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**Ramhonda** · 02-25-2019, 08:12 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post

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Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check out the shop, seems closer to my office.

**adityagaur51** · 02-26-2019, 12:38 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post

Yes, it locks the front brake pretty badly in panic braking. When you panic brake, the rear wheel tend to slow down very quickly resulting the effect to front wheel, due to effect of combi brake. This is more noticeable while solo riding. With pillion the weight of rear wheel is much more than front wheel, this make very confident braking and best use of CBS. Similar for scooty where CBS works good as engine weight more at rear wheel.
You need to find sweet spot for rear brake for CBS.
You can disconnect the CBS system from front break.

I have fallen down once, I am not sure if it was CBS or rear wheel lock. I have changed my breaking habit not to squeeze too hard and downshift quickly.

How can we disconnect the cbs system..??. I find it not much helpful... Most of the time i use front brakes only...
I want rear brakes when rear brake is applied and front brakes when front brakes are applied...
Is it possible sir...?

**anoopkumar0** · 02-26-2019, 03:41 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by adityagaur51 View Post

How can we disconnect the cbs system..??. I find it not much helpful... Most of the time i use front brakes only...
I want rear brakes when rear brake is applied and front brakes when front brakes are applied...
Is it possible sir...?

Yes, it's possible.
The service center can help you. I don't think it's worth to mess up in DIY. Personally contact manager of service center.
See Service Shop Manaul, Pg. No 265 assembly for CBS system

Following is from Pg. No. 247.

There must be some setting in delay valve or PCV to loose as much as to neglect the effect.

**ashwinprakas** · 02-26-2019, 08:49 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post

Yes, it's possible.
The service center can help you. I don't think it's worth to mess up in DIY. Personally contact manager of service center.
See Service Shop Manaul, Pg. No 265 assembly for There must be some setting in delay valve or PCV to loose as much as to neglect the effect.

Why not simply bypass the whole thing, the respective master cylinders be connected to their respective brakes and the extra ports on the calipers blocked with a regular bolt.

Edit:

If the line from the rear to the front caliper's tiny piston is an isolated compartment then you could simply get a double banjo bolt and line two brake lines from the front master cylinder, one which goes into the normal port on the caliper and the other which goes into the CBS port of the caliper.

This would in effect give you better braking as the front brake master cylinder would have access to 3 pistons instead of two.

Just thinking out loud.

**ashwanth.r** · 02-27-2019, 12:18 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by adityagaur51 View Post

How can we disconnect the cbs system..??. I find it not much helpful... Most of the time i use front brakes only...
I want rear brakes when rear brake is applied and front brakes when front brakes are applied...

The more harder you press on the rear brake pedal, you will activate the front. If you make a feather-like minimal application, it should not apply the front; if it does, the PCV is faulty.

Here is a basic video on CBS:

Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post

There must be some setting in delay valve or PCV to loose as much as to neglect the effect.

Nope. They are not adjustable.

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Why not simply bypass the whole thing, the respective master cylinders be connected to their respective brakes and the extra ports on the calipers blocked with a regular bolt. Edit: If the line from the rear to the front caliper's tiny piston is an isolated compartment then you could simply get a double banjo bolt and line two brake lines from the front master cylinder, one which goes into the normal port on the caliper and the other which goes into the CBS port of the caliper. This would in effect give you better braking as the front brake master cylinder would have access to 3 pistons instead of two. Just thinking out loud.

#1 Isolation of the CBS link from rear to front can be easily done. For rear, one can get a brake hose from ABS DLX version of Hornet. Regarding the front, the center pot can be left as such and the banjo be closed with a suitable bolt.

#2 Double banjo and three pot front sounds interesting but it will increase the risk of front wheel locking.

Some pics from the net:

P.S.: Am not a fan of Honda's CBS.
P.S.S.: PCV = Proportional Control Valve

**anoopkumar0** · 02-27-2019, 12:26 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post

The more harder you press on the rear brake pedal, you will activate the front. If you make a feather-like minimal application, it should not apply the front; if it does, the PCV is faulty.

Here is a basic video on CBS:

Nope. They are not adjustable.

P.S.: Am not a fan of Honda's CBS.

Damn... I am definitely going to ask to disconnect CBS in next service.

**ashwanth.r** · 02-27-2019, 12:49 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post

Damn... I am definitely going to ask to disconnect CBS in next service.

They won't do because they are basically lazy to remove panels and will try to tell it is for your safety, etc. Don't let them adjust anything as it will might make things worse. During panic braking, try to concentrate only on braking the front disc progressively. Make a light application on the rear always, so even in emergency, the body memory applies only a mild-moderate pressure on the rear pedal.

I heard that on Honda scooters, the CBS will not apply the front if the front is individually applied by the rider, am not sure of that tough. Something like that should have been on the Hornet.

