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  • Re: Request For Keeping GS 150R thread active and interesting as it was back in 2010

    [QUOTE=BlackPanther;1266432]Sir,

    Could you try the Philips X-treme Vision Plus (H4 type - 12V 55/60W) before you plan for an upgrade.

    My nephew installed in his Gixxer and a very big difference in visibility I must say. Costs 300 INR in Amazon.

    I received mine from Amazon yesterday and will be switching from Osram H4 12V 55/60W to this today.

    Cheers,
    Anand

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    Hi Anand,

    I meant to reply to your post and tried some days ago, but my connection was not that stable and the info got lost! Sorry about that. Regarding your advice on a headlamp bulb, I could try some alternatives from Philips, Osram, etc. (actually I am running Cool Blue Intense bulbs on my car and they are GOOD!) but the real problem with GS is the kind of current it produces, or how it is delivered for lighting. As far as I know, Gixxer is DC powered (please read quote below), so a 55/60w actually does make an impact on lighting, but our GS with stock electrical setup would barely see a difference if you go higher on watts, and flickering would, of course, stay. --Please correct me if I'm wrong--. Actually I just found this on a Gixxer's thread here:


    [Gixxer's headlamp] does not fluctuate as both ends of the coil is connected to the full wave rectifier in the RR. In bikes like GS, one end of the coil is earthed and the half wave RR produces pulsating DC to which the headlight is connected.
    In both cases, the voltage and current depends on engine RPM.


    My idea at this point with my GS is to upgrade to a higher capacity battery in order to more safely connect my headlamp to a DC line, such as the turn signals one. The goal would be ELIMINATING FLUCTUATION and IMPROVING OUTPUT SOME 30% for 45-60 Min. RIDES. I just need to find the right LED for this purpose, but I believe 20/20w could be a good compromise for a 7 or 9Ah battery. My battery right now is a 7Ah MTX7B Motorbatt.

    Cheers,

    Gilbert



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    Originally posted by octane_fx View Post
    I am hyderabad (telengana) after reading a lot about GS150 i decided to get one for my self , i have owned my bikes right from good Ol Jawa , splendor , pulsars , unicorn,s , ZMA , and many many more , most bikes that i owned i purchased them twice , frankly i was not sure why i bought the same make and model twice ,
    so finally a gentle man sold me his GS150R for Rs20,000 on Nov 2nd 2016 , the bike was running good for first two weeks , in fact i really like the 6th gear aspect of this bike , every thing in this bike is very well built , to my surprise it refused to start on morning , few days before this the bike would jerk a lot in gears and throw black smoke , i got the bike serviced at a local mechanic shop , nothing changed much in the way the bike was responding ,infact it became worst after the service ,i got the clutch plates ,pressure plates and changed and fresh oil ,but no go , finally it refused to start one day and i tried all means ,no luck , i wrote to Suzuki and they responded immediately, they asked to get the bike at BQ Suzuki service center in Hyderabad (near Zoo park) ,

    i used the porter APP and book my bikes pickup and dropped her personally at the service centre , 7 days after the service she is back , the Bill Rs 9100 , i bargained and got the bill down to Rs 8500 , New wiring kit installed, new front brake lever and brake pads , bearings , new lock set , new handle , new switch set ,new fork ball kit and the list goes endless ,the bike feels much better now and runs great , in the interim i purchased a 2013 Suzuki access 125 and another Orange GS150R (call me crazy) but the orange GS was a deal , i now have both bikes , orange 2009 ,and 2009 candy green GS150R,
    all in all i like the bike and plan to keep them for long time ,

    I wanted to know if anyone in this forum has tried to install a big bore kit ,
    i asked the showroom guys and they had no clue ,
    Does any one know if there is a bolt on big bore kit for this bike , i would like to be able to install a 180 CC piston if i could without much MODS ,

    please advise
    Hasan
    Hello Hasan,

    Rs 8500 sounds good for the whole set of pieces and servicing you got for your GS! I hope you are enjoying your bikes now. Could you include the full list of items they changed? BTW, I have not heard a thing about any big bore kits or a "sport" CDI for GS150r, but it could be interesting if anyone could share any experiences with such changes.

    Not that GS is not good as it is...

