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  • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by anand.js View Post
    Rode to Bajaj service center, they had to pull down the entire master/slave assembly to fix it. I was right beside the bike for 30 mins, there was no progress, I just moved away for 5 mins, when I came back the all was fixed in a jiff and the SA was taking it out for a test! :P

    Rode another 50kms after all seems ok with the brakes, but Most of today was riding in bumper to bumper traffic, engine is super duper harsh under 4K RPM. Seriously waiting to swap over to Motul and check. Upset with the bike as of now!
    probably a jammed rear caliper/piston, they must have removed and cleaned/greased the parts. caliper servicing in their lingo.
    the rear brake on my duke was producing a 'tak' noise on applying the brake.. had the caliper removed cleaned and greased the pins.. and the noise vanished.

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    • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

      Originally posted by anand.js View Post
      Any known issue with NS should apply to this one as well, unless Bajaj has worked on them. That said, the NS itself is a pretty reliable bike with very few niggling issues reported. You can check the NS thread if you like.

      Few minor issues have cropped up in my bike in the mean while. I have crossed about 1.6K kms, and have officially closed the run-in period.

      Problems faced so far:
      1. Fairing screws getting loose by themselves. Have tightened them need to see if this repeats.
      2. Timing chain noise is now evident, need to get that adjusted ASC.
      3. Main chain is noisy, have sprayed TVS chain lube, havn't yet tested it for noise.
      4. Low beam is too vague, need to open it up and adjust the beam.

      A while back someone had asked whats a good cruising speed on this bike, I would say around 95-100kmph. Though the bike makes brisk progress till about 100kmph, if one upshifts to 6th at the said speed, the acceleration is dull. If there is some head wind like the ones I faced on Sunday morning, there is hardly any progress. I did manage to do around 127 and a wind free stretch, it was still pulling would have reached 135+, and it was pretty vibe free. Its strange I get vibes at lower revvs, and the engine is smooth at the higher end of the rev range
      Dude... I've read almost all your posts in this thread ... and man let me tell you... I'M DAMN CONFUSED

      How on earth can bike vibrates in lower rpms and vibe free at higher revs?

      I've booked RS 200 and Gixxer SF... at the same time considering AS200 too... But this VIBRATION factor keeping me away from Bajaj... I need bike with good power as I owned Karizma for 7 years.. Need a good upgrade over it... Also i'm touring lover.. hence considering these bikes...

      Here's are my let downs in these three bikes...

      RS200 : Vibrations, fit and finish
      AS200 : Vibrations and fit and finish to some extent
      Gixxer SF : Power


      Can you please elaborate more on vibrations at different RPMs and speed..?? Need to decide asap as my Gixxer SF already reached the dealer...

      Thanks in Advance..

      Happy Riding

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      • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

        Originally posted by sagar.sutar View Post
        Dude... I've read almost all your posts in this thread ... and man let me tell you... I'M DAMN CONFUSED

        How on earth can bike vibrates in lower rpms and vibe free at higher revs?

        I've booked RS 200 and Gixxer SF... at the same time considering AS200 too... But this VIBRATION factor keeping me away from Bajaj... I need bike with good power as I owned Karizma for 7 years.. Need a good upgrade over it... Also i'm touring lover.. hence considering these bikes...

        Here's are my let downs in these three bikes...

        RS200 : Vibrations, fit and finish
        AS200 : Vibrations and fit and finish to some extent
        Gixxer SF : Power


        Can you please elaborate more on vibrations at different RPMs and speed..?? Need to decide asap as my Gixxer SF already reached the dealer...

        Thanks in Advance..

        Happy Riding
        Well i own AS200 Red with MRF Zapper (2 days old bike).Trust me its a brilliant bike.It has got power,it has got the best lights(Absolutely PERIOD about it),A very good highway tourer bike coz of the front fairing,a very good mileage(close to 39-40 on city once run-in is over),great suspension for city and highway rides,good build quality....all at such an affordable price.I don't know why people r comparing it with even duke.Thats an FI bike , u just cant compare them.

