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**krixna** · 01-16-2016, 04:50 PM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by paradoxr9019 View Post

Thanks for your response but I heard that the 200 ns's chain is not .520 pitch and its .420. Let's assume that the 200 ns rear sprocket fits my d200s wheel can I still use the same front sprocket?? And the same chain?? Confused

NS uses 520 (I own it, changed rear sprocket to P220's 36T, with some mod work on the 4-hole P220 sprocket to make it 6-hole to suit NS. You can use the same D200 front sprocket, and the new (P180 ug4 is 39T I guess, or use the NS 39T) reduction in size will leave you with around 2 inches chain length to tighten.

**dude_creative** · 01-16-2016, 09:12 PM

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Guys, Has anyone reduced Twister rear sprocket from 42t to something lesser. If so which bike sprocket would fit?

**paradoxr9019** · 01-18-2016, 01:16 AM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by krixna View Post

with some mod work on the 4-hole P220 sprocket to make it 6-hole to suit NS. You can use the same D200 front sprocket, and the new (P180 ug4 is 39T I guess, or use the NS 39T) reduction in size will leave you with around 2 inches chain length to tighten.

[MENTION=74543]krixna[/MENTION] .. I really appreciate your input in this..

can you tell me what mod you did to fit the four hole sprocket on to a six point mounting system? I saw your video on YouTube but I didn't get it.. Can you give me details???

My plan is turning out to be costly because I thought of purchasing the rear alloy of the 2013 duke with 4 mount points, hub and the rubber spacers so that I can go for 180 ug 4 rear sprocket or the 40t from karizma. If your work around is reliable, then I can go for it..

Also do you feel any difference in day to day commute with your sprocketed bike?
Since its focused on top end performance? Looking forward to your response...

Rakesh

**krixna** · 01-18-2016, 03:49 PM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by paradoxr9019 View Post

[MENTION=74543]krixna[/MENTION] .. I really appreciate your input in this..

can you tell me what mod you did to fit the four hole sprocket on to a six point mounting system? I saw your video on YouTube but I didn't get it.. Can you give me details???

My plan is turning out to be costly because I thought of purchasing the rear alloy of the 2013 duke with 4 mount points, hub and the rubber spacers so that I can go for 180 ug 4 rear sprocket or the 40t from karizma. If your work around is reliable, then I can go for it..

Also do you feel any difference in day to day commute with your sprocketed bike?
Since its focused on top end performance? Looking forward to your response...

Rakesh

First check if the NS 6-hole 39T sprocket suits. Using P220's 36T is not recommended. Reducing from 43T to 36T is too much. After I reduced from 39 to 36, I now have the engine at 5000rpm @ 75kmph in 6th gear. Very relaxed cruising.

**paradoxr9019** · 01-19-2016, 10:16 AM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by krixna View Post

First check if the NS 6-hole 39T sprocket suits. Using P220's 36T is not recommended. Reducing from 43T to 36T is too much. After I reduced from 39 to 36, I now have the engine at 5000rpm @ 75kmph in 6th gear. Very relaxed cruising.

Yes.. I have asked the KTM service guys to check and tell me if the current hub of the duke would support the 200NSs sprocket.
Have to visit them personally to check the same. As the response is not so great over phone.
My current sprocket is 42t since mine is a 2015 model duke 200 and i am planning on reducing to 39T max.. Not going more than that.. because I don't think there will be much power available at low rpm range. You said that you went to from 39t to 36t right!! Do you have enough torque in the lower end of the Rev range ??? Can you easily ride in city conditions with this setup? Also how many chain links you cut? Because I might also be cutting that number of links since I am also going 3 teeth less at the rear

**krixna** · 01-19-2016, 11:25 AM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by paradoxr9019 View Post

Yes.. I have asked the KTM service guys to check and tell me if the current hub of the duke would support the 200NSs sprocket.
Have to visit them personally to check the same. As the response is not so great over phone.
My current sprocket is 42t since mine is a 2015 model duke 200 and i am planning on reducing to 39T max.. Not going more than that.. because I don't think there will be much power available at low rpm range. You said that you went to from 39t to 36t right!! Do you have enough torque in the lower end of the Rev range ??? Can you easily ride in city conditions with this setup? Also how many chain links you cut? Because I might also be cutting that number of links since I am also going 3 teeth less at the rear

Torque or power of the engine does not change, right? You are just changing the way it is transmitted to the rear wheel. You will have to use one gear lower, that's all. For speeds which you did in 3rd, you'll now have to use 2nd. The difference is noticeable in the gears at both end. You'll miss the sudden pickup in 1st, you'll cruise smoother in 6th. Hope that clears your doubt.

I didn't cut links. Just tightened. 3 steps left in the adjuster now.

**paradoxr9019** · 01-20-2016, 12:56 AM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by krixna View Post

Torque or power of the engine does not change, right? You are just changing the way it is transmitted to the rear wheel. You will have to use one gear lower, that's all. For speeds which you did in 3rd, you'll now have to use 2nd. The difference is noticeable in the gears at both end. You'll miss the sudden pickup in 1st, you'll cruise smoother in 6th. Hope that clears your doubt.

I didn't cut links. Just tightened. 3 steps left in the adjuster now.

Torque and power of the engine doesn't change but the way it distributes does. Well.. The KTM and NS both develop their peak torques somewhere around 8k rpm.. Since we are more focussed towards the top end, will the engine be lugging at 1.5k to 3k rpm?? Because the power delivery up till 4k rpm is choppy. The bike will jerk.. As it's fuel injected. Does your bike behave like that in that rev range as well??

