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  • Originally posted by Parth View Post
    I was planning to change the gearing of my r15. Its run about 3500kms, so the chain and both the sprockets are fairly new. I wish to get more top speed from her, and I'm ok with a little drop in acceleration as I have frequent highway runs.

    I've heard that changing the sprocket with 1 which has lesser no. of teeth is not good, although one may change to a sprocket which has a higher no. of teeth. Is this true?? I mean is there any advantages of increasing the no. of teeth of a sprocket as compared to reducing them?
    Based on the quoted info below, Unicorn front sprocket is straight fit to FZ. You can try the same for R15 if FZ and R15 front are the same. Max of 100rs.
    Yamaha YZF R15: Stock Setup: 14/42

    To overgear it, use rear sprocket, 40 teeth from Yamaha FZ 16. (Thanks anirudh_fz1)

    Yamaha FZ16: Stock Setup: 14/40

    To overgear it, use front sprocket, 15 teeth from Honda Unicorn. (Thanks iamvik)
    To undergear it, use rear sprocket, 42 teeth from Yamaha YZF R15. (Thanks anirudh_fz1)

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    • Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
      Based on the quoted info below, Unicorn front sprocket is straight fit to FZ. You can try the same for R15 if FZ and R15 front are the same. Max of 100rs.
      Yeah i too noticed that. Also, the cost of Rs100 is pleasant as I was expecting upwards of rs250 atleast.

      I wanted to clear some of my doubts about sprocketing.

      1. My bike comes with 14-42 stock setup, hence the chain would be made for this particular setup (I'm referring to the no. of links / length of the chain). Now since I'm altering the sprockets, would it have any adverse effects of the chain? I really don't want a busted chain on my new bike.

      2. My bike uses o-ring chain. I dont think that the unicorn uses an O-ring type chain. Would this cause any problems for the chain / sprocket?

      3. Can the authorised svc void the warranty on my bike if i change my front sprocket?? If yes, then which parts' warranty shall get void because of changed sprockets??

      4. This is not a sprocket related question but still :
      I've had to tighten my chain once as it got loose while running. this tightening was done at yamaha authorised svc only and the mech shifted a part on the end of the swing arm which was connected to the chain/sprocket and it had indentations which allowed it to get stuck to a metallic kink on the swingarm.
      My question is : Why does the chain get loose after running a certain number of kms? It is made of metal and is certainly not stretchable.....so how and why does it get loose ??

      5. Another theoretical question: My friend had to replace his entire chain on his R15 after around 30-40k kms, as it had become loose and there was no more room for it to be tightened. Now since the chain had become loose or in other words had gained in length, would using bigger sprockets enable the use of the same loosened chain again?
      A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel.

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      • Originally posted by Parth View Post
        Yeah i too noticed that. Also, the cost of Rs100 is pleasant as I was expecting upwards of rs250 atleast.

        I wanted to clear some of my doubts about sprocketing.

        1. My bike comes with 14-42 stock setup, hence the chain would be made for this particular setup (I'm referring to the no. of links / length of the chain). Now since I'm altering the sprockets, would it have any adverse effects of the chain? I really don't want a busted chain on my new bike.
        +/- 1 teeth wont require any mod with chain !!

        2. My bike uses o-ring chain. I dont think that the unicorn uses an O-ring type chain. Would this cause any problems for the chain / sprocket?
        No issues AFAIK

        3. Can the authorised svc void the warranty on my bike if i change my front sprocket?? If yes, then which parts' warranty shall get void because of changed sprockets??
        AFAIK they won't void warranty but I don't recommend you to do this mod in this early stage.

        4. This is not a sprocket related question but still :
        I've had to tighten my chain once as it got loose while running. this tightening was done at yamaha authorised svc only and the mech shifted a part on the end of the swing arm which was connected to the chain/sprocket and it had indentations which allowed it to get stuck to a metallic kink on the swingarm.
        My question is : Why does the chain get loose after running a certain number of kms? It is made of metal and is certainly not stretchable.....so how and why does it get loose ??
        Why does engine parts spoil ? Its a metal, right ? Its wear n tear part. And metals do stretch at heat. Moreover chain is not 1 single piece of metal, there are lot of joints which can wear out and hence create the expansion.

        5. Another theoretical question: My friend had to replace his entire chain on his R15 after around 30-40k kms, as it had become loose and there was no more room for it to be tightened. Now since the chain had become loose or in other words had gained in length, would using bigger sprockets enable the use of the same loosened chain again?
        NO. Thats the life span of chain. And why would you want to spend on bigger rear sprocket , in that case cutting a chain link will also solve your problem
        Answers in bold to my knowledge !!

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        • Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
          Answers in bold to my knowledge !!
          Thanks for the replies, specially to question 4 and 5
          A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel.

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          • guys i am in need of making my p150 ug3 gears taller for top end speed. I think stock setup is 15/44 , bike is 25K [2 yrs ] old in stock setup.

            1) Should i go for a whole new setup or just the front sprocket change?

            2) Which bikes sprocket set is a direct fit for tall gearing?