        Now i see so many people just making complains and complains with the bike starting from handle vibe,eng vibe and what not vibe.....sound from here and there.

        Thats a bike .It will make sound when it goes through indian roads.

        What my point is that the last 20 pages are just full of complains.I had a pulsar 180 UG4. Sold it and bought it.And trust me if you start getting into this thing where u just think of small issues then u can never ever enjoy your ride.

        This bike is a BLOODY GOOD bike and i mean it.It has got such an awesome power.heck people should be happy that its compared with Duke which is some 55K more than this.

        Just sit on an AS200,Start Engine and enjoy the ride...

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        Originally posted by anand.js View Post
        w.r.t to seating comfort, its good and can match or better the Dazzler. This is a heavier bike but you wont really feel it. Handling in city conditions is spot on too, except that U-turns are a bit cumbersome due to its SUV-ish turn radius. But not a big issue. Pillion will be pretty ok as well, riding 2 up is normal too.

        When it comes to engine performance in the city, the Low end torque might not be as good as what you experienced with the Honda 150 engine family. You will need to frequently shift up and down, which might be a lil irritating, again not a show stopper. That is compromised with the good mid-range and a decent top end. Also, dont expect the motor to 'purr' along like the Hondas. This one is a bit impatient and will sound that way as well, that's its nature.
        "NO",Turning radius is not like SUV.Stop comparing and giving wrong information that its radius is SUV.

        The Radius is something like the Pulsar 180 UG4.Pulling back the bike needs little effort but nothing that would bother u

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        Originally posted by Raj_Kumar View Post
        Hi Guys,

        I have received my Pulsar AS200 [RED] on saturday
        I bought the bike from Khivraj Kasturba road, Bangalore.


        I am coming to AS200 from a 2007 Pulsar 200 DTSi and I can see a lot of improvements. There are many good things to talk about AS and people are already doing that, so I will spare that.

        But there are some things i want to rant about. Please do provide your suggestions on how to resolve these issues
        I have clocked 140 KM on it as of now. - Congrats on your new bike.Follow Run-in Strictly.Dont go post 4500RPM

        1) The biggest issue:
        But this may be limited to my bike alone.
        My bike veers towards left when i leave the handle bars. This happens in all the speeds (upto 55). I have checked my tyre pressure (25 front, 28 rear).
        It is so bad that I have to catch the handle bars back again else it veers very dangerously. The only way I can keep it straight is by shifting my weight towards right.

        Also, when I twist the handle bar to complete left, i feel a spongy feeling and I can see some wires are obstructing the handle bar to remain at complete left.
        If i leave at complete left, handle bar will just push it self back a few millimeter out. This does not happen to the right side though.

        I brought this to the notice of Khivraj SC guy immediately. He took a small drive and said no problem.
        After I prodded another senior guy came, did the same and says may be the front tyre has to wear down evenly. It will take 1000 KMs or so
        . Seriously ? And I needed all my patience and zen to keep calm, smile to them and walk out.

        I felt no point in coming to Khivraj for service.

        I plan to take it to Auto Service in banashankari for my first service and let them resolve it. Let me know if they are still good or not. I have read about them on XBHp and this will be the first time I will be going to them.


        -->I need help from guys here to suggest best way to resolve this. What should I suspect here? Will this be easily rectified? - Exact same issue on mine.But doesnt bother much.Its coz of the wiring tahts making this noise.Laos you r thinking too much and trying to see if it goes left every time.Get it out of your head or else u will never enjoy riding this bike.

        2) Suspension set up is tight:
        It is a bit more tight than my expectation / liking. Does AS rear suspension have any setting to make it softer? - Please go to Bajaj ASC and they can do it for you as settings can be changed.

