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  • #691
    Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
    More top end! :P The bike is short geared in the first place, now after being Joel'ed, I'm sure it's capable of a few more kmph.

    I was considering the Karizma rear or the Unicorn front. Both would be overkill in my opinion. :P

    Then go for a smaller rear sprocket, which will make the top end a little low, improved mid range and good top end, but the bike will tend to accelerate a tad slower, but with the bhp increase it shouldn't even be a noticeable difference, you will feel the acceleration as it is with the stock with improved top end. I would suggest you stick with the stock front and upgrade to the Karizma's rear sprocket.

    But I'd personally suggest you go for the Karizma, it should be a better option considering the overgearing and undergearing of the bike.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 02-25-2013, 01:44 AM.
    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
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    • #692
      Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
      Then go for a smaller rear sprocket, which will make the top end a little low, improved mid range and good top end, but the bike will tend to accelerate a tad slower, but with the bhp increase it shouldn't even be a noticeable difference, you will feel the acceleration as it is with the stock with improved top end. I would suggest you stick with the stock front and upgrade to the Karizma's rear sprocket.

      But I'd personally suggest you go for the Karizma, it should be a better option considering the overgearing and undergearing of the bike.

      Cheers!
      VJ
      But are Karizma sprockets available separately? Straight fit if I remember correctly?
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      • #693
        Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
        But are Karizma sprockets available separately? Straight fit if I remember correctly?
        Yes Karizma's sprockets are available separately. Fit wise, I have no idea, but I guess take a look at the bolt sequence of your bike, it should give you an idea as to the fit, pretty basic.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
        The girl said, 'NO!'


        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


        THE END

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        • #694
          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
          Yes Karizma's sprockets are available separately. Fit wise, I have no idea, but I guess take a look at the bolt sequence of your bike, it should give you an idea as to the fit, pretty basic.

          Cheers!
          VJ
          I'm going to make this a little complicated for you. :P

          Even before the power bump, I found the bike too short geared. :P I would rather have the bike be a little more tame at the low end. How would be a combination of a Unicorn 15T front and a Karizma 40T rear affect the distribution of power over the rev range?
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          • #695
            Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
            I'm going to make this a little complicated for you. :P

            Even before the power bump, I found the bike too short geared. :P I would rather have the bike be a little more tame at the low end. How would be a combination of a Unicorn 15T front and a Karizma 40T rear affect the distribution of power over the rev range?
            That would be excellent, but the pitch size spoils the day!

            Unicorn sprockets is for chains with .428 and ZMA sprockets for .520.

            And ZMA sprocket doesnt fit on the Unicorn. Its too HUGE!!



            And I can make this even more interesting......

            15T in front and Ambition 38T at the back. 1st gear on speed bumps, but top end is sooooooooooo relaxed. Just don't go up the mountains. You could be competing with bicyclers.


            Prajwal
            Last edited by prajwalkashyap; 02-25-2013, 11:20 PM.
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            • #696
              Originally posted by prajwalkashyap View Post
              That would be excellent, but the pitch size spoils the day!

              Unicorn sprockets is for chains with .428 and ZMA sprockets for .520.

              And ZMA sprocket doesnt fit on the Unicorn. Its too HUGE!!



              And I can make this even more interesting......

              15T in front and Ambition 38T at the back. 1st gear on speed bumps, but top end is sooooooooooo relaxed. Just don't go up the mountains. You could be competing with bicyclers.


              Prajwal
              Thanks for clearing the air Prajwal. And Prajwal is absolutely right, I didn't take the pitch into consideration. And terminator, can you please confirm what is the pitch of your bike's chain, I guess it's .428? If it is then, I don't think you can use the sprocket. But if the chain is .520 pitch then it'd be a little huge. When a pitch is huge, it makes the difference between the chain in the sprocket or getting over thrown.

              Please let us know the pitch if you can.

              Cheers!
              VJ
              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
              The girl said, 'NO!'


              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


              THE END

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              • #697
                Originally posted by prajwalkashyap View Post
                1st gear on speed bumps, but top end is sooooooooooo relaxed. Just don't go up the mountains. You could be competing with bicyclers.


                Prajwal
                Does the same goes on Pulsar 220 with Duke's Sprocket Set ?
                Both Front & rear With Chain. !
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                • #698
                  Originally posted by Sird View Post
                  Does the same goes on Pulsar 220 with Duke's Sprocket Set ?
                  Both Front & rear With Chain. !
                  Yes Duke's sprocket can be used for for 220, because the and the same sprocket can be used to overgear a Duke.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                  The girl said, 'NO!'