    Cheers
    Last edited by gs150r_gilbert; 12-26-2016, 11:52 PM. Reason: Correction

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    • Re: Request For Keeping GS 150R thread active and interesting as it was back in 2010

      [QUOTE=gs150r_gilbert;1267923]
      Originally posted by BlackPanther View Post
      Sir,

      Could you try the Philips X-treme Vision Plus (H4 type - 12V 55/60W) before you plan for an upgrade.

      My nephew installed in his Gixxer and a very big difference in visibility I must say. Costs 300 INR in Amazon.

      I received mine from Amazon yesterday and will be switching from Osram H4 12V 55/60W to this today.

      Cheers,
      Anand

      ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

      Hi Anand,

      I meant to reply to your post and tried some days ago, but my connection was not that stable and the info got lost! Sorry about that. Regarding your advice on a headlamp bulb, I could try some alternatives from Philips, Osram, etc. (actually I am running Cool Blue Intense bulbs on my car and they are GOOD!) but the real problem with GS is the kind of current it produces, or how it is delivered for lighting. As far as I know, Gixxer is DC powered (please read quote below), so a 55/60w actually does make an impact on lighting, but our GS with stock electrical setup would barely see a difference if you go higher on voltage, and flickering would, of course, stay. --Please correct me if I'm wrong--. Actually I just found this on a Gixxer's thread here:


      [Gixxer's headlamp] does not fluctuate as both ends of the coil is connected to the full wave rectifier in the RR. In bikes like GS, one end of the coil is earthed and the half wave RR produces pulsating DC to which the headlight is connected.
      In both cases, the voltage and current depends on engine RPM.


      My idea at this point with my GS is to upgrade to a higher capacity battery in order to more safely connect my headlamp to a DC line, such as the turn signals one. The goal would be ELIMINATING FLUCTUATION and IMPROVING OUTPUT SOME 30% for 45-60 Min. RIDES. I just need to find the right LED for this purpose, but I believe 20/20w could be a good compromise for a 7 or 9Ah battery. My battery right now is a 7Ah MTX7B Motorbatt.

      Cheers,

      Gilbert



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      Hello Hasan,

      Rs 8500 sounds good for the whole set of pieces and servicing you got for your GS! I hope you are enjoying your bikes now. Could you include the full list of items they changed? BTW, I have not heard a thing about any big bore kits or a "sport" CDI for GS150r, but it could be interesting if anyone could share any experiences with such changes.

      Not that GS is not good as it is...

      Cheers
      Hi Gilbert thanks for the reply ,I have attached the four page bill to this thread , I hope it helps other to get an estimate of parts prices, the expensive items are the front brake lever kit , wiring harness , cheers Mann .
      • Truth is stranger than fiction - MC .

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      • 7th Anniversary

        My bike completed it's 7 years of service and it's still rocking the Hyderabad roads. Thanks to Saboo Suzuki for their incredible service at Indira Park branch


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        After applying some more effort to shine my beloved bike

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        • Re: Suzuki GS150R

          Excellent Kamlesh ,I still have to sort the shock absorber issue in my green GS and clutch replacement in my.orange GS , I.like the bike overall, I am planning a 500 KMS trip in Jan , then I will have an idea about average mileage and highway pleasure.
          • Truth is stranger than fiction - MC .

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          • Re: Suzuki GS150R

            Originally posted by octane_fx View Post
            Excellent Kamlesh ,I still have to sort the shock absorber issue in my green GS and clutch replacement in my.orange GS , I.like the bike overall, I am planning a 500 KMS trip in Jan , then I will have an idea about average mileage and highway pleasure.
            Try to reach Saboo Suzuki for your next requirement and I hope you will be more than happy They have multiple branches in Secunderabad area Raniganj isthe main branch.

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            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

              Hi Folks!

              Short History: Rear wheel jammed 2 days post a cyclone here in December last year.

              Below: Reason for the seizure - rust & very low usage - a deadly combo! Is the brake drum made of cast iron for long life ?

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              Below: Actually, I was able to rotate the wheel today before removing - but it went krrr, krrr, krrrr. Alloys are from Enkei - I vaguely remember this company while playing GT on a PS2 long long ago. Note the stamp mark left by the shoe.

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              Below: Aluminium(?)+grease+sand=grinding paste; note the fatigue crack.

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              Below: Can this metal cover of LHS rear wheel bearing be removed for re-greasing?

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              Below: Lightly sanded down the drum and cleaned the pads with Rustoleum brake cleaner and de-glazed them. RHS bearing was re-greased.