        3) Idle vibrations: I did not see a lot of mention of this, but when i am in idle, I feel a side to side vibrations in the bike. it is very slow frequency but i can feel the bike sway horizontally. I had not felt this with my Pulsar 200 DTSi. Can other AS owners let me know if they feel some thing similar in their bikes too or not? - You just rode 140 KMs and saying it vibrates in idle.Are you expecting a CBR250 like smoothness with the amount you paid for this bike.Its an Engine and its supposed to vibrate,specially for the 1st 3000Kms. So get used to it.

        4) I feel the switch gear quality is for the most part ok. But indicators are not that great. It does not have the correct tactile feel, especially if you have golves, and the indicator on the console does not show the specific direction of the indicator.-Agreed but don't say Quality as it should be Fitting.But thats fine.You still can use it comfortably.Just need to get used to the ergonomics.

        Over all, I have a mixed feeling about quality from Bajaj now. Only time will tell. Hopefully point 1 above gets resolved, and point 3 is nothing but because of need to engine run-in. - You already knew the answer still you asked! Qyuality - They are really good.Dont judge a bike by just 140 Kms.Ride it for atleast 5-10K Kms.


        I can live with tight set suspension, but if AS was meant to be a touring bike, then a softer suspension and a bit less rear set footpegs would have helped.- When Bajaj say touring bike they didnt meant it to be a hardcore one.Its the same price as NS but better lights and colours.Touring on city is nice.And did u see the Headlights.Tell me one bike at this price segment which has such an awesome through.It just rips off Pulsar 220 Headlights....Its that good!


        Cheers
        My point is u think there are too many negative in this bike.I came form a Pulsar 180 and man its a day n nite diff.I like the vibes,makes me feel m riding a bike and not a scooty.So stit relax and enjoy the ride.

        Regarding the handle going left dont worry much.Indian roads r made like this to refrain from water clotting on roads.Any vehicle if not holded wil go left

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        • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

          Originally posted by xplod566 View Post


          "NO",Turning radius is not like SUV.Stop comparing and giving wrong information that its radius is SUV.

          The Radius is something like the Pulsar 180 UG4.Pulling back the bike needs little effort but nothing that would bother u
          I am not sure what P180 felt like, my previous bikes were CBR250R, P220, ZMA, CBZ in that order. Comparatively, the Turning radius is bigger, period. May be the Eliminator has a wider Turning radius. When I say, its wider, not that it cant be managed but its still wider than the others hence its mentioned by many, not necessarily a negative.

          The bike vibrates, at least as of now in its early life. And there are some noises and harshness experienced by many, Its not supposed to, they might go away as we clock more miles. Some noises can be fixed, like Fairing, timing chain, chain etc, some might be part of the bike character (Like the rattling fairing of the 220) which we have to live with. Now if you don't point it out, how do you expect to discuss and solve what can be solved?

          Every new product goes through these cycles, the first few pages of the 220/250R ownership forums will have much more cries and complaints, its part of life. Everyone wont be able to tolerate issues and keep riding like you suggest I had a rear brake failure, might be a one off case, should I just smile and enjoy the rest of the ride without brakes ?

          The AS200 is good/VFM no doubt, but there are few rough edges here and there, just like any other Bajaj. But we still love our Pulsars!

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          Originally posted by sagar.sutar View Post
          Dude... I've read almost all your posts in this thread ... and man let me tell you... I'M DAMN CONFUSED

          How on earth can bike vibrates in lower rpms and vibe free at higher revs?
          Sorry for confusing you

          Well, May be i used the wrong word, Engine harshness is less in higher RPMs since the peak power/torque is produced high up the RPM range, hence after 5.5K RPM the bike feels more enthusiastic where as its a bit sluggish in the lower RPMs.
          Last edited by anand.js; 07-12-2015, 02:24 AM.
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          • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