            3) i approched many mechs : local, castrol bike and bajaj service guys and these grease monkeys dont understand what i am asking for , they simply say u cannot do that, its impossilble and all the stuff, suggest me a good mech in HYD for this.
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            • Originally posted by pabi View Post
              guys i am in need of making my p150 ug3 gears taller for top end speed. I think stock setup is 15/44 , bike is 25K [2 yrs ] old in stock setup.

              1) Should i go for a whole new setup or just the front sprocket change?

              2) Which bikes sprocket set is a direct fit for tall gearing?

              3) i approched many mechs : local, castrol bike and bajaj service guys and these grease monkeys dont understand what i am asking for , they simply say u cannot do that, its impossilble and all the stuff, suggest me a good mech in HYD for this.
              1. Front Sprocket? Very rare bikes have 16 teeth front, ok? Maybe Rx135 has it, but it won't fit.

              2. P180 UG3's sprocket set, which is 15/43 is direct fit, but one teeth will hardly give you a difference.

              Also, check all generations of Pulsar. If any one gen. has a 42 teeth, but with 4 holes, it might fit.
              Older Pulsars mostly had 6 holes, which won't fit.

              Also, I strongly think that, the 42 teeth rear of Discover 125 (after March 2006) might fit... can't guarantee though.

              Try going into showrooms and try old sprockets to decide which ones fit. Old ones are lying around for free...

              3. Only Hyderabad users can help about this. I'm not from there, so sorry.
              Last edited by Samarth 619; 09-04-2010, 02:36 AM.
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              • Originally posted by Parth View Post
                I was planning to change the gearing of my r15. Its run about 3500kms, so the chain and both the sprockets are fairly new. I wish to get more top speed from her, and I'm ok with a little drop in acceleration as I have frequent highway runs.

                I've heard that changing the sprocket with 1 which has lesser no. of teeth is not good, although one may change to a sprocket which has a higher no. of teeth. Is this true?? I mean is there any advantages of increasing the no. of teeth of a sprocket as compared to reducing them?
                Sorry to quote myself, but can anyone answer this for me??
                A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel.

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                • Guys im interested in trying out a smaller rear sprocket for my FZ.stock is 40,is there any 39-38 sized sprocket that i can use with the FZ?

                  thank you
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                  • parth you could use.a bigger front sprocket

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                    • Originally posted by Parth View Post
                      Sorry to quote myself, but can anyone answer this for me??
                      Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
                      Guys im interested in trying out a smaller rear sprocket for my FZ.stock is 40,is there any 39-38 sized sprocket that i can use with the FZ?

                      thank you
                      use front sprocket of unicorn!!..15 teeth i guess!!

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                      • Originally posted by undercoverzafar View Post
                        use front sprocket of unicorn!!..15 teeth i guess!!
                        replace 40T with 15T? no thanks!
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                        • Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
                          replace 40T with 15T? no thanks!
                          40 Teeth is your rear sprocket man!! 14 teeth is your "Front or Gearbox Sprocket."

                          One end of chain is the rear sprocket. Front Sprocket located on the other end of the chain, the front side.

                          Currently, your FZ has 14 teeth in front sprocket. If its replaced with a 15 teeth one, you'll get more top speed.

                          I was planning to change the gearing of my r15. Its run about 3500kms, so the chain and both the sprockets are fairly new. I wish to get more top speed from her, and I'm ok with a little drop in acceleration as I have frequent highway runs.

                          I've heard that changing the sprocket with 1 which has lesser no. of teeth is not good, although one may change to a sprocket which has a higher no. of teeth. Is this true?? I mean is there any advantages of increasing the no. of teeth of a sprocket as compared to reducing them?
                          You've heard wrong. You can change sprocket with any number of teeth safely, as long as they modify gearing "slightly".

                          An approximate Safety rule for a stock bike is maximum 1 teeth change at front and 3 teeth change at rear.
                          See my first post for more on final gearing ratio.

                          If you do extreme over-gearing, it should be only after your bike produces more power than a stock bike. For example, a modified bike with K&N, after market silencer, etc.

                          As for your R15, Just get the FZ's rear sprocket 40T, and get it installed..
                          Last edited by Samarth 619; 09-06-2010, 02:15 AM.
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                          • Hi experts
                            I had a sprocketing query:
                            Stock teeth: 14/42
                            Change_1: 15/45 increase in both sprocket
                            Change_2: 13/38 decrease in both sprocket
                            How will it affect gearing? Any ways to increase both the top-end & accelaration, without screwing up any or both of them?

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                            • Originally posted by shaswata28 View Post
                              Hi experts
                              I had a sprocketing query:
                              Stock teeth: 14/42
                              Change_1: 15/45 increase in both sprocket
                              Change_2: 13/38 decrease in both sprocket
                              How will it affect gearing? Any ways to increase both the top-end & accelaration, without screwing up any or both of them?
                              you mean you want both that is impossible,In that case stick to stock sprocketing....
                              If you want top end then change front Sprocket to 15 teeth from 14teeth,rather changing rear one.
                              If you want acceleration then change the front with 13teeth from 14T
                              don't change rear in both case let it be stock.
                              Ride Safe & Ride Long-->
                              Zayn

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                              • Thanks Zayn. Will 1 teeth make any reasonable difference? Be it in Accelaration or Top end? & How much will it affect (adversely) the other?

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