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              Help: One of the chain cover bolts is just turning (edges on its head fine, I can use a ring spanner) and is un-removable. Any pointers on how to remove that? Thanks !

              Cheers,
              Ashwanth.

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              • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                Can any one suggest best front and rear tyre make model and Price also can I upsize front and rear tyre and will there be mileage issues if i upsize any one or both of them, Suzuki gs150r, 2009 model, 65,0000 on odo.
                • Truth is stranger than fiction - MC .

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                • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                  Originally posted by sirjohn View Post
                  I'm 6'2", and height was the deciding factor for me.Was going for the Gixxer 155 (excellent bike), but it just looks tiny compared to meThe other option for my height and within my budget was Hero Xtreme, but the build quality just felt very flimsy...it was better in its CBZ avatar IMHO.So here I am, waiting for my new black GS to be delivered in a few days! [MENTION=46722]jammbuster[/MENTION] So what did you finally decide?Sent from my GT-S7500 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                  Hi!So, how is your GS doing? I was going through some comments before yours and I believe our old, trusty GS is still a good choice for more mature riders who can use a smooth engine, relaxed position and 6th gear! (not to mention awesome fuel economy). And man, there are some other good choices out there! I was considering Inazuma around the end part of 2016, but sadly the prices of fuel here are going up until open competition from different brands comes to Mexico later this year, so I am better off with my black GS (I am so glad I decided to keep it!!) The thing is, because of traffic regulations I should ride a 250cc motorcycle in Mexico City (how can you convince politicians that a 250 is NOT necessary to survive in the city!) But the point is, I can still ride my GS at a fraction of the cost of a 250 with great comfort and decent looks. One guy at some point asked me if the bike was [more than TWICE the price it actually is here!] Anyway, I will keep my GS150r as long as I can still use most roads here legally.Ride safe!Gil
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                  • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                    Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
                    .. Can this metal cover of LHS rear wheel bearing be removed for re-greasing? ..
                    Should be , bearing covers usually are . Trick with a metal shield is not to deform it much while removing and re-fitting . You have to patiently try with a thin screwdriver blade or similar .

                    Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
                    .. One of the chain cover bolts is just turning (edges on its head fine, I can use a ring spanner) and is un-removable. Any pointers on how to remove that? ..
                    You have to apply an outward pull on the bolt simultaneously while turning . I have been successful in doing this by inserting a thin hacksaw blade or other thin metal piece under the bolt-head edge and prying outwards while using a spanner to turn simultaneously . Hope you got it . it's easier to do than explain

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                    • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                      Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                      Should be , bearing covers usually are . Trick with a metal shield is not to deform it much while removing and re-fitting . You have to patiently try with a thin screwdriver blade or similar .

                      You have to apply an outward pull on the bolt simultaneously while turning . I have been successful in doing this by inserting a thin hacksaw blade or other thin metal piece under the bolt-head edge and prying outwards while using a spanner to turn simultaneously . Hope you got it . it's easier to do than explain

                      Pinaki Da, thanks so much for replying. I tried removing the metal shield with the tiniest possible screwdriver/blade - was not successful so let it be as such - the bearing anyway passed the "finger test". I don't know whether Sparkot/RSK/Gilbert/BlackPanther were able to remove it.

                      Regarding the chain case bolt - removed the LHS footpeg alloy assembly to gain better access and did exactly what you told 2 days ago ... no success once again - fortunately, am able to pivot the upper chain case (inner, upper chain case bolt is the culprit) - so fixing the sprocket assembly and chain won't be a problem right now.

                      Leaving these two things as it is, for now.

                      One of the "soft" rear sprocket mounting nuts damaged while removing - it was corroded badly. Replaced this nut with the torque link nut (both are self-locking type, have a washer like base, same size) and used a new torque link bolt-nut (thanks to RSK, these came from Goa !!).

                      The only thing that has caused concern is the cylinder head exhaust mounting allen bolts. They have rusted a lot and any attempt to remove them might strip the head. SVC asked me to leave it as such - they asked what is the need to open them now - they are lazier than me . Also, compared to other vehicles like Pulsar, Splendor and Hondas, the access to these bolts is very very poor in GS. Unless the exhaust is removed in the GS, the swingarm can't be removed as the RHS shock absorber nut will foul with it.

                      P.S. Your drum brake service DIY helped me a lot !
                      Last edited by ashwanth.r; 01-12-2017, 06:07 PM.