            Originally posted by anand.js View Post
            I am not sure what P180 felt like, my previous bikes were CBR250R, P220, ZMA, CBZ in that order. Comparatively, the Turning radius is bigger, period. May be the Eliminator has a wider Turning radius. When I say, its wider, not that it cant be managed but its still wider than the others hence its mentioned by many, not necessarily a negative.- Ok so it was just a figure of speech!Didnt get it.But people with cars could take this SUVish radius seriously

            The bike vibrates, at least as of now in its early life. And there are some noises and harshness experienced by many, Its not supposed to, they might go away as we clock more miles. Some noises can be fixed, like Fairing, timing chain, chain etc, some might be part of the bike character (Like the rattling fairing of the 220) which we have to live with. Now if you don't point it out, how do you expect to discuss and solve what can be solved? - I dont think you won an AS200.I m pretty sure.The bike is rough,every bike is rough in the initial periods,Specially Bajaj Pulsar.THe sound he is talking about is coming from the rubber bush from front.And he didnt even drove 200Kms.I was suggesting him to drive for at least 1000 Kms and then come to a conclusion if problem persists.Its too early to tell.

            Every new product goes through these cycles, the first few pages of the 220/250R ownership forums will have much more cries and complaints, its part of life. Everyone wont be able to tolerate issues and keep riding like you suggest I had a rear brake failure, might be a one off case, should I just smile and enjoy the rest of the ride without brakes ? - Well if brakes fail definitely no person would ask to live with it(Common Sense).He was talking about Handle going on Left.Its same for me too and its mainly coz of faulty tires.For that he can claim warranty,but then again too early to tell.Let him drive till 1st service and then be sure.

            The AS200 is good/VFM no doubt, but there are few rough edges here and there, just like any other Bajaj. But we still love our Pulsars! - FINALLY something that we both agree on!!!

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            Sorry for confusing you

            Well, May be i used the wrong word, Engine harshness is less in higher RPMs since the peak power/torque is produced high up the RPM range, hence after 5.5K RPM the bike feels more enthusiastic where as its a bit sluggish in the lower RPMs.
            - Yes same .It is there.Proper run-in will solve it

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            • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

              Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
              - Yes same .It is there.Proper run-in will solve it
              Hey @xplod566! Kudos to your fierce defense of the AS! We all love and appreciate a passionate biker

              IMO, what @anand.js and many other like me want to convey to the general public is that the bike is brilliant, BUT not without its fair share of small niggles.
              Since we are the front runners of buying this product, we are also bound to face many more complaints in these initial stages.
              These repeated complaints which we encounter get registered with the SVCs and finally may reach Bajaj, which may make improvements in the next batch, similar to every product life cycle of a new launch.

              These initial ownership pages are bound to be filled with more and more issues, complaints and frustrations, even more so in the days to come.
              This repository of questions and answers WILL help future AS200 owners make correct decisions and avoid a lot of the hassles which we may have had to undergo.

              Just because its a "Bajaj", we are supposed to forgive and forget these "minor" issues and continue to live on with the typical Indian "Jugaad" mentality? I seriously think with KTM's R&D and world wide exports, Bajaj cannot claim to be 'just' an Indian manufacturer and expect its customers to turn a blind eye to basic quality issues like wiring, ergonomics, panel gaps, etc.

              Totally agree with your point that the bike needs more kms to really shine. We all are looking forward to the same!
              Cheers mate..!
              Last edited by VaruaG; 07-13-2015, 02:26 PM.

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              • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

                Originally posted by VaruaG View Post
                Hey @xplod566! Kudos to your fierce defense of the AS! We all love and appreciate a passionate biker

                IMO, what @anand.js and many other like me want to convey to the general public is that the bike is brilliant, BUT not without its fair share of small niggles.
                Since we are the front runners of buying this product, we are also bound to face many more complaints in these initial stages.
                These repeated complaints which we encounter get registered with the SVCs and finally may reach Bajaj, which may make improvements in the next batch, similar to every product life cycle of a new launch.

