following, as the light will overwhelm the rearview mirror, making it difficult for them to keep track of what is behind them.

A handy trick to deal with ignorant drivers that do not keep their headlights properly dimmed, you can look down and to the left, and follow the lane marking or shoulder stripe on the road until past the offending driver. Make sure to glance from time to time to make sure no animals or people have wandered out in front of you. This will help prevent you from getting a big blotch in your vision from the other guy's high beams after they have gone by, which could make it harder to see the road.

Note, an exception for motorcycles to the high-beam rule: During daylight hours, driving with the headlight on and set to high beam makes you more visible to other vehicles, which means they're less likely to hit you. It also makes you appear closer than you are to any vehicles in front of you, which might (small chance of this here, I know) mean they won't just pull out in front of you. Just remember that when the sun starts to set, you need to switch back to low beam.

Also, take the time to make sure your headlight is properly aimed. The "low" setting should be pointed at a spot on the ground about 30-50 meters in front of the bike, and slightly to the left, and the high should be pointed straight ahead and level.

I realize that those of you stuck with bikes that lack a battery-based electrical system have feeble headlights, but when your bike's engine is running at speed, the light is still bright enough that, if set on "high", can be blinding to oncoming drivers. You should still use "low" unless your speed is low enough that the magneto on your bike can't properly illuminate the headlight.

I`ve experienced some idiotic truck drivers who just are lazy to repair their right side headlights. It seems like a two wheeler is driving along the left side of the road where actually a truck is coming opposite without the right head light on. This is extremely dangerous. So plz get to low beam at appropriate times. High beam will never show these!

**mulli84** · 05-20-2012, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by joel_sherly View Post

When applying the brakes in the ratio 60:40 or 70:30. Which break should be pressed first?? Should the brake be applied first in the rear wheel or the front or both at the same time????

Actually I use any of the method mentioned above . Experts could you please guide me

If im in speeds less than 25 kmph, Ill can apply front brakes only. anything more than that ill apply both brakes. However I change the braking priority based on the road conditions. But for experimentation, better apply rear brake first.

**surins** · 05-20-2012, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by Redliner View Post

Hey All,

Are any of the Bangalore Katoomers interested in riding up to Nandi Hills this Saturday Morn? Theres a couple of us headed that way at about 6 am. Msg me at XXXXXXXXXX if you'd like to come along.

Cheerio

let me know if you have any plans for next weekend

**venkatramanp** · 05-20-2012, 02:03 PM

Air or Nitro

What do you folks fill in the Duke? Air or Nitrogen? I guess whats filled at the time of delivery is Air.

Its more than 10 days since I took the delivery and slowly/steadily I'm gaining control over the bike (first few days it was the bike

). The handle is a bit hard for a typical software engineer - but guess anyone would get used to it. The only accessory I felt necessary at this point is a a Shift Sock (saw this in duke200 fb: Performance Racing Store. SHIFT SOCK) else finding it a bit difficult to shift the gears with shoes like Nike air.

**LoGun** · 05-20-2012, 02:16 PM

RC book/card

Hi all.. Quick question for Pune owners, How long does it take for the RC book /card to come. Mine is PCMC registered bike and I had got it on March 29th(Given for registration well before that). Its not yet delivered yet. Called the showroom guys they are telling 3 months now. Is it really going to take so long? Do I need to do something about it?

**sivigshankar** · 05-20-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by venkatramanp View Post

What.......The only accessory I felt necessary at this point is a a Shift Sock (saw this in duke200 fb: Performance Racing Store. SHIFT SOCK) else finding it a bit difficult to shift the gears with shoes like Nike air.

I have got this on my Duke... thinking if I should get one more for the brake lever as well

**joel_sherly** · 05-20-2012, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by sivigshankar View Post

I have got this on my Duke... thinking if I should get one more for the brake lever as well

1000 rupees for a shift sock?!?! Worth it?

**Debashish** · 05-20-2012, 11:05 PM

Another bike review

A very weird comparo considering the contenders, but, it is a nice read. And, the Duke, as always, gets praised.

Top Gear - Duke vs Impulse vs R15 V2.0

**venkatramanp** · 05-20-2012, 11:25 PM

SivigShankar, where did you buy the Shift sock? I don't see an option to buy in the performance racing website. Is the Shift Sock available in Bangalore stores?

**joel_sherly** · 05-21-2012, 01:12 AM

KTM Duke 200 reviewed - Car news - BBC TopGear Magazine India Official Website

This review says the duke gives <20 kmpl of mileage!!!!!!!!

This certainly shook me

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