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**Rajdip Saha** · 11-22-2018, 12:54 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by MotoBlizzard View Post

You change oil based on KMs covered and engine response.

Mineral oils have a service life upto 4000kms - A safe minimum for changing oil would be 3500kms
Synthetics have a service life upto 8000kms - A safe minimum for changing oil would be 6500kms

Does the service life of the engine oil depend only the miles covered or does it also depend on time.
Can the synthetic oil be kept in the engine for a year and more if someone has very less running. Or will it have any negative impact?

**MotoBlizzard** · 11-22-2018, 01:26 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Rajdip Saha View Post

Does the service life of the engine oil depend only the miles covered or does it also depend on time.
Can the synthetic oil be kept in the engine for a year and more if someone has very less running. Or will it have any negative impact?

Depends on both. As the byproducts of combustion accumulate in the engine oil, the oil becomes acidic. If this oil is left inside the engine for a long period of time, it will cause internal corrosion and sludge formation. This is ofcourse an over simplified way of saying things, the actual stuff is more complicated.

So with minerals it is 4000kms or 4months (generally)

With synthetics its 8000kms or 8months (generally for india)

Dont even go with Semi-synthetics, theres really is no value in opting for them.

There can be variations depending on usage, brand, time factor etc etc.....

So an essential indicator would be a performance difference between when you got the oil replaced freshly and at some other point down the lane. This ofc requires that you remember how the bike performed when you changed the oil.

**MidnightEvil Parth** · 11-22-2018, 01:36 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by MotoBlizzard View Post

Depends on both. As the byproducts of combustion accumulate in the engine oil, the oil becomes acidic. If this oil is left inside the engine for a long period of time, it will cause internal corrosion and sludge formation. This is ofcourse an over simplified way of saying things, the actual stuff is more complicated.

So with minerals it is 4000kms or 4months (generally)

With synthetics its 8000kms or 8months (generally for india)

Dont even go with Semi-synthetics, theres really is no value in opting for them.

There can be variations depending on usage, brand, time factor etc etc.....

So an essential indicator would be a performance difference between when you got the oil replaced freshly and at some other point down the lane. This ofc requires that you remember how the bike performed when you changed the oil.

Totally agree with everything said here.

**Rajdip Saha** · 11-22-2018, 06:33 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by MotoBlizzard View Post

Depends on both. As the byproducts of combustion accumulate in the engine oil, the oil becomes acidic. If this oil is left inside the engine for a long period of time, it will cause internal corrosion and sludge formation. This is ofcourse an over simplified way of saying things, the actual stuff is more complicated.

So with minerals it is 4000kms or 4months (generally)

With synthetics its 8000kms or 8months (generally for india)

Dont even go with Semi-synthetics, theres really is no value in opting for them.

There can be variations depending on usage, brand, time factor etc etc.....

So an essential indicator would be a performance difference between when you got the oil replaced freshly and at some other point down the lane. This ofc requires that you remember how the bike performed when you changed the oil.

I am using the motul 7100 10w40 and its been over 1 year and I have just clocked approx 3.5-4k Kms the performance has not decreased and the oil is still quite viscous. I too think 1 year is too long and I should change the oil. I think people like me who clock very less kms should go for mineral oil as synthetic oils are much expensive and cant be utilized to their full extent, even the performance difference is not that huge on these small capacity bikes.

**raintree** · 11-24-2018, 02:36 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

With the recent rains in chennai, my Gixxer lost it's front end & fell on it's right side inside my office parking lot. No damage to the bike as I was moving at approx 5-10 km/h except the handlebar appears slightly bent to the right.

Showed this to a Suzuki authorised service centre and the service manager says the bend cannot be rectified and the entire Handlebar T stem needs replacing. He quotes around 2300 INR for parts and 850 INR as labour.

Has anyone faced an issue like this before? If so, were you able to rectify the bend?

**ayrus** · 11-24-2018, 08:11 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by raintree View Post

With the recent rains in chennai, my Gixxer lost it's front end & fell on it's right side inside my office parking lot. No damage to the bike as I was moving at approx 5-10 km/h except the handlebar appears slightly bent to the right.

Showed this to a Suzuki authorised service centre and the service manager says the bend cannot be rectified and the entire Handlebar T stem needs replacing. He quotes around 2300 INR for parts and 850 INR as labour.

Has anyone faced an issue like this before? If so, were you able to rectify the bend?

Try to check from a different SVC. I know bike where the handlebar bend has been fixed but not sure of the Gixxer. So it is better to ask from a different SVC. Then it will be clear if this guy wants to cask you out.

**kuulbhaskar** · 11-24-2018, 08:44 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by raintree View Post

With the recent rains in chennai, my Gixxer lost it's front end & fell on it's right side inside my office parking lot. No damage to the bike as I was moving at approx 5-10 km/h except the handlebar appears slightly bent to the right.