                These initial ownership pages are bound to be filled with more and more issues, complaints and frustrations, even more so in the days to come.
                This repository of questions and answers WILL help future AS200 owners make correct decisions and avoid a lot of the hassles which we may have had to undergo.

                Just because its a "Bajaj", we are supposed to forgive and forget these "minor" issues and continue to live on with the typical Indian "Jugaad" mentality? I seriously think with KTM's R&D and world wide exports, Bajaj cannot claim to be 'just' an Indian manufacturer and expect its customers to turn a blind eye to basic quality issues like wiring, ergonomics, panel gaps, etc.

                Totally agree with your point that the bike needs more kms to really shine. We all are looking forward to the same!
                Cheers mate..!
                Cheers bro.This bike is amazing.I just love riding this bike.It has minor glitches but then none ARE DEAL BREAKER.Frankly speaking every pulsar always had some glitches.Hope this goes off after sometime.

                The only problem i m facing is the rear breaklever is too Up.So hard to keep my foot on it.Thinking to go toa welding shop and fix it.Went to Auto Service yesterdya and they told it cant be fixed and will be like this!

                btw do u also own an AS200?Which colour?And how is it so far?

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                • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

                  Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                  Cheers bro.This bike is amazing.I just love riding this bike.It has minor glitches but then none ARE DEAL BREAKER.Frankly speaking every pulsar always had some glitches.Hope this goes off after sometime.

                  The only problem i m facing is the rear breaklever is too Up.So hard to keep my foot on it.Thinking to go toa welding shop and fix it.Went to Auto Service yesterdya and they told it cant be fixed and will be like this!

                  btw do u also own an AS200?Which colour?And how is it so far?

                  Yes, I own a blazing Red One! People still stare at her at the stoplights! Just itching to complete the run-in and give her a whack!
                  The brake and gear levers are placed just too damn high! A slight inclination to each would have solved the problem, instead Bajaj chose to place them dead straight!

                  I have a question about the EuroSlips... I know they are the worst and an abomination, but will I surely crash and die if I don't switch over to better rubber asap?
                  I am mostly a commuter, a chilled one at that. 40~70 within city limits at max. Occasion tourer, but do have plans for long distance 600+ kms tours in the near future.
                  I'm not really a corner carver (Where do u find corners in Hyderabad?). So will the Eurogrips suffice or should I switch over to MRFs while I can get a good exchange rate for the stock tyres?

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                  • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                    I see a lot of places on the swingarm that have the provision to fit something on. Like clamps and holes for bolts to go through, particularly near the rear disc. Is this because the swingarm is shared with the 200NS, and the rear tyre hugger usually rests in that place?

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                    • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                      Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
                      I see a lot of places on the swingarm that have the provision to fit something on. Like clamps and holes for bolts to go through, particularly near the rear disc. Is this because the swingarm is shared with the 200NS, and the rear tyre hugger usually rests in that place?
                      yup....

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                      • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                        Originally posted by VaruaG View Post
                        yup....
                        Anybody tried removing that ugly rear fender and fitting on a tire hugger, and also probably fitting the NS' rear licence plate holder?

                        Looks like a job for DIY MAN!

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                        • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

                          Originally posted by VaruaG View Post
                          I have a question about the EuroSlips... I know they are the worst and an abomination, but will I surely crash and die if I don't switch over to better rubber asap?
                          I am mostly a commuter, a chilled one at that. 40~70 within city limits at max. Occasion tourer, but do have plans for long distance 600+ kms tours in the near future.
                          I'm not really a corner carver (Where do u find corners in Hyderabad?). So will the Eurogrips suffice or should I switch over to MRFs while I can get a good exchange rate for the stock tyres?

                          For day to day ise they are OK. And definitely you wont slip and die(but if you do, no insurance claims on by behalf&#128540
                          But you may require sudden braking at any speed but low speeds mean low risk, so keep it low and change the tyres at about 10000. Also if you ride responsibly you can avoid most situations of panic braking.