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                      • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                        How long do the rear brake shoes last typically? I gave my bike for service after a gap of 8K kms and the SVC told me that the brake shoes need replacement as they were worn out badly (37K+ kms done). They replaced the brake shoes and the springs.

                        The replacement does the job well, but makes a sound sometimes. Something like a train stopping sound or like the gradual braking noise of the hercules mtb bicycles of the 90's. Is this expected from new brake shoes?

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                        • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                          Originally posted by r0rshack View Post
                          How long do the rear brake shoes last typically? I gave my bike for service after a gap of 8K kms and the SVC told me that the brake shoes need replacement as they were worn out badly (37K+ kms done). They replaced the brake shoes and the springs.

                          The replacement does the job well, but makes a sound sometimes. Something like a train stopping sound or like the gradual braking noise of the hercules mtb bicycles of the 90's. Is this expected from new brake shoes?
                          Rear/Front brake shoe/pad life depends how hard one brakes/type of driving/amount of passive engine braking (just shutting the throttle and rolling on the 6th gear as much as possible before applying the brakes). 37+ k kms is not too early replace the rear brake shoes. Sometimes, the friction material will dislodge from the base - rare but happened once on my Eterno.

                          On my Eterno, when the brakes were wet and noisy, all I had to do was to heat the brakes by applying it - water if present, would vaporize and the brakes would be normal again.

                          My bro had a Hercules MTB and myself a Rockshox (the model with telescopic suspension both at front and rear - I think I got the name right) in the 1990s . I loved those brake sounds (MTB's not my GS); which as you said mimicked a TATA bus/train stopping.

                          On a motorcycle, the sound is due to contamination from dust, rust or water or their combination. Regular use and regular cleaning will prevent contamination and hence that sound. What is more scary (on my GS) than the sound is that they get very sticky and the wheel tends to lock on slight application.

                          Rear disc brake is already on my wish-list for the successor to my GS. For me, replacing brake fluid and cleaning the caliper every 2 years is much easy than opening the rear drum every 3000-4000 kms.
                          Last edited by ashwanth.r; 01-14-2017, 01:30 AM.

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                          • Regarding Engine Oil Performance For GS 150R

                            Well I would like to know how many of you have tried MAK 4T PLUS 20W-40 engine oil for GS 150R ? How was the performance, mileage and engine smoothness for 3000 KM?
                            I generally use Shell Advance AX7 10W-40 semi synthetic oil and I am happy with its engine smoothness but was thinking of trying MAK 4T plus for better mileage as adviced by one of the XBHP GSpian.
                            Generally I ride at 50-65 KMPH and get mileage of 50-55 KMPL in Hyderabad Hitech-City area.

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                            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                              Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
                              On a motorcycle, the sound is due to contamination from dust, rust or water or their combination. Regular use and regular cleaning will prevent contamination and hence that sound.
                              Thanks ashwanth! the brake pads are new and the sound comming out is not regular. They are functional though. Could it be a serious issue?

                              Originally posted by Kamlesh Kumar View Post
                              Well I would like to know how many of you have tried MAK 4T PLUS 20W-40 engine oil for GS 150R ? How was the performance, mileage and engine smoothness for 3000 KM?
                              I generally use Shell Advance AX7 10W-40 semi synthetic oil and I am happy with its engine smoothness but was thinking of trying MAK 4T plus for better mileage as adviced by one of the XBHP GSpian.
                              Generally I ride at 50-65 KMPH and get mileage of 50-55 KMPL in Hyderabad Hitech-City area.
                              I have used MAK 4T plus oil, but i'm not able to tell a difference really (i'm not so qualified enough to sense a difference), but there was no drop in mileage.. im usually getting 54 -56kmpl mileage with mixed city and highway use at the same speeds you have mentioned.

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                              • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                                Originally posted by r0rshack View Post
                                Thanks ashwanth! the brake pads are new and the sound comming out is not regular. They are functional though. Could it be a serious issue?
                                The sound is due to contamination - 37k is too too less for any serious problems and you have anyway changed the shoes/springs. If it makes the sound rarely, one can ignore it; but if the sound is too much uncomfortable, always present or if the brakes are sticky - it is better to get them opened/inspected and cleaned if required.

                                Originally posted by r0rshack View Post
                                I have used MAK 4T plus oil, but i'm not able to tell a difference really (i'm not so qualified enough to sense a difference)
                                IMHO, most people can't tell it - I can't usually.

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