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  • ^The apache 150 and Fiero piston is the same.
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    • Thanks Joel

      But what about my other query

      Will the block of Apache 150 be compatible with Fiero's head & the disc part.

      Awaiting your kind reply. I had also sent you a PM,couple of days back,can you please respond to it.

      Vishal
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      • ^The Fiero and the Fiero f2/Fx have different lower fork tubes. You will need to source the lower tube from an old Fiero somehow, else it wont work. Rest is all the same. You will need to figure out stuff on your own coz all the OE parts for the Fiero disc kit are not available anymore.

        YOu cant change the head alone to that of the apache 150, unless you change the cam, rocker arms etc. However remember you aint gonna find any difference coz the valve sizes are same and you get very tiny improvements courtesy the camshaft's extra lift. Its well not worth the money spent however.
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        • Thanks for the reply sire & the valuable advice.

          Will stick to the OE Fiero engine spares.

          Will change the lower forks to that of F2/FX & the rest shock parts of Fiero & disc kit of FX.

          Thanks once again.

          Vishal
          Id rather be on my motorcycle and think about God than be in temple and think about my motorcycle!!

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          • OK. All the necessary parts to change the front brake to disc brake have been sought.

            My only concern here is should I put disc on the right hand side or the left side as it comes standard in F2 & FX.

            Awaiting your kind replies.


            Vishal
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            • since its an option for you then go for what you like.
              an apache's 150 lower forks would give u the disk on the right side, while a fiero f2/fx ones would give u the disk on the left side.
              however the braking would be exactly the same.

              if u ask me i would say left coz very very few bikes have disk on the left side.

              i own a fiero f2 and ppl have said that my disk is on the wrong side, its just a bit different but i personally like the left side funda.
              Giving a lot to a fiero.
              Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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              • 50K kms.Service completed...

                Got the 50K kms.service done for my Fiero F2. Total cost Rs.3300.
                Major parts replaced: Front disc plate, disc pads, disc oil, rear drum liners, sprocket rubber, engine oil TVS Tru4 1100ml.with 50 ml.Bardahl additive.
                Minor parts replaced: Kickstarter rubber, extra brake rubber, gear lever rubber, oil filter, some nuts etc.
                Other work carried out: Wheel rim throughing, alignment, fork&shocker setting, fork oil refilled, body nuts&dome bolts tightened.

                Bike feels like new to ride now, almost like what it was when it was new. Felt like buying the Amaron MF battery as the current Amco is dying out, but I will get it in a few days...

                However, I have a few observations&questions:
                1. The fully synthetic Petronas engine oil was very less in quantity when drained out. There is no sign of leakage-engine gasket seals are in place, no white smoke so piston rings are also appearing fine. What could be the reason for this?

                2. Another thing is there was some clattering noise, which I assumed was the tappets, however the mechanic made it silent by adjusting the cam chain tightness from the outside itself. My doubt is: Don't the tappets/valve clearances need to be adjusted? Or is the mechanic shying away from it?

                Been using the bike last 3 days (almost forgot I even own an R15), had a short highway run too-the old flame is reignited!

                Many thanks to Old Fox Sir for helping me out in understanding how to get the problems fixed&which parts to replace.
                Last edited by Sarvajit; 11-02-2009, 01:01 PM.
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                • Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
                  OK. All the necessary parts to change the front brake to disc brake have been sought.

                  My only concern here is should I put disc on the right hand side or the left side as it comes standard in F2 & FX.

                  Awaiting your kind replies.


                  Vishal
                  The left side disc caliper pads are hard to source these days. The right side caliper of the same type as the Fiero/F2 came only on the Victor 125 GLX and that is history now, so dont use that. If you go for the right side disc set-up, use the Apache 150s caliper. Pads are same as RTR and available easily. Braking is also better. Also upgrade to the Apache's disc plate as it has better hardness and braking is more sure-footed unlike the spongy feel of the Fiero/F2.
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                  • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                    The left side disc caliper pads are hard to source these days. The right side caliper of the same type as the Fiero/F2 came only on the Victor 125 GLX and that is history now, so dont use that. If you go for the right side disc set-up, use the Apache 150s caliper. Pads are same as RTR and available easily. Braking is also better. Also upgrade to the Apache's disc plate as it has better hardness and braking is more sure-footed unlike the spongy feel of the Fiero/F2.
                    Sorry for asking so many questions,But can I put Apache's disc on a spoked wheel,since it comes with a mag wheel & is the disc housing different from a spoked one?

                    Vishal
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                    • Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
                      Sorry for asking so many questions,But can I put Apache's disc on a spoked wheel,since it comes with a mag wheel & is the disc housing different from a spoked one?

                      Vishal
                      Yes, the disc is the same as the Fiero. You will need to mount the disc on the adpater plate which hold it against the wheel hub.
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                      • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                        Yes, the disc is the same as the Fiero. You will need to mount the disc on the adpater plate which hold it against the wheel hub.
                        Thanks for the quick reply.

                        So what I have understood from the whole conversation is,
                        • F2/Fx lower forks
                        • Fiero OE upper forks
                        • Apache's disc
                        • Apache's calipers(which means the master cylinder & etc etc)
                        • F2/Fx front wheel hub
                        • F2/Fx front wheel bearing
                        This is all what I remember we need to change. Is there anything that I am missing out,then kindly let me know.

                        Thanks in advance.

                        Vishal
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                        • Yesterday I spoke to the dealer from whom I get my Fiero parts & he told me that the Apaceh disc is cheaper than FX disc because it is manufactured locally.

                          So now I am again in a dilema dont know which disc to use? Can I use the RTR disc? Obviously it is bigger than the FX disc. FX disc is 240mm while RTR is 270mm. Will there be any weight issues & is it adviseable?



                          Vishal
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                          • Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
                            Yesterday I spoke to the dealer from whom I get my Fiero parts & he told me that the Apaceh disc is cheaper than FX disc because it is manufactured locally.

                            So now I am again in a dilema dont know which disc to use? Can I use the RTR disc? Obviously it is bigger than the FX disc. FX disc is 240mm while RTR is 270mm. Will there be any weight issues & is it adviseable?



                            Vishal
                            I recently saw an owner getting the Apache disc onto his Fiero. If the job is done correctly, it will work well. I went in for the original Fiero F2 disc plate, as it was readily available for Rs.1600&I didn't want to do anything with the forks-just recently got them throughed&oil refilled. Cost wise also the extra parts would have made it more expensive in my case-I didn't need to change the brake piston/caliper etc.Only the disc plate+pads+oil as you can see from my last post.
                            Since you are going in for a complete new disc assembly, the Apache 150's setup makes better sense. Hope your tyres are good enough, else they will skid under the new improved braking.
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                            • Hmmm talks of Discs for the Fiero? I got a RTR setup on my Suzuki fiero. The fork legs are the original Fiero's with some work done on the right leg to hold the RTR Disc assembly. No issues with tyre slipping or skidding and the braking is awesome. Mind you, I do need a front tyre change for other reasons. Its 8 years old and run over 50k kms.
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                              • ^For the record, I did the works and the disc transplant on Mash's bike and what we did was a little tideous job that needs a lot of precision and you need to use the right bits to solve the puzzle. Else you'll end up with a warped lower tube and and messed up system.

                                Yes, you can use the A150 disc plate on the Fiero, its all the same mounting and has better life.
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