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  • #7636
    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Thanx dukedey & punarvasu.

    Living with increased expenses of fuel & servicing won't be easy for me and after going through this thread front to back 200 makes a lot more sense but I'm hoping that one full twist of the hand would make all of it worthwhile + kiirus is already working on 390 ecu so I see lot of positivity in this direction.

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    Thanx dukedey & punarvasu.

    Living with increased expenses of fuel & servicing won't be easy for me and after going through this thread front to back 200 makes a lot more sense but I'm hoping that one full twist of the hand would make all of it worthwhile + kiirus is already working on 390 ecu so I see lot of positivity in this direction.
    You Start Your Life with a Full Pot of Luck and an Empty Pot of Experience, the Object is to Fill the Pot of Experience Before you Empty the Pot of Luck.....!!

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    • #7637
      Re: KTM 200 Duke

      Originally posted by dnewguy View Post
      Living with increased expenses of fuel & servicing won't be easy for me and after going through this thread front to back 200 makes a lot more sense but I'm hoping that one full twist of the hand would make all of it worthwhile + kiirus is already working on 390 ecu so I see lot of positivity in this direction.
      Go for test rides on both bikes before you decide finally.
      Last edited by punarvasu; 10-16-2013, 01:55 AM.

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      • #7638
        Re: KTM 200 Duke

        [MENTION=63586]DukeDey[/MENTION], emothic, chinmayakar, dishayu, thanks a lot for your inputs on the bike. I have booked the 390.
        Put some details in this thread.
        [MENTION=63636]dnewguy[/MENTION], have you considered pre owned? You can get some decent used D200 - only 6 or 7K km for 90k.
        KTM Duke 390 | RE Interceptor 650

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        • #7639
          Re: KTM 200 Duke

          Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
          Well, not exactly. If you can live with the extra fuel expense, extra heat, more gear changes or riding in the lower gears and still be happy with the way the power is delivered inside the city then go for the duke 390.
          There are far more impractical bikes(read sbk's) in the market and people still buy one and ride it in the city. I was talking sense while asking everyone to go for a 200 if its limited to city. But who cares about sense? I don't and have already upgraded to a 390. So can you!

          Sent from my GT-I9100
          Extra fuel expenses? = Someone is picking up a 2.1L rupee 2-wheeler and is worried about fuel eff?? It returns a nice 25kmpl! what more one expects? Zma (sometimes my P200) used to return me similar fuel eff with less than half the power!
          Extra heat? = D200 heats just as much. Not less. The difference is only as much as 19 for D200 and 20 for D390. If you wanna enjoy engine heat, try riding a N250R in Delhi summer in peak traffic .
          More gear changes? = You hardly get to hit above 4th gear. Its much more comfortable unless someone likes surfing through gears all the time. I dont have any problem riding in lower gears, they are well spaced out and are perfect for city use.
          D390 Feels a lot like my 1st gen G13B Swift. Calm at lower revs and once you start ripping her, she completely changes her character and makes you smile like none other .


          Its more to do with Character of both bikes and which one the rider ends up liking. Its like arguing if Naughty America is better or Brazzers! Both are equally good and it all depends on taste.
          Its kinda like 600cc vs 1000cc... which one is better .
          Last edited by riot; 10-16-2013, 05:40 PM.
          Street racing is for Squids trying to make up for their small equipment

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          • #7640
            Re: KTM 200 Duke

            Originally posted by riot View Post


            Its more to do with Character of both bikes and which one the rider ends up liking. Its like arguing if Naughty America is better or Brazzers! Both are equally good and it all depends on taste.
            Its kinda like 600cc vs 1000cc... which one is better .
            Duke 200 is better than 390 and X art is better than both brazzers and naughty america
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            • #7641
              Re: KTM 200 Duke

              Originally posted by timuseravan View Post
              I have booked the 390.
              That is wise decision. Considering the speed and pickup, D390 is better than any bike popular on our roads. Its excellent torque guarantees easy ride through city traffic without frequent downshifting.
              Its compression ratio is 12.8:1 and hence good – a little less than D200; perhaps – mileage but hotter engine demanding high octane RON 95 fuel.

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              • #7642
                Re: KTM 200 Duke

                Originally posted by riot View Post
                Extra fuel expenses? = Someone is picking up a 2.1L rupee 2-wheeler and is worried about fuel eff?? It returns a nice 25kmpl! what more one expects? Zma (sometimes my P200) used to return me similar fuel eff with less than half the power!
                Extra heat? = D200 heats just as much. Not less. The difference is only as much as 19 for D200 and 20 for D390. If you wanna enjoy engine heat, try riding a N250R in Delhi summer in peak traffic .
                More gear changes? = You hardly get to hit above 4th gear. Its much more comfortable unless someone likes surfing through gears all the time. I dont have any problem riding in lower gears, they are well spaced out and are perfect for city use.
                D390 Feels a lot like my 1st gen G13B Swift. Calm at lower revs and once you start ripping her, she completely changes her character and makes you smile like none other .


                Its more to do with Character of both bikes and which one the rider ends up liking. Its like arguing if Naughty America is better or Brazzers! Both are equally good and it all depends on taste.
                Its kinda like 600cc vs 1000cc... which one is better .
                Budd, I have owned all the bikes you quoted and finally getting my 390 this friday. Believe me with whatever I have written. The heat is twice as bad compared to a duke 200. Fuel economy might not be much of an issue for others but it definitely is for me.(IT salary)
                And coming down to gears, the duke 390 is simply not rideable at speeds below 18-20kmph in second cog without the engine complaining or you working the clutch. You have to work the clutch more whereas on the 200 even 4th cog would have been fine for the engine. Its not all about power and torque but the primary gear ratios are such that the character and how the power is delivered differs on both the bikes. The 390 is really tall geared.