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                          • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

                            Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                            Cheers bro.This bike is amazing.I just love riding this bike.It has minor glitches but then none ARE DEAL BREAKER.Frankly speaking every pulsar always had some glitches.Hope this goes off after sometime.

                            The only problem i m facing is the rear breaklever is too Up.So hard to keep my foot on it.Thinking to go toa welding shop and fix it.Went to Auto Service yesterdya and they told it cant be fixed and will be like this!

                            btw do u also own an AS200?Which colour?And how is it so far?
                            I have also felt the same problem and during my first service Guys at Khivraj kasturba road have adjusted the rear brake lever due to which the brake efficiency has definitely reduced but there is a little play in the lever now, so that you can place your leg comfortably.

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                            • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

                              Originally posted by VaruaG View Post
                              Yes, I own a blazing Red One! People still stare at her at the stoplights! Just itching to complete the run-in and give her a whack!
                              The brake and gear levers are placed just too damn high! A slight inclination to each would have solved the problem, instead Bajaj chose to place them dead straight!

                              I have a question about the EuroSlips... I know they are the worst and an abomination, but will I surely crash and die if I don't switch over to better rubber asap?
                              I am mostly a commuter, a chilled one at that. 40~70 within city limits at max. Occasion tourer, but do have plans for long distance 600+ kms tours in the near future.
                              I'm not really a corner carver (Where do u find corners in Hyderabad?). So will the Eurogrips suffice or should I switch over to MRFs while I can get a good exchange rate for the stock tyres?
                              Awesome.I feel the bike is at its best when it is i Red.Well i somehow managed to use the gear lever even though it s a bit high but the brake lever is just killing me.I mean its so high i cant even put foot Above it.Its really in a very bad position.hope the future AS is fixed.I went to service and they told it cant be fixed.Only thing we can do is to go to a welding shop and they do a DIY of it.Probably bent it a little from the middle position.After that it wil b perfect.

                              Regrading the tyres Euroslip is a decent one.Its good on hard roads but on wet it slips provided u bent too much or brake at very high speed to sudden stop.Euroslips are meant to last where as MRF is good both on wet and dry.If u get a chance u can change to MRF As they rgood.but if u r not doing too much cornering or dont apply sudden breaks then eurogrip is also good.Its not that MRF doesnt slip.Even it slips but ya Eurogrip skids early than MRF at hard breaking conditions.

                              I have 2 of my friends who has NS200 and they have eurigrip.They still use it although its ben 15000 kms.Once they settled into it they found it to be decent.But ya with MRF the Roadgrip do increase.

                              I can suggest u to use it for 5000Kms and see if you are okay with it as it should have a good grip till that time.After that if u feel u want even more balance and roadgrip definately MRF :-)

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                              Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
                              I see a lot of places on the swingarm that have the provision to fit something on. Like clamps and holes for bolts to go through, particularly near the rear disc. Is this because the swingarm is shared with the 200NS, and the rear tyre hugger usually rests in that place?
                              The holes u r seeing near the rear disc brake is also used to Fit the Service Stand as it doesnt come with a center stand.


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                              Originally posted by sibin.mohan View Post
                              I have also felt the same problem and during my first service Guys at Khivraj kasturba road have adjusted the rear brake lever due to which the brake efficiency has definitely reduced but there is a little play in the lever now, so that you can place your leg comfortably.

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                              Ok thats cool.But are the breakes play too less now.If apply rear brake does it skid?if not its in very less play but you also avoid tyre skidding

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                              • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

                                Originally posted by xplod566 View Post

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                                Ok thats cool.But are the breakes play too less now.If apply rear brake does it skid?if not its in very less play but you also avoid tyre skidding
                                Brakes are not that efficient now. I have to apply a lil more force to make them work. If u press the brakes the brakes real hard it does skid.

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