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  • #766
    Precisely. Spot on. All one needs to worry is not to have the same kind of play in the rear. And not to forget it's help in reducing the lengthening of the chain.

    Cheers!
    VJ

    Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
    Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 04-16-2013, 10:51 PM.
    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
    The girl said, 'NO!'


    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


    THE END

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    • #767
      Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
      The play in the front sprocket is there so that when the rear suspension moves up-down it can be a bit uneven on two sides , thus moving the rear sprocket sideways . The slack in the front sprocket allows it to adjust to the sideways movement of the rear , yet maintain alignment of the chain drive straight .
      Thanks for the perfect explanation! I was really worried that day & was scared to ride thinking what if the front sprocket come loose etc etc. Glad to hear that there is nothing to worry
      Ride hard.. Ride safe.. Always!

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      • #768
        Guys, guys.. Front sprocket on my bike doesn't had/have any huge play (like Adarsh's 1-2mm) mine had negligible play. Its so less that even if I rock it in front of anyone, he will not see any movements but I can feel the play. Its even lesser than rocker arms!! Should, I worry??
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        • #769
          Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post
          Guys, guys.. Front sprocket on my bike doesn't had/have any huge play (like Adarsh's 1-2mm) mine had negligible play. Its so less that even if I rock it in front of anyone, he will not see any movements but I can feel the play. Its even lesser than rocker arms!! Should, I worry??
          Absolutely no. As I've stated earlier the play differs from bike to bike. Just make sure your chain slack is adjusted properly periodically.

          One of the reasons that play is present is to prevent chain elongation at heavy load and suspension play.

          Cheers!
          VJ



          Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
          The girl said, 'NO!'


          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


          THE END

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          • #770
            Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
            Please go back a few pages I've mentioned something as gearing commander. Use it. It's impossible to get every detail for every bike out there.

            Cheers!
            VJ

            Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
            ThanksVJ. I've gone through the gearing commander ad nauseam. What I really need is some info of which sprockets made for other bikes will work for my Impulse - that the gearing commander does not do. So, once we figure put the sprockets, what next? Where do we get the replacements?

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            • #771
              Originally posted by crvlvr View Post
              ThanksVJ. I've gone through the gearing commander ad nauseam. What I really need is some info of which sprockets made for other bikes will work for my Impulse - that the gearing commander does not do. So, once we figure put the sprockets, what next? Where do we get the replacements?
              Obviously from SVC. But I'd tell you to find yours at local shops as they are patient enough to show you the sprocket they have. That way you can check all the available sprockets avlbl. I do the same.

              Cheers!
              VJ

              Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
              The girl said, 'NO!'


              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


              THE END

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              • #772
                Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                Obviously from SVC. But I'd tell you to find yours at local shops as they are patient enough to show you the sprocket they have. That way you can check all the available sprockets avlbl. I do the same.
                What will be really helpful, since this is the "world of sprockets" thread, is that we begin to compile list of sprockets by bike model. For example, for Impulse it would be :

                Bike Model Capacity Top gear speed at 4K rpm Fr. sprocket Rear sprocket Chain Type
                Impulse 150cc 52 18 50 #428

                this will really help understand how tall or short one's bike is geared and which sprockets MAY be a replacement choice. Of course, the database could be expanded to include mounting bolt pattern etc. I am not very well versed with that.

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                • #773
                  Impulse is only Indian bike with huge sprockets.. So its kinda difficult to suggest anything being a non owner/rider.. Most other Indian bikes have rear sprocket size of 43-44 teeth by max. And max size of front sprocket is 15-16T. These may make your bike too tall. But you can try them.. Other alternative can be changing the whole drive chain set to of other bike (of course having same mounting points) or get yourself a fabricated one. Happy sprocketing
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                  • #774
                    Originally posted by crvlvr View Post
                    What will be really helpful, since this is the "world of sprockets" thread, is that we begin to compile list of sprockets by bike model. For example, for Impulse it would be :

                    Bike Model Capacity Top gear speed at 4K rpm Fr. sprocket Rear sprocket Chain Type
                    Impulse 150cc 52 18 50 #428

                    this will really help understand how tall or short one's bike is geared and which sprockets MAY be a replacement choice. Of course, the database could be expanded to include mounting bolt pattern etc. I am not very well versed with that.
                    Thought you are right about the database. I mean come on, its not ' possible for one to compile the entire database, but it doesn't mean it can't. If everyone who has a new model just posts the basic details of their sprocket setup that'd be a wise idea.

