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  • Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
    Guys, Let's start with the basic info.

    Gearing is a measure of all the components that determine the rate at which an engine's crankshaft's revolutions are transmitted, into the vehicle's speed. It comes from the word "gears" which are rotating cogs, which decide what speed the machine picks up, at a particular rpm.



    Sprocketing means changing the front & rear sprocket sizes to affect gearing. It's one of the simplest and easiest mods. The basic info says that:-->

    1. Bigger rear sprocket or smaller front sprocket, results in gearing biased towards acceleration, with some lag in top speed.
    2. Smaller rear sprocket or bigger front sprocket, results in gearing biased towards top speed, with some lag in acceleration.

    Gearing does NOT result in more or less power. It only affects how the power is laid, by changing the balance between top speed and acceleration. So, if one wants more top speed, and is prepared to lose acceleration a bit, or vice versa, then sprocketing is advisable.

    Taller gearing results in better mileage usually, and short gearing results in less mileage. This is due to the fact, that in longer gearing, the machine travels longer distance for a particular engine speed (rpm), and vice versa.

    Gearing maybe affected by: Sprockets' size change, rear tyre's size change, gearbox modification, clutch drag, etc.
    Gearing is NOT affected by: Weight/ load change (pillion, etc.), front tyre change, free flow air filters/ power mods, etc.

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    Change Measurement: Final Gearing Value: It is the gearing value that indicates contribution to overall gearing from both the sprockets. The sizes of front and rear sprocket, in the measure of teeth the sprockets have, determines the final gearing.

    Final gearing is for comparison between different sprocket combos.

    It is calculated by Rear Sprocket Teeth/ Front sprocket Teeth. Like Pulsar 180 UG4 has a 14 front and 39 rear setup. So, its stock final gearing is 39/14 which is equal to 2.785.

    Higher Final Gearing value signifies moving gearing towards acceleration (short gearing), and vice versa. So, when changing both sprockets from stock, the new gearing value should be calculated to determine which way you're going with gearing.


    Tyres: Rear Tyre change (size) affects overall gearing, if the profile (height) is affected due to this change. A higher profile increases gearing, while a lower profile decreases it.
    A tyre with size 120/70 has a normal height of (120mm x 70%) which is 84mm. But, the broadness of the tyre rim can change the "final height".

    A broader rim gives less tyre height, as tyre is rubber, and it expands over the broader rim. And of course, vice versa too.

    Front tyre size change doesn't affect gearing, although it may contribute to different ride height and different speeds on the speedometer.

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    Direct Fits:

    Apache RTR 160: Stock Setup: 13/44 teeth.

    To overgear it, use the 14 teeth front sprocket from Yamaha YZF R15/ Fiero F2. (Thanks Aparajith)

    Pulsar 220 DTS Fi (Old model): Stock setup: 14/37

    To undergear it, use:
    P200's rear sprocket, 38 teeth,
    Karizma's rear sprocket, 40 teeth, (Thanks Prafultripathy)

    Yamaha YZF R15: Stock Setup: 14/42

    To overgear it, use rear sprocket, 40 teeth from Yamaha FZ 16. (Thanks anirudh_fz1)

    Yamaha FZ16: Stock Setup: 14/40

    To overgear it, use front sprocket, 15 teeth from Honda Unicorn. (Thanks iamvik)
    To undergear it, use rear sprocket, 42 teeth from Yamaha YZF R15. (Thanks anirudh_fz1)

    Honda Shine 125: Stock Setup: 14/~

    To overgear it, use front sprocket, 15 teeth from Honda Unicorn. But, you'll have to shave off the sides of the sprocket so it matches the chain. (Bike India)

    Honda Unicorn 1st and 2nd Gen: Stock Setup: 15/42
    Honda Unicorn 3rd/4th onwards: Stock Setup: 15/43

    Direct Fits - With Chain pitch .428 (Unicorn Chain)
    Front 14T from Hero Honda Ambition/CBZ/Xtreme
    Rear 38T (Ambition)
    Rear 46T (CBZ Classic)

    With Chain Pitch .520 (Karizma chain)
    13T/40T of Karizma
    13T(ZMA)/38T(P200)

    Hero Honda Karizma: Stock Setup: 13/40

    Rear 38T of P200 (P200 chain length is not sufficient)

    (Thanks Shreeni)

    EDIT: This topic's incomplete. More material would be added on later. Please suggest improvements to the topic.
    -Samarth

    i have a Yamaha FZ16. Is the unicorn front 15T sprocket a direct fit to that of the FZ's. Please reply asap.

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    • Rtr

      has any1 changed the sprockets on their rtr 160??
      i'm having a hard time finding a fit... i need a 12-tooth front sprocket and 46+ on the rear...
      i know the effect, just lemme know if any1 knows of a fit, preferably something i can find in bangalore, if there isn't i'll just have to get it custom made

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      • i too wanna change the sprockets in my pulsar 150cc ug2(analog speedo one)...
        i want my bike to have a bit taller gearing(only a bit not go overboard loosing to much low end power)...
        which sprocket would you suggest guys??
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        want something new in my stable,.,.,d pulsar doesn't feed to my need for speed,.,.,.,
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        yamaha r15 (2010) - not riding it now
        pulsar 150 (2006)
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        • Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
          Based on the quoted info below, Unicorn front sprocket is straight fit to FZ. You can try the same for R15 if FZ and R15 front are the same. Max of 100rs.