**#bpk** · 02-27-2019, 02:54 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post

They won't do because they are basically lazy to remove panels and will try to tell it is for your safety, etc. Don't let them adjust anything as it will might make things worse. During panic braking, try to concentrate only on braking the front disc progressively. Make a light application on the rear always, so even in emergency, the body memory applies only a mild-moderate pressure on the rear pedal.

I heard that on Honda scooters, the CBS will not apply the front if the front is individually applied by the rider, am not sure of that tough. Something like that should have been on the Hornet.

Yes, i had aviator which had cbs and it was as explained by ashwanath sir.

For cbs hornet, riders should avoid using rear brake, and things will become normal.

**anoopkumar0** · 02-27-2019, 09:50 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post

They won't do because they are basically lazy to remove panels and will try to tell it is for your safety, etc. Don't let them adjust anything as it will might make things worse. During panic braking, try to concentrate only on braking the front disc progressively. Make a light application on the rear always, so even in emergency, the body memory applies only a mild-moderate pressure on the rear pedal.

I heard that on Honda scooters, the CBS will not apply the front if the front is individually applied by the rider, am not sure of that tough. Something like that should have been on the Hornet.

For the time.. I have been habituated with CBS and light rear. But definitely I will try to convince them.
I have panic braked with pillion multiple times, don't know if CBS was the play but amazing breaking power and stability every time.
But, while driving alone, I am always defensive after my skid 2 years back.

**Bismaya** · 02-27-2019, 11:16 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post

I heard that on Honda scooters, the CBS will not apply the front if the front is individually applied by the rider, am not sure of that tough. Something like that should have been on the Hornet.

This is true. When using the front and rear side by side, the CBS won't engage. Only the rear one will.

**MotoBlizzard** · 03-02-2019, 10:51 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

[MENTION=81261]anoopkumar0[/MENTION]

Anoop bhai, have you installed a Windshield on your bike from another bike?

**anoopkumar0** · 03-03-2019, 06:39 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by MotoBlizzard View Post

@anoopkumar0

Anoop bhai, have you installed a Windshield on your bike from another bike?

Nope. Plan dropped for now.

**Ramhonda** · 03-08-2019, 11:15 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Anupam Das View Post

Clean the rear brake shoes with sandpaper/emery paper, also clean the drum. You will not hear the squeaking/squealing sound for some more kilometres.

Thanks for the suggestion. Took the vehicle to a nearby mechanic shop and he just did the same. The sound is not there anymore. However, when I drove to work this morning, felt the pickup was sluggish and the bike wasn't climbing stuck @ around 78kmph in highway with a pillon. Usually I never noticed this sluggishness at all until day. Is it possible they mesed up around with adjusting anything to do with pickup? How do I correct it and what do I check? Please advise as I am pretty novice when it comes to bikes, just trying to learn.

**anoopkumar0** · 03-09-2019, 10:20 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Word of advice:
Don't go for too tight chain, a loose chain is much better than heavily tighten chain. Don't worry it is not going to fall out.

Recently ASC tightened the chain after 5K run (I was running pretty loose since 2-3 K and was stable, not further loosing).
When chain is getting dirty and dust is getting accumulated, a tight chain going to give you too rough ride than a loose chain.
Since last 2 weeks my bike started running like something stuck in break and it gone worse. At low speed, a significant vibration in foot-peg on each rotation . I cleaned the break but no improvement.
Today I started cleaning the chain, the wheel was not even rotating on either clutch engaged or disengaged in first gear. After a couple of Diesel spray it got freed. Earlier too, chain went too dirty but bike was there was no vibration.

Overall, if chain is bit looser than standard, leave it , it is not going to loose further. But if tight, eventually it is going to loose and you will face rough ride. Also, don't spray lube on dirty chain, it is going to attract more dirt.
I going to get rid of Motul lube, it seems to attracting too much dirt

**Anupam Das** · 03-09-2019, 10:59 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Ramhonda View Post

Thanks for the suggestion. Took the vehicle to a nearby mechanic shop and he just did the same. The sound is not there anymore. However, when I drove to work this morning, felt the pickup was sluggish and the bike wasn't climbing stuck @ around 78kmph in highway with a pillon. Usually I never noticed this sluggishness at all until day. Is it possible they mesed up around with adjusting anything to do with pickup? How do I correct it and what do I check? Please advise as I am pretty novice when it comes to bikes, just trying to learn.

Rotate the rear wheel on main stand to see if it is free. If it is not then loosen the brake adjusting nut to make it free. Also see whether the chain is over-tight. If so, adjust it. Even if these measures do not work try interchanging the position of the brake shoes if possible and refit the whole wheel-brake shoes assembly carefully.

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