Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hm, I see.
Well, it looks like the coolant can sneak in even with 7100. Maybe the real cause of leakage is something else? Or at least partially...

I don't know. How do you see there's a coolant in the oil? Is it if there's some green drops floating on oil?
I think that's what I saw in my bike after those 2 months where the bike wasn't used.

Haha, I think Dukers aren't using their bikes much! Is there ANYONE with 25k km?
I'm only at 7.5k km after 1 year...

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When I said coolant had mixed with oil even after using 7100, I meant, the packing isn't tight enough. If the packing isn't tight then it is easy for 300v to cause such issues.
When coolant mixes with the oil, the colour of the oil changes.
[MENTION=63586]DukeDey[/MENTION], dude you are lucky with P200 and 300V combo. My brother tried 300V on his 220 FI long time back, and it started leaking after 1000KMs. The thing is we cant be sure if the engine packing is good enough.

The only way around is to experience it yourself. If nothing happens all is well.

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Ok. I'll put the 300V then, but I'll keep an eye on the color of oil...

Can this be relevant to how the engine was broken in during the run in phase?
I've talked to few mechanics who opened many engines, they said that most engines have their cylinder walls glazed and there's oil leakage because the bike owners were babying their bikes during the run in.

If you break in your engine faster and stronger, with some redlining at the beginning, then the pistons align to cylinder walls tightly and perfectly and there's no oil leakage.

That might explain why some bikes have the coolant leakage issue, and some don't...

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Yes, you may be correct. I dont believe in babying my bike/car during the running in. I ride it the usual way, making a point never to lug the engine. I guess when people baby the bike, they try to restrict themselves strictly to a certain rpm where higher gears would cause lugging.

I try to push the bike quite often during the breaking in, making it a point not to hit the redline or rev limiter too often. I have been doing this since last 4-5 years.

I did the same on my 220 DTSi, and when I went for the mods, Joel said the block and piston was in good shape. Wherein, my friend who completed the running very carefully, his block piston was in a bad shape when we had gone for mods.

My P230 (after the mods) held up fine till 20K kms before I sold it. Doing the same with my Duke, and I see bike responding well to throttle inputs.

I can experience the front lightening up when I push the bike hard. I am not complaining, I love that feel. I feel little more power and this machine can do power wheelies.

I will be visiting Joel by this year end in Bangalore to get the head work and other mods.

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And the friend happens to be me ... Yes babyin the new engine is the worst treat during break in phase.

But the leakage and double Easters have their own set of chemistry here. In 220 it was mostly due to absence of any kind of physical gasket in engine head. Silicon gel gasket usually gets dissolved with double esters in 300 over the period of time.
200ns (& duke) have rubber gaskets present in engine heads. So I doubt if esters in 300 can cause any leak here owing to solid rubber gasket which is very much unlikely.
Leakages from crank and internal water pump is the next headache area.
A new set of gaskets in these areas would be handy provided the surface metals are free from any kind of defects.
Again , in my 220 dts-fi engine head was a oil spills art gallery irrespective of what was inside. :screwy: and the culprit was a hole in one of the head bolt well ( a pinch of Mseal fixed it thou )


IMO 7100 is good enough alternative for 300v ..

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Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi All,

After much debate with myself, decided to go for the KTM Duke 200. Its been 5 days since I got a brand new duke and had a few questions in mind.

I noticed that the engine oil used was Motul 7100 at the time of delivery, from what I have read in this thread, people normally get with Semi Synthetic oil, so will using Full Synthetic oil hamper the engine later? When I asked the ASC guys, they said that they are delivering all bikes with 7100.

My last bike was a Pulsar 150 and I could easily find Neutral, but its been a little difficult to find neutral with the Duke, as in I keep shifting between 1st and 2nd, and only after some effort I find neutral. Is this normal until the first service?

Its completed 240 kms and its been great so far, but 2 days back, I pushed the bike to 7k rpm and since then its making a khat khat noise from around the engine area after using the bike for sometime. Seems like its the tappet noise, should I be concerned. Also, its only present after using the bike for sometime, its not there at startup.

Sorry for all the noob questions!

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Congrats for the new ride. Its a really nice machine, would serve you well and provide you with your fair share of fun.
Regarding the engine noise, is it very loud?
Because the engine noise does change a little after the engine warms up. Don't worry, ride it till the first service and may be get your first service done a little early(500kms). I do it that way and while at the svc ask the mech why the noise.
Tappets should not get loose so early and if it came that way from the company then it would be taken care of.

Enjoy the bike. Ride safe.

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Thanks [MENTION=63586]DukeDey[/MENTION]! The noise is not present at start up, comes in after 15 min or so of riding, its not very loud, can only hear it when its stand still as the helmet cuts off such noises when riding. Will try to get it serviced early on and see if it exist!
Will visit the SVC later today and ask the people there if its anything wrong.

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Not only dukes even ninjas are coming with 7100 FS oil atleast here in vizag nothing to get tensed enjoy the ride buddy seen a duke 390 in my area didnt impressed with its sound little smoother & sane than 200 that guy is ripping like a hell but the sound doesn't seemed like 200. The sound is more like relaxed & lazy.

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Hey guys need help again,facing 1 more new problem. Jus got my bike again after the accident,the service guys seem to have done a good job but i hav noticed that after the accident now the bike suspension has become almost non-existent and there is continous shaky-jerky feeling even on smooth roads. During the repair work my fork seal was replaced so is it because of this i am facing this problem?? my rear suspension setting is at 6 and it always worked for me on the bad mumbai roads but now even the rear suspension seems to have become non-existent even when its on 6 rite now!!! So guys plzz reply wat should i do as tommorow i am going to the service centre to solve this problem as its a big hindrance during my daily travel. plz reply

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Thanks for the assurance.

Right now am only concerned about the khat khat noise coming from the engine are, specifically near the spark plug. Anyway, will give it some more time and see if it changes.

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The sound comes only when the engine is hot right??? say a ride for 5kms

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Yes, only after the engine is hot and have ridden for 5-10min or so. Since its still in the run in period, I let the engine idle for at least 2 minutes and no such sound is there, but once I ride for say 5 kms, the noise comes out of no where.

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Most probably the sound is from the tappets get it rectified during the 1st service if you are irritated with the noise & unable to bear just visit the service center & show to the experienced ktm mech he can solve the issue

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Yep, will visit the ASC on my way back form work, hope its fixed asap.