                    But going by what you've said, try adding the same in GC so the database stays there forever.

                    Cheers!
                    VJ

                    Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
                    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                    The girl said, 'NO!'


                    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                    THE END

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                    • #775
                      Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                      The play in the front sprocket is there so that when the rear suspension moves up-down it can be a bit uneven on two sides , thus moving the rear sprocket sideways . The slack in the front sprocket allows it to adjust to the sideways movement of the rear , yet maintain alignment of the chain drive straight .
                      Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                      That play is a must because of transmission power differences. Some have and some don't. But it's not something to worry about. Cheers! VJ Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
                      Checked the sprocket it didn't have any play, so I took the hammer from toolbox & banged the sprocket hard. Now it has got some play 😁 . On topic: Has anybody fliped & used their sprocket.

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                      • #776
                        Originally posted by Traveller01 View Post
                        Checked the sprocket it didn't have any play, so I took the hammer from toolbox & banged the sprocket hard. Now it has got some play  . On topic: Has anybody fliped & used their sprocket.
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                        Didnt you read these posts too??

                        Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post
                        Guys, guys.. Front sprocket on my bike doesn't had/have any huge play (like Adarsh's 1-2mm) mine had negligible play. Its so less that even if I rock it in front of anyone, he will not see any movements but I can feel the play. Its even lesser than rocker arms!! Should, I worry??

                        Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                        Absolutely no. As I've stated earlier the play differs from bike to bike. Just make sure your chain slack is adjusted properly periodically.

                        One of the reasons that play is present is to prevent chain elongation at heavy load and suspension play.

                        Cheers!
                        VJ
                        Ride hard.. Ride safe.. Always!

                        S1000RR ownership experience

                        You can also follow me on YouTube here

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                        • #777
                          Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post
                          [ATTACH=CONFIG]99087[/ATTACH]Didnt you read these posts too??
                          Yes. Didn't you read my post I never mentioned I did it on my bike.

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                          • #778
                            Originally posted by Traveller01 View Post
                            Checked the sprocket it didn't have any play, so I took the hammer from toolbox & banged the sprocket hard. Now it has got some play  . On topic: Has anybody fliped & used their sprocket.
                            You can and even some people do that, but most don't do as it can't be done in some bikes. But you need to keep two things in mind when you do that, the level of wear and how it's worn (the pattern). Usually the sprocket makes the bike run forward and normally metal fatigue is always on the side of the rotation of the bike.

                            Now if you flip the sprocket, say for example your sprocket is worn so bad and it's sharp as needle, you flip the sprocket, and the tooth due to sudden fatigue on it's opposite side, will break the teeth which will then ruin your drive train if those bits and pieces get lodged somewhere.

                            I'd suggest you change sprocket and chain as a set, and lube them properly and adjust the slack at the correct interval for longevity of the chain.

                            Cheers!
                            VJ
                            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                            The girl said, 'NO!'


                            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                            THE END

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                            • #779
                              Originally posted by Traveller01 View Post
                              Yes. Didn't you read my post I never mentioned I did it on my bike.
                              Dude, just use some smilies so that we know it is a joke

                              @B7ACKTHORN : Any reason why the sprockets teeth are shaped differently on either sides? One side has a slope & other is flat. But chain links are exactly same both sides.
                              Last edited by Adarsh_Bk; 04-19-2013, 08:16 PM.
                              Ride hard.. Ride safe.. Always!

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                              You can also follow me on YouTube here

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                              • #780
                                Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                                You can and even some people do that, but most don't do as it can't be done in some bikes. But you need to keep two things in mind when you do that, the level of wear and how it's worn (the pattern). Usually the sprocket makes the bike run forward and normally metal fatigue is always on the side of the rotation of the bike. Now if you flip the sprocket, say for example your sprocket is worn so bad and it's sharp as needle, you flip the sprocket, and the tooth due to sudden fatigue on it's opposite side, will break the teeth which will then ruin your drive train if those bits and pieces get lodged somewhere. I'd suggest you change sprocket and chain as a set, and lube them properly and adjust the slack at the correct interval for longevity of the chain. Cheers! VJ
                                actually I have done it myself & its running fine for last few thousand km, had mentioned it some other thread.
                                Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post
                                Dude, just use some smilies so that we know it is a joke .
                                The smilie I used came out as unreadable in the final post, Now you can remove your hand from your head :-D

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