          Hey buddy is the Unicorn FRONT 15T sprocket a direct fit to the FZ16. Please reply.

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          • Originally posted by freekoo View Post
            Hey buddy is the Unicorn FRONT 15T sprocket a direct fit to the FZ16. Please reply.
            Check your font size buddy
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            • Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
              Check your font size buddy
              Ya i know......anyway do you have any idea about my query....if you do please helpout.

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              • u ppl dint reply to nething....
                so i went for hit & trial method n i finally settled for the lml freedom rear sprocket with 40teeth(for the stock 44t on my pulsar 150)....
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                want something new in my stable,.,.,d pulsar doesn't feed to my need for speed,.,.,.,
                SOMETHING FAIRED
                yamaha r15 (2010) - not riding it now
                pulsar 150 (2006)
                yamaha rx100 (1993)<<still kicks a#$>>

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                • Originally posted by hotshot.vipin View Post
                  u ppl dint reply to nething....
                  so i went for hit & trial method n i finally settled for the lml freedom rear sprocket with 40teeth(for the stock 44t on my pulsar 150)....
                  how is the affect of it, did the bike lose too much low end or is it manageable. also post your reading rpm/speed .
                  Last edited by pabi; 10-13-2010, 05:14 PM.
                  on 4 wheels u feel the speed after a crash, 2 wheelers are much more advanced

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                  • Originally posted by hotshot.vipin View Post
                    u ppl dint reply to nething....
                    so i went for hit & trial method n i finally settled for the lml freedom rear sprocket with 40teeth(for the stock 44t on my pulsar 150)....
                    you mentioned yours is the UG2....is it the one with spoke wheels or alloys. i.e. wanted to know if you had a 4-type of 6-type sprocket.

                    was the lml one a direct fit? also did you just take out 4 chain links or use the lml chain or something else?

                    i am also looking to replace the rear sprocket of my pulsar 150 classic.

                    thanks in advance

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                    • Need some advice to changing sprockets on my zma with rear tyre - M. Sirac 120/80.

                      How feasible is the option of going with the P220 Fi's 14T/37T?

                      Based on this thread, the stock for Karizma is 13T/40T.

                      Or, if not for P220 Fi's sprockets, can I at use the stock sproket set of Karizma with the P220's chain. This way the O-ring seals will take care of dumping my chain cover?

                      Please pour your thoughts.

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                      • Hi Guys,I have a P200 and I need a 36 rear sprocket.....can any one tel me were can I Get It
                        X=need for more

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                        • Originally posted by shaswata28 View Post
                          Hi experts
                          I had a sprocketing query:
                          Stock teeth: 14/42
                          Change_1: 15/45 increase in both sprocket
                          Change_2: 13/38 decrease in both sprocket
                          How will it affect gearing? Any ways to increase both the top-end & accelaration, without screwing up any or both of them?
                          The best way to determine gearing (in various combinations) is calculating Final gearing ratios:-->

                          Stock Gearing Ratio: 42/14= 3

                          Change_1 Gearing Ratio: 45/15= 3 (no change to gearing)

                          Change_2 Gearing Ratio: 38/13= 2.923 (Little overgearing, more top end, bit less acceleration)

                          If you want both more acceleration and more top speed, than you should have more horsepower (bhp) from the engine. That's possible through performance modifications, like a good aftermarket silencer, K&N with rejetting, porting, etc. but gearing won't get more bhp's in any case.

                          Originally posted by shaswata28 View Post
                          Thanks Zayn. Will 1 teeth make any reasonable difference? Be it in Accelaration or Top end? & How much will it affect (adversely) the other?
                          1 teeth change at the front sprocket makes a reasonable difference...
                          1 teeth at rear sprocket will have very less difference...

                          In a 14/42 setup, 1 teeth at front will approximately change gearing as much as 3 teeth at rear...

                          Originally posted by nirav46 View Post
                          Hi Guys,I have a P200 and I need a 36 rear sprocket.....can any one tel me were can I Get It
                          The new P220 DTSi is the only bike I remember which has a 36 teeth rear setup... So, get it at the Bajaj PBK.

                          As far as I know, its a direct fit, but can't guarantee the same... You should try to fit it. Don't listen to mechanics if they say it doesn't fit.. Try and then see...
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                          • Guys, one more thing. I have updated the 1st Page with:

                            1. Front/ Gearbox Sprocket Pic in the 1st post,

                            2. Report on maintaining OPEN chain covers on Regular bikes, like P150/P180 ug3, (1st page, 7th post)

                            On the 1st page, see the 1st & 7th post: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...sprockets.html

                            You can suggest improvements to the topic here...
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                            Indian riding = Alertness, Anticipation and Adjustment.

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                            • Originally posted by commando87 View Post
                              has any1 changed the sprockets on their rtr 160??
                              i'm having a hard time finding a fit... i need a 12-tooth front sprocket and 46/47 on the rear...
                              i know the effect, just lemme know if any1 knows of a fit, preferably something i can find in bangalore, if there isn't i'll just have to get it custom made
                              No RTR owner with changed sprockets on this site??

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                              • PLZ suggest ideal sprocket upgrade for yamaha R15 . Priorities
                                1. Top Speed + Low end(acceleration
                                2. Low end
                                And what would be more ideal bcause i mostly ride in city occasional go to highways or long stretches but still wanna enjoy the ride of bike even after sprocketing it.....pls advice...
                                Fun begins only after 6K rpm.....!

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