                I know even you are getting your 390 soon, enjoy riding the mini superbike bro. (yes, the 390 acts like a mini sbk)

                Cheers, Ride safe!!

                Sent from my GT-I9100
                Why 2wheels over 4.....
                Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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                • #7643
                  Re: KTM 200 Duke

                  Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                  Budd, I have owned all the bikes you quoted and finally getting my 390 this friday. Believe me with whatever I have written. The heat is twice as bad compared to a duke 200. Fuel economy might not be much of an issue for others but it definitely is for me.(IT salary)
                  And coming down to gears, the duke 390 is simply not rideable at speeds below 18-20kmph in second cog without the engine complaining or you working the clutch. You have to work the clutch more whereas on the 200 even 4th cog would have been fine for the engine. Its not all about power and torque but the primary gear ratios are such that the character and how the power is delivered differs on both the bikes. The 390 is really tall geared.

                  I know even you are getting your 390 soon, enjoy riding the mini superbike bro. (yes, the 390 acts like a mini sbk)

                  Cheers, Ride safe!!

                  Sent from my GT-I9100
                  Agree with the gearing part. Its fun to potter around at 30 km/hr in 5th gear in traffic, and then dart as soon as you are in mood to ride hard. Engine does not feel like it is lugging, thats the best part.

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                  • #7644
                    Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
                    Agree with the gearing part.
                    So, the primary gear ratio is deciding the torque at rear wheel? OK. Mea maxima culpa.

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                    • #7645
                      Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                      So, the primary gear ratio is deciding the torque at rear wheel? OK. Mea maxima culpa.
                      No, its regulating the torque that reaches the front sprockets which in turn deliver the power to the rear sprocket and thus driving the wheels.

                      If you have a question, post it as it is. No need to add gibberish with that.

                      Edit: My bad I didn't understand the meaning of mea maxima culpa. Thought this was again being stretched. Now I know.

                      Sent from my GT-I9100
                      Last edited by DukeDey; 10-17-2013, 12:44 AM.
                      Why 2wheels over 4.....
                      Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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                      • #7646
                        Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                        If you have a question, post it as it is. No need to add gibberish with that.
                        I have nothing to ask you as your level of knowledge is far beyond my reach. The only kindness I ask you is to be kind enough to not answer to my posts.

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                        • #7647
                          Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Originally posted by Doga View Post
                          Duke 200 is better than 390 and X art is better than both brazzers and naughty america
                          I will prefer to have both in my garage. Brazzers is my fav but I like naughty america and X art too .

                          Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                          Budd, I have owned all the bikes you quoted and finally getting my 390 this friday. Believe me with whatever I have written. The heat is twice as bad compared to a duke 200. Fuel economy might not be much of an issue for others but it definitely is for me.(IT salary)
                          And coming down to gears, the duke 390 is simply not rideable at speeds below 18-20kmph in second cog without the engine complaining or you working the clutch. You have to work the clutch more whereas on the 200 even 4th cog would have been fine for the engine. Its not all about power and torque but the primary gear ratios are such that the character and how the power is delivered differs on both the bikes. The 390 is really tall geared.

                          I know even you are getting your 390 soon, enjoy riding the mini superbike bro. (yes, the 390 acts like a mini sbk)

                          Cheers, Ride safe!!

                          Sent from my GT-I9100
                          My experience with 390 in traffic has not been as bad as with the Baby Ninja. She really used to fry me up (can never forget it). 390 compared to that seems much cooler, maybe because it is naked. Gearing too felt okay in traffic to me as I prefer staying in 1st gear (evn on my P200) and sometimes push with my feet (if the jam is huge and to save fuel ) .

                          I will put a bigger rear sprocket on my D390 anyways bro. So it should be more fun in coming months.
                          Street racing is for Squids trying to make up for their small equipment

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                          • #7648
                            Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Originally posted by riot View Post

                            I will put a bigger rear sprocket on my D390 anyways bro. So it should be more fun in coming months.
                            Why not a smaller front? The duke 200's 14t would be a direct fit and would give you a difference of roughly around 3 teeth at the rear. This would be the most wallet friendly way to undergear the bike as finding a rear oem sprocket that is bigger than 390's(45 is already very big) is going to be a tough job and if you go for a custom sprocket it'll burn a hole in your pocket, also a rear sprocket upgrade would need a bigger chain.

                            Sent from my GT-I9100
                            Why 2wheels over 4.....
                            Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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                            • #7649
                              Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                              Why not a smaller front? The duke 200's 14t would be a direct fit and would give you a difference of roughly around 3 teeth at the rear. This would be the most wallet friendly way to undergear the bike as finding a rear oem sprocket that is bigger than 390's(45 is already very big) is going to be a tough job and if you go for a custom sprocket it'll burn a hole in your pocket, also a rear sprocket upgrade would need a bigger chain. Sent from my GT-I9100
                              I had a custom sprocket on my P200 and was planning similar for D390. Isnt 14t front sprocket also there in P220? If yes then I can easily get one for around 50bux. Powerwheelies should come naturally after that .
                              Street racing is for Squids trying to make up for their small equipment

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                              • #7650
                                Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Originally posted by riot View Post
                                I had a custom sprocket on my P200 and was planning similar for D390. Isnt 14t front sprocket also there in P220? If yes then I can easily get one for around 50bux. Powerwheelies should come naturally after that .
                                Yes the 220 also runs on 14t but the sprocket holder mechanism I don't know if that is a direct fit that is why I was saying go for the duke 200 front sprocket. If the sprocket on both are exactly the same then it should not be a problem as both use 520 chains.
                                Yes, power wheelies should be easily manageable after the mod.

                                Sent from my GT-I9100
                                Why 2wheels over 4.....
                                Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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