Showed this to a Suzuki authorised service centre and the service manager says the bend cannot be rectified and the entire Handlebar T stem needs replacing. He quotes around 2300 INR for parts and 850 INR as labour.

Has anyone faced an issue like this before? If so, were you able to rectify the bend?

I think they are tring to loot you !! even my bike fell on right side while parked inside my building and the handlebar was bend . Normally on a bike fall i dont think the tripple T bar would bend that easily. So i would suggest you to buy the handle bar which costs only Rs 347 in asc and fix it by any good mechanic nearby . Also they would ask you to buy the left hand side grip which can be taken out easily from old handle bar using petrol and long screw driver and fix it on new handle bar using dendride.

**Angurj** · 11-25-2018, 02:00 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Hi guys,

Why do we have this thick sheet of some rubber under the chain near the front sprocket? Is it to protect the swing arm from chain when the chain loosens?
When the chain elongates in the longer run, it rubs in this sheet and I can feel it in my legs when riding in low speed that something is not smooth under there. It is highly noticeable when it's rainy season and mud (sand particles clog to chain lubricant and gets deposited under the chain on this sheet clogging to it with the help of lubricant).

Is it removable? Can I remove it? If yes, to the SVC or local mechanic or DIY?

**MotoBlizzard** · 11-25-2018, 04:11 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Angurj View Post

Hi guys,

Why do we have this thick sheet of some rubber under the chain near the front sprocket? Is it to protect the swing arm from chain when the chain loosens?
When the chain elongates in the longer run, it rubs in this sheet and I can feel it in my legs when riding in low speed that something is not smooth under there. It is highly noticeable when it's rainy season and mud (sand particles clog to chain lubricant and gets deposited under the chain on this sheet clogging to it with the help of lubricant).

Is it removable? Can I remove it? If yes, to the SVC or local mechanic or DIY?

**ayrus** · 11-25-2018, 04:18 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Angurj View Post

Hi guys,

Why do we have this thick sheet of some rubber under the chain near the front sprocket? Is it to protect the swing arm from chain when the chain loosens?
When the chain elongates in the longer run, it rubs in this sheet and I can feel it in my legs when riding in low speed that something is not smooth under there. It is highly noticeable when it's rainy season and mud (sand particles clog to chain lubricant and gets deposited under the chain on this sheet clogging to it with the help of lubricant).

Is it removable? Can I remove it? If yes, to the SVC or local mechanic or DIY?

It is there for a reason. If you remove that rubber strip, the chain will rub against the swingarm which will wear out the chain faster and also damage the swingarm in the long run. If your chain rubs against it, it does exactly what it was supposed to do. If the chain is constantly rubbing against this, it is time to check your chain slack.

**Angurj** · 11-25-2018, 05:37 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by MotoBlizzard View Post

Oh okay. I too thought of the same purpose. Whenever the chain runs against it we need to check the slackness too..

**Angurj** · 11-25-2018, 05:38 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by ayrus View Post

It is there for a reason. If you remove that rubber strip, the chain will rub against the swingarm which will wear out the chain faster and also damage the swingarm in the long run. If your chain rubs against it, it does exactly what it was supposed to do. If the chain is constantly rubbing against this, it is time to check your chain slack.

Did it in a local mechanic shop (as I do not have the tools) a month ago. Now again.. Local mechanics don't check the free play [emoji29]

**ayrus** · 11-25-2018, 05:54 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Angurj View Post

Did it in a local mechanic shop (as I do not have the tools) a month ago. Now again.. Local mechanics don't check the free play [emoji29]

Always check the freeplay by yourself using a ruler/tape both before and after adjusting the chain as specified in the user manual.

In my case, a mechanic made the chain slack 10 mm (recommended is 20-25 mm; not for gixxer) and said it is the correct slack. And the SVC said 35 mm is alright.

**cbzee** · 11-26-2018, 12:57 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by MotoBlizzard View Post

Dont even go with Semi-synthetics, theres really is no value in opting for them.

I would like to know why we don't go with semi-synthetics. The SVC itself are providing semi-synthetics for Gixxer.

**MotoBlizzard** · 11-26-2018, 02:38 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by cbzee View Post

I would like to know why we don't go with semi-synthetics. The SVC itself are providing semi-synthetics for Gixxer.

I am not going to lay down the specifics. You can read up on Semi-Synthetics yourself. Also IdemitsuIndia is not a brand I trust since they refused to answer what their SS and FS oil blend contains. I could file for an RTI but I dont need to. There are plenty of other safe and transparent options.

50% of the time, SVCs dont know what they are doing or saying, atleast the Suzuki SVCs that I have gone to, so you shouldnt take everything that they say at face value.

For example they are trained to tell you that ECSTAR R9000 (supposedly FS Oil) will give you best engine protection, smooth ride, more mileage yada yada yada. But they wont tell you that the service life of an FS oil is around 8000kms. They will tell you to get it changed at 4000kms or less irrespective of what oil you are using.

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