**krixna** · 01-20-2016, 01:57 AM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by paradoxr9019 View Post

Torque and power of the engine doesn't change but the way it distributes does. Well.. The KTM and NS both develop their peak torques somewhere around 8k rpm.. Since we are more focussed towards the top end, will the engine be lugging at 1.5k to 3k rpm?? Because the power delivery up till 4k rpm is choppy. The bike will jerk.. As it's fuel injected. Does your bike behave like that in that rev range as well??

The engine will continue to do what it was doing earlier. The change in power delivery will be like you removed the first gear and added a seventh. Your new gearing will be 234567 with respect to old ratios (not exactly, just saying). But jerking, yes. It does jerk below 3.5K rpm in 6th for me. Having said that, the bike doesn't jerk at 2.5K rpm in third and 2K rpm in 1st and 2nd. So jerking is also related to which gear you are in. So for slow city riding in traffic, use the first 3 gears (new setup) and you'll be fine. For faster riding, I keep it above 4K rpms whichever gear I'm in, and get no jerking at all.

**paradoxr9019** · 01-20-2016, 10:45 AM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by krixna View Post

The engine will continue to do what it was doing earlier. The change in power delivery will be like you removed the first gear and added a seventh. Your new gearing will be 234567 with respect to old ratios (not exactly, just saying). But jerking, yes. It does jerk below 3.5K rpm in 6th for me. Having said that, the bike doesn't jerk at 2.5K rpm in third and 2K rpm in 1st and 2nd. So jerking is also related to which gear you are in. So for slow city riding in traffic, use the first 3 gears (new setup) and you'll be fine. For faster riding, I keep it above 4K rpms whichever gear I'm in, and get no jerking at all.

Prompt as always

Fingers crossed.. Still hunting for an alternative. I asked the guys from Irevs for the 39t custom sprocket and they quoted 4800 rupees for a piece. (Which I feel to be very high for just the rear sprocket). Will be going to the ASC to check about the mods. Will update on the progress..

I Really appreciate the inputs so far..

**krixna** · 01-20-2016, 05:58 PM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by paradoxr9019 View Post

Prompt as always

Fingers crossed.. Still hunting for an alternative. I asked the guys from Irevs for the 39t custom sprocket and they quoted 4800 rupees for a piece. (Which I feel to be very high for just the rear sprocket). Will be going to the ASC to check about the mods. Will update on the progress..

I Really appreciate the inputs so far..

I contacted Irevz for a 15T front sprocket, as that was my earlier plan. They quoted 2000/-. So I switched to the 39-36 plan and bought the whole P220 original set for 1200/-. The chain-sprocket set of NS also costs around that.

You can remove the rear sprockets of NS and D200, keep one over the other and check the holes. Find a friend with NS for the purpose.

**paradoxr9019** · 01-21-2016, 03:06 AM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by krixna View Post

I contacted Irevz for a 15T front sprocket, as that was my earlier plan. They quoted 2000/-. So I switched to the 39-36 plan and bought the whole P220 original set for 1200/-. The chain-sprocket set of NS also costs around that.

You can remove the rear sprockets of NS and D200, keep one over the other and check the holes. Find a friend with NS for the purpose.

Very good idea..

Anyways will be going to pudhupet here at Chennai to find out if I can get a hold of older alloys and sprockets.. Let's see how it works out..

**krixna** · 01-21-2016, 04:55 PM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by paradoxr9019 View Post

Very good idea..

Anyways will be going to pudhupet here at Chennai to find out if I can get a hold of older alloys and sprockets.. Let's see how it works out..

Lock your bike and secure it to some electric post using chain and lock if you park the bike in Pudhupet

**paradoxr9019** · 01-22-2016, 04:49 AM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by krixna View Post

Lock your bike and secure it to some electric post using chain and lock if you park the bike in Pudhupet

I hear what you're trying to say

will be staying near by my bike

**SAMPATH_K** · 01-27-2016, 01:02 PM

Re: Help needed in sprocketing the duke 200 2015 model with 6 mount points

Originally posted by paradoxr9019 View Post

Yes.. I have asked the KTM service guys to check and tell me if the current hub of the duke would support the 200NSs sprocket.
Have to visit them personally to check the same. As the response is not so great over phone.
My current sprocket is 42t since mine is a 2015 model duke 200 and i am planning on reducing to 39T max.. Not going more than that.. because I don't think there will be much power available at low rpm range. You said that you went to from 39t to 36t right!! Do you have enough torque in the lower end of the Rev range ??? Can you easily ride in city conditions with this setup? Also how many chain links you cut? Because I might also be cutting that number of links since I am also going 3 teeth less at the rear

I have the 39T from Pulsar UG4 and i like the ride now.The pickup and ingear acceleration certainly not as maniacal as the original setup,but its no slouch either.You still should be able to pull ahead of the other bikes in the segment due to slightly lengthier gearing post the 39 set up.Highway riding is the major plus of this set up.Cruising at 110-120kmph is now a breeze with a relaxed engine.

But i feel 40T(ZMA) is the best setup without compromising on the core characteristic of the D200.I still love the 39T.

**bobisbacktorock** · 01-28-2016, 01:37 PM

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[MENTION=24386]Samarth[/MENTION]

Hello

I own a Fazer V2.0. I am planning to slightly overgear it for better highway punch with lesser engine stress.

Background Research : fzv2.0 - 14 / 41 Sprockets

Available options : Either Unicorn's 15T at front (or) Fz v1's 40T at rear.

Which one is better and will fetch more results ??

My knowledge ways changing the front one should return more results as its RPM is much more than the rear one, there by multiplying the results.

Please Suggest.

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