                  And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                  THE END

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                  • #699
                    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                    Yes Duke's sprocket can be used for for 220, because the and the same sprocket can be used to overgear a Duke.

                    Cheers!
                    VJ
                    Yes we had discussed it.
                    I remember bro.
                    But the line
                    Just don't go up the mountains. You could be competing with bicyclers.

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                    • #700
                      Originally posted by prajwalkashyap View Post
                      That would be excellent, but the pitch size spoils the day!

                      Unicorn sprockets is for chains with .428 and ZMA sprockets for .520.

                      And I can make this even more interesting......

                      15T in front and Ambition 38T at the back. 1st gear on speed bumps, but top end is sooooooooooo relaxed. Just don't go up the mountains. You could be competing with bicyclers.

                      Prajwal
                      Damn. :P So I guess Unicorn front sprocket is preferred. 38T at the back is way too low I think. Only the rear might work, yes? :P

                      Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                      Thanks for clearing the air Prajwal. And Prajwal is absolutely right, I didn't take the pitch into consideration. And terminator, can you please confirm what is the pitch of your bike's chain, I guess it's .428? If it is then, I don't think you can use the sprocket. But if the chain is .520 pitch then it'd be a little huge. When a pitch is huge, it makes the difference between the chain in the sprocket or getting over thrown.

                      Please let us know the pitch if you can.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Pitch must be .428 I guess. Not sure. I'm not risking a chain getting thrown off akin to how it used to happen in a cycle. :P
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                      • #701
                        Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
                        Pitch must be .428 I guess. Not sure. I'm not risking a chain getting thrown off akin to how it used to happen in a cycle. :P
                        Tell you what, first use the current sprocket to it's end of life, and then switch to a custom one. I'd say it save time money and energy.

                        Cheers!
                        VJ
                        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                        The girl said, 'NO!'


                        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                        THE END

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                        • #702
                          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                          Tell you what, first use the current sprocket to it's end of life, and then switch to a custom one. I'd say it save time money and energy.

                          Cheers!
                          VJ
                          That's the point. 18k km done. :P Time to change the chain sprocket according to the guys at the service center. :P
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                          • #703
                            Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
                            That's the point. 18k km done. :P Time to change the chain sprocket according to the guys at the service center. :P
                            Huh? Sprocket change at 18K? That's just half way in its life. It should last at least 30K, and about 40K if you maintain it well and if its with a chain cover. Reduce about 5K if its an open chain cover.

                            Guys at the service centre will like you though.

                            Prajwal
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                            • #704
                              Originally posted by prajwalkashyap View Post
                              Huh? Sprocket change at 18K? That's just half way in its life. It should last at least 30K, and about 40K if you maintain it well and if its with a chain cover. Reduce about 5K if its an open chain cover.

                              Guys at the service centre will like you though.

                              Prajwal
                              Nope, 30K for a sprocket is impossible! At least a max that a sprocket can touch is 20 to 25k. 30k is impossible. Yes there are lots of vehicles running even more beyond that, but they have no idea what's making them run or what's the condition of the thing that's making the thing run.

                              Yes there are one offs, but definitely a life of 20k can be used as a thumb rule. Not 30k, I've seen many of my friends bikes change very early starting on 15k onwards, very new bikes including Hondas.

                              Cheers!
                              VJ
                              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                              The girl said, 'NO!'


                              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                              THE END

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                              • #705
                                Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                                Nope, 30K for a sprocket is impossible! At least a max that a sprocket can touch is 20 to 25k. 30k is impossible. Yes there are lots of vehicles running even more beyond that, but they have no idea what's making them run or what's the condition of the thing that's making the thing run.

                                Yes there are one offs, but definitely a life of 20k can be used as a thumb rule. Not 30k, I've seen many of my friends bikes change very early starting on 15k onwards, very new bikes including Hondas.

                                Cheers!
                                VJ
                                I will beg to differ. A well maintained chain/sprocket will last much beyond 30K kms. And I am speaking of Indian conditions. I changed mine at 38K. It still had some life. I had it inspected by a few mechs as well and they were quite surprised. My Unicorn is a closed chain cover. My splendor chain/sprocket lasted for well over 45K. By 48K it was well worn, and I decided to change.

                                "Impossible" is too harsh a word to use so loosely my friend. Perhaps you haven't seen an example yet. I do hope to show and change your fixed mind someday.

                                